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southie said:
It will sell out eventually. But, I'm sure some fans will have to choose between attending Super Bowl pre-parties and the game.

Is the Texas @ South Carolina game sold out yet? Wasn't noted in that tweet above.
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I just checked; there are still a few general admission upper deck baseline seats. There are a few resale tickets. It will probably be the next game to sell out.
 
I wonder if Dawn is trying to move towards positionless basketball. Any insights? I vaguely remember Coach making an off-hand comment about moving in that direction right before the freshies came on campus. I'm just getting caught up on recruiting and noticed that we seem to be targeting long-armed, athletic 6'+ wings that can shoot from anywhere on the court ... Ayla McDowell, Agot Makeer, and Kaelyn Carroll seem to be our targets. If we get all three, in a couple of years all but the PG could be 6'2" or taller. It makes me feel like coach wants to move towards a more athletic version of Oregon State from this prior year...kind of like a hybrid between Maryland and Oregon State.
 
GamecockFam said:
I wonder if Dawn is trying to move towards positionless basketball. Any insights? I vaguely remember Coach making an off-hand comment about moving in that direction right before the freshies came on campus. I'm just getting caught up on recruiting and noticed that we seem to be targeting long-armed, athletic 6'+ wings that can shoot from anywhere on the court ... Ayla McDowell, Agot Makeer, and Kaelyn Carroll seem to be our targets. If we get all three, in a couple of years all but the PG could be 6'2" or taller. It makes me feel like coach wants to move towards a more athletic version of Oregon State from this prior year...kind of like a hybrid between Maryland and Oregon State.
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If ain't broke, don't fix it! When you are one of the programs who is landing true Centers, you don't have to play positionless basketball, IMO. Getting physical and athletic players who can rebound is important, and Dawn has no problem signing them.

As for Oregon State, I didn't watch too much of them last season, but they seemed to have a lot of size with Beers in the post; not sure she floated to the perimeter, but I could be wrong.
 
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GamecockFam said:
I wonder if Dawn is trying to move towards positionless basketball. Any insights? I vaguely remember Coach making an off-hand comment about moving in that direction right before the freshies came on campus. I'm just getting caught up on recruiting and noticed that we seem to be targeting long-armed, athletic 6'+ wings that can shoot from anywhere on the court ... Ayla McDowell, Agot Makeer, and Kaelyn Carroll seem to be our targets. If we get all three, in a couple of years all but the PG could be 6'2" or taller. It makes me feel like coach wants to move towards a more athletic version of Oregon State from this prior year...kind of like a hybrid between Maryland and Oregon State.
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In a sense yes, but not really. Positional was basketball can be a good offensive theory but not so hot a defense. Dawn will never abandon the best defenses. The will always keep a big, strong paint defender and an another big but the wing is transitioning to a Wguard from Wforward.
 
visitingcock said:
Beat Clayton State by about 80. Time for real basketball. One Week!

www.greenvilleonline.com

South Carolina women's basketball vs Clayton State: Final score for exhibition game

South Carolina women's basketball beat Clayton State in an exhibition game on Monday at Colonial Life Arena.
www.greenvilleonline.com
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Awesome! I just was coming here to see if anyone went to the game or had news to spread about the performance. Sounds like another stellar game from Edwards. Also Tac with 13 points and 7 boards in 13 minutes is promising. I assume Clayton State didn't have anyone to match her size, so her numbers shouldn't be mythologized, but I think it shows that she will have a role on this team and may be a competent replacement for Cardoso sooner rather than later.
 
Edwards rocked again tonight in second exhibition, 20/12. Fulwiley with 24. Final score was was something like 126-45
 
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I’d rather watch us scrimmage the high liners any day. I know everybody wallops their D-2 opponents but 80 points is embarrassing
 
GamecockFam said:
Awesome! I just was coming here to see if anyone went to the game or had news to spread about the performance. Sounds like another stellar game from Edwards. Also Tac with 13 points and 7 boards in 13 minutes is promising. I assume Clayton State didn't have anyone to match her size, so her numbers shouldn't be mythologized, but I think it shows that she will have a role on this team and may be a competent replacement for Cardoso sooner rather than later.
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Clayton had no match for anyone size wise. I realized that early in the first when Sania found herself defensively switched on a guard on the perimeter while PaoPao moved down in the paint and bodied up their post and they were the same height.
 
For anyone there how did Chloe look or how much did she play? I really think she will be huge this year.
 
mikeboss550 said:
For anyone there how did Chloe look or how much did she play? I really think she will be huge this year.
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She was fine. Nothing too amazing.

What stood out to me was again how good an athlete Joyce Edwards is and what good hands she has to make it all look so easy.

I'd say Tac too seems to have good hands an a natural presence vs this level of competition.

The backcourt is scuffling a bit aside from Pao.

Nothing too bad but nobody really at their best at the moment. Shooting is a little off. Missing some open looks.
 
Tessa Johnson again got a lot of minutes as the primary ball handler suggesting she might be the third PG behind Pao and Raven.

Another game with extensive minutes for big lineups, or at least lineups featuring what I'd consider a forward playing wing. Edwards, Kitts, certainly and maybe a little bit of Dauda in this one.

Edwards just does everything so easily and catches and finishes in a continuous motion. She'll hit double figure most games just doing that and nothing more.
 
GamecockFam said:
I wonder if Dawn is trying to move towards positionless basketball. Any insights? I vaguely remember Coach making an off-hand comment about moving in that direction right before the freshies came on campus. I'm just getting caught up on recruiting and noticed that we seem to be targeting long-armed, athletic 6'+ wings that can shoot from anywhere on the court ... Ayla McDowell, Agot Makeer, and Kaelyn Carroll seem to be our targets. If we get all three, in a couple of years all but the PG could be 6'2" or taller. It makes me feel like coach wants to move towards a more athletic version of Oregon State from this prior year...kind of like a hybrid between Maryland and Oregon State.
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Having players that can shoot the rock from anywhere has really worked for SC lately. Combining Dawn’s defensive mindset with players that you don’t have to teach how to shoot and you see the success we’ve had the last 3-4 years, especially last year.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve loved some of our teams from the Wilson years and earlier, but if they’ve always had an Achilles heel then it was shooting. You can’t really say that anymore. And I don’t think Dawn is trying to go back to that when you look at how she’s recruiting. 2/3 from McDowell, Carroll and Makeer would be a VERY solid offensive boost to the team. I really think McDowell and Carroll are underrated.
 
mikeboss550 said:
For anyone there how did Chloe look or how much did she play? I really think she will be huge this year.
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Chloe only played 15 minutes as did most of the starters except Hall. I think Hall played extra minutes because her shooting was off. Dawn probably wanted her to work through that.

20 Sania Feagin 18:31 4-7 0-0 0-0 4 5 9 1 0 8 2 1 0 0 2 49 21
Chloe Kitts 15:59 4-6 0-1 0-0 0 3 3 1 1 8 1 0 0 0 0 44 0
Te-Hina Paopao 15:11 4-7 3-6 2-3 1 3 4 1 2 13 5 0 3 0 1 40 23
Bree Hall 25:28 3-12 0-7 0-0 2 1 3 1 0 6 5 0 4 1 0 55 25
Raven Johnson 16:13 4-6 1-2 0-0 3 0 3 1 0 9 3 1 3 0 0 36 8
Joyce Edwards 25:48 8-11 0-0 4-5 5 6 11 1 3 20 6 1 2 3 0 46 12
MiLaysia Fulwiley 24:49 10-18 4-7 0-2 0 2 2 0 2 24 3 1 7 3 0 46 5
Tessa Johnson 25:21 6-13 3-9 0-0 2 3 5 0 0 15 4 0 1 0 0 48 30
Maryam Dauda 19:58 2-3 0-0 6-6 1 7 8 0 3 10 1 1 0 1 0 30 15
Adhel Tac 12:42 3-5 0-0 7-10 4 3 7 1 6 13 0 1 0 2 0 26
Team 1 4 5 0 1 Totals 48-88 11-32 19-26 23 37 60 7 17 126 30 7 20 10 3 84 Technical Fouls::NONE Shooting By Period 1st FG% 11-23 47.8% 3PT% 2-8 25.0% FT% 4-4 100% 2nd FG% 13-22 59.1% 3PT% 4-11 36.4% FT% 4-8 50% 3rd FG% 12-23 52.2% 3PT% 2-8 25.0% FT% 6-8 75% 4
 
SCGamecock said:
Having players that can shoot the rock from anywhere has really worked for SC lately. Combining Dawn’s defensive mindset with players that you don’t have to teach how to shoot and you see the success we’ve had the last 3-4 years, especially last year.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve loved some of our teams from the Wilson years and earlier, but if they’ve always had an Achilles heel then it was shooting. You can’t really say that anymore. And I don’t think Dawn is trying to go back to that when you look at how she’s recruiting. 2/3 from McDowell, Carroll and Makeer would be a VERY solid offensive boost to the team. I really think McDowell and Carroll are underrated.
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I do not think Dawn's intention was ever to deliberately have offensive black holes in the lineup, but she wasn't going to compromise on defense and take one dimensional offensive players and sit back in zone. Multi-dimensional guards and forwards tended to pick programs that had already won titles.

Once SCar got over the hump, the black holes started lightening up.

At the time, detractors liked to pretend that it is the coaches who create these players, but the reality is they are recruited.

Coaches can develop them to a greater or lesser degree but the stars largely create themselves.
 
If you look at WBB, defense and rebounding are the essential pieces.

You can get to a championship level with them and then you can recruit better offensively with an existing culture for defense.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
If you look at WBB, defense and rebounding are the essential pieces.

You can get to a championship level with them and then you can recruit better offensively with an existing culture for defense.
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I agree 100%! Dawn always seems to seek out traits that give someone a natural defensive advantage (elite athleticism, tall, long arms, etc.) over everything else and then let them grow their skills over the years in her system.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
If you look at WBB, defense and rebounding are the essential pieces.

You can get to a championship level with them and then you can recruit better offensively with an existing culture for defense.
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Tessa Johnson is a great example of this.

5 years earlier and a player like her goes to another school IMO. Offensively minded players like her that are athletic and good defenders are highly coveted. I'm not sure a lot of us thought of Tessa as a defender when she arrived. And her size caught a lot of people off guard too.
 
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