USA U19 Beat Spain 75-51

[CocoHusky]

Coco...I think Huskies Rule is 100% accurate. I'm not saying she isn't very good.

Huskies rule was 100% right that the coach could/should have tried something different. But the coach didn't. You can't have it both ways. If Salvadores puts up great numbers you attribute that to bad coaching on the part of the US. When she puts up bad numbers you imply that is more like who she really is. How is that calling her a good player? Pump the brakes on her elevation to Stewie MoJeff status-JPM will be coaching her.

 

[triaddukefan]

Coco...I think Huskies Rule is 100% accurate. Before torching USA for 40 points, Salvadores had averaged 16.5 pts per game in the prior 6 games. She is good, but also a volume shooter. She took 115 shots that tournament while the next highest player on Spain took 68. The USA coach did nothing to try and hold Salvadores down. No full court pressure, no double, no box and 1... She had 40 pts and the rest of the team had 35 TOTAL. I'm sure Dawn Staley knew to plan a better defense.

Triad...before you elevate her to Stewie/MoJeff status, keep in mind she shot under 50% for that tournament, only 56% from the free throw line and had more turnovers (30) than assists (25). She averaged 31 minutes per game and played 85 minutes against powerhouses Egypt, Italy and South Korea who finished a combined 1-8 in the tournament. Spain won those games by a combined 94 points.

I'm not saying she isn't very good. But prior to the 1-10 against USA, she shot 1-11 against Australia. That's 2-21 in two games...somebody with pimples was covering her... The first game she was a more than respectable 7-18. Overall, so far she has 7 assists and 6 turnovers, which is an improvement on the U-17 tournament. Duke can be excited about her arrival in Durham, just don't over do it & pull a muscle cheering...

Overdo what? I merely was stating/implying that she will arrive in the US with experience not usually seen by a typical 17 year old. A poster made some comment about not facing the 15-17 year old's that she faced in last years U-17 tournament.... I stated that she has was a starter in a professional league this past season... so facing college kids isnt anything that should faze her.

Wait, Tria did that ? You may are confusing us with Tennessee fans

I had to reread my post several times to see where I made that kind of statement.......

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Ok, thanks. Clearly A'ja Wilson is ahead of her in terms of development.

Maybe. Don't forget, Wilson is two classes ahead.

 

[DavidinNaples]

Huskies rule was 100% right that the coach could/should have tried something different. But the coach didn't. You can't have it both ways. If Salvadores puts up great numbers you attribute that to bad coaching on the part of the US. When she puts up bad numbers you imply that is more like who she really is. How is that calling her a good player? Pump the brakes on her elevation to Stewie MoJeff status-JPM will be coaching her.

I'm saying she is a good player, but a high volume, streaky shooter. She can score 40 one night & go 2-21 in two other games. Bad coaching didn't put the ball in the basket, Salvadores did. We agree bad coaching didn't try something to slow her down. Not sure how that is trying to have it both ways. Time will tell how good she will be at Duke. And you're right about JPM coaching her.

 

[DobbsRover2]

So AS in the first five games for Spain in the 2014 U-17 was shooting at 52% with a lightish 3-8 total from 3-pt range, while averaging 14.6 shots per game and scoring 17.6 ppg. She then has the poor game against Czechoslavakia in the sixth match when she shot 3-13, and she entered the USA game having gone 3-9 from the perimeter in 6 games. Possibly the CZE game had too big an impact on how Phillips viewed AS, because the 16-29 overall and 5-7 on 3s for 40 points performance against the USA must have been a big jolt to expectations, though you always have to be prepared to react to a player suddenly getting hot. AS also unquestionably has some criminal tendencies as she chalked up 3.7 steals per game in the tournament and had 4 against the USA and even had 6 in her poor game against CZE.

 

[UConnCat]

Like Cox, Stewart and Wilson played for the U19 team as rising high school seniors.

In 2011, a 16-year-old Stewart led USA in scoring (11.2 ppg) and rebounds/game (7.3).

In 2013, 16-year-old Wilson was 3rd in scoring (10.9 ppg, behind Stewart and Tuck) and first in rebounds/game (7.9).

I think it's fair to say that Cox's game is not quite as developed as Stewart's and Wilson's at a comparable age. I'm looking forward to watching her play.

 

[Boreifs]

Like Cox, Stewart and Wilson played for the U19 team as rising high school seniors.

In 2011, a 16-year-old Stewart led USA in scoring (11.2 ppg) and rebounds/game (7.3).

In 2013, 16-year-old Wilson was 3rd in scoring (10.9 ppg, behind Stewart and Tuck) and first in rebounds/game (7.9).

I think it's fair to say that Cox's game is not quite as developed as Stewart's and Wilson's at a comparable age. I'm looking forward to watching her play.

It would also be fair to say that Cox has more competition for minutes on this squad than either Stewart or Wilson had at a comparable age. Let's not forget that Stewart hardly played at the Worlds last year with the National team, and when she did she was singularly unimpressive. Any performance on all-star teams needs to be viewed with a different set of factors in play.

 

[triaddukefan]

It would also be fair to say that Cox has more competition for minutes on this squad than either Stewart or Wilson had at a comparable age. Let's not forget that Stewart hardly played at the Worlds last year with the National team, and when she did she was singularly unimpressive. Any performance on all-star teams needs to be viewed with a different set of factors in play.

I just looked at the 2013 roster to compare.... and you are absolutely right about Cox

 

[UConnCat]

It would also be fair to say that Cox has more competition for minutes on this squad than either Stewart or Wilson had at a comparable age. Let's not forget that Stewart hardly played at the Worlds last year with the National team, and when she did she was singularly unimpressive. Any performance on all-star teams needs to be viewed with a different set of factors in play.

I don't necessarily agree with your first point. Regardless, saying that Cox's game -- which I like a lot -- is not quite as developed or polished as Stewart's or Wilson's were at the same age is hardly a slight.

Comparing a rising high school senior playing for the U-19 team with a rising college junior playing for the Senior National team is apples and oranges, particularly when talking about post players.

 

[triaddukefan]

Ahhhh.... I got confused by the 2013 roster ... I was thinking that Tuck, Stewart, Jones, Jefferson were incoming college freshman.... not rising college sophomores

 

[Bonpland]

I can't pretend to know a great deal about Salvadores, I've watched her twice and noticed the box scores, but my gut tells me she's going to help Duke alot. As others have said it's hard to know with European players just how well that they will adjust to living and playing here, but I have a good feeling about her becoming a star. Of course the intuition of an aging fan is not going to help Triad get his team to the Final Four.

 

[Huskies Rule]

Interesting tourney. Collier and Dangerfield acquitted themselves splendidly. Anyone know why Cox had such poor numbers? Sure she's human, but she only played 3 minutes in 1 game. was she injured?

Maybe Staley heard she is coming to UConn and got really pissed.