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Update on Jana, Ice, and Morgan

A couple of weeks ago, there was a video on twitter of Chloe kitts going through a shooting drill. And as far as I know; she has already been ruled out for the season.

When I saw that video is when I gave up on Morgan returning for this season.
 
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Stagnant said:
A couple of weeks ago, there was a video on twitter of Chloe kitts going through a shooting drill. And as far as I know; she has already been ruled out for the season.

When I saw that video is when I gave up on Morgan returning for this season.
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Kitts tore her ACL three months ago; no way was she ever going to be ready for this season.

Much as I'd love to see Morgan and Ice ready soon, I'm of the opinion that neither should blow a year of eligibility for just the later part of a season. I hope Jana is ready soon, but also hope that she's absolutely 100 % when she comes back.
 
BRS24 said:
If my math is correct, Ice can use 2026-27 as a redshirt year, as she did not play in 22-23, and this year is only her 4th season with the team.
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But either way this year is burned.
 
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This is always so tough. We know players on UConn who have come back from injury and been incredible, Paige & Azzi in recent history, though IMO it took Azzi over a year to regain full form.

On the other hand, I'm still hoping to see the old Ducharme and Patterson on the floor.
 
BRS24 said:
Don't hurt the messenger ...

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Bummer about Ice and Morgan. I, too, believe Morgan should red- shirt soon and that Ice files an appeal. Jana came back from the break with a new attitude and an improved game. I hope she is completely cleared soon so she can return to hitting her elbow jumpers and running the floor like a boss.
 
Vowelguy said:
My mistake! She only played in 2 games. Thought she had played more. She could apply for a medical redshirt.
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And don't forget, she still has the redshirt from her frosh season in 22-23, when she didn't play at all.
 
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Morgan's ankle must have really been messed up. Seems like shes been out forever.
 
Thanks for the update. A few thoughts...

Still not sure what is wrong with Ice - knee inflammation seems like a by-product of the injury, not the root cause. But we will likely never know. Also, very glad they both can redshirt. TBH, it's mid-January. Even if they are ready to come back, keep them sidelined and save a year of eligibility.
 
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While I'm so sorry to hear that it's unlikely that Ice or Morgan will play this season, I'm encouraged by the possibility of them both being able to redshirt and overjoyed that Jana's return seems imminent (I think there are times she'll be essential during March Madness).
 
This means we're back to the same sort of post lineup as last season: Jana and Serah (like Ice and Jana) with Sarah being the real presence in the post for stretches. It had looked as if Geno would finally have had serious post depth this season. But that seems no longer to be possible.

The main difference is that Sarah will have Blanca to carry some of the load when Geno sits Serah and Jana down. Blanca will have to fill Paige's role, the all-purpose player who could play 1-4 and fill up the scoreboard -- she's not quite the scorer or leader Paige was, the bucket-getter, but she's a lot bigger and stronger. Sarah will take over the leadership role, and the burden will be reduced by having Blanca next to her.
 
EricSD said:
Thanks for the update. A few thoughts...

Still not sure what is wrong with Ice - knee inflammation seems like a by-product of the injury, not the root cause. But we will likely never know. Also, very glad they both can redshirt. TBH, it's mid-January. Even if they are ready to come back, keep them sidelined and save a year of eligibility.
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Hasn't it been determined that Ice can not redshirt this season? But it's semantics because I believe she still has a year of eligibility to use next season.
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
According to UConn WBB Weekly BOTH Ice and Morgan can claim a red-shirt year if they go the rest of the schedule without playing!
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I'm not clear on what this reported "redshirting ability" of Brady is supposed to mean. Brady definitely has eligibility to play next season, regardless of whether she plays any more this season or not, but that has nothing to do with an ability to medical redshirt this season because she has no redshirt seasons left, medical or otherwise. Let me clarify by paraphrasing various NCAA bylaws.

Rule 1: Players get 4 seasons of eligibility.

Rule 2: Players have 5 calendar years to use up their 4 seasons of eligibility (the "5-year window").

Rule 3: A player can take off one entire season from team play ("redshirt") for any reason, such as a medical reason, or no reason at all, and still get 4 seasons of play because she has the 5-year window. Non-medical redshirts are very common in football but rare in basketball.

Rule 4: If a player plays one femtosecond in a game, she has used (burned) one entire season of eligibility.

Rule 5: However, a player who plays in some games and then suffers a documented season-ending injury or illness won't burn a season of eligibility if: (i) she plays only in games in the first half of the regular season, and (ii) she doesn't play in more than 30% of the regular season games. UConn's regular season is 31 games. This is colloquially called a "medical hardship year" or, collquially, a "medical redshirt."

Important to note: Rule 2 still applies to Rule 3 and Rule 5 redshirting. Meaning: the total of playing seasons + redshirt seasons cannot exceed the 5-year window.

Brady took off the entire 2022-23 season. This happened to be for medical reasons, but could have been for any reason. This was a redshirt year, and it counts toward her 5-year window.

She's played in three seasons 2023-24, 2024-25 and 2025-26 (this season: 23 minutes).

In sum, Brady has already had a redshirt year (2022-23) plus three playing seasons. Thus, she has one playing season of eligibility left in the 5-year window—next season. This is so no matter what she does in the remainder of this season, play or not play. However, she cannot get any additional playing seasons after that because her 5-year window will close after next season. In other words, Brady can't get a second redshirt year for her early season injury this year because that would be giving her a 6-year window.

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Some players have gotten a sixth year (e.g., Jamie Carey, Ali Patberg) by petitioning the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement on the basis of some extraordinary medical or other hardship ground. But it's very rare.

Simple, huh? This all summarizes less than one page out of the 429 pages of the 2025-26 NCAA DI Manual.
 
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Gael said:
I'm not clear on what this reported "redshirting ability" of Brady is supposed to mean. Brady definitely has eligibility to play next season, regardless of whether she plays any more this season or not, but that has nothing to do with an ability to medical redshirt this season because she has no redshirt seasons left, medical or otherwise. Let me clarify by paraphrasing various NCAA bylaws.

Rule 1: Players get 4 seasons of eligibility.

Rule 2: Players have 5 calendar years to use up their 4 seasons of eligibility (the "5-year window").

Rule 3: A player can take off one entire season from team play ("redshirt") for any reason, such as a medical reason, or no reason at all, and still get 4 seasons of play because she has the 5-year window. Non-medical redshirts are very common in football but rare in basketball.

Rule 4: If a player plays one femtosecond in a game, she has used (burned) one entire season of eligibility.

Rule 5: However, a player who plays in some games and then suffers a documented season-ending injury or illness won't burn a season of eligibility if: (i) she plays only in games in the first half of the regular season, and (ii) she doesn't play in more than 30% of the regular season games. UConn's regular season is 31 games. This is colloquially called a "medical hardship year" or, collquially, a "medical redshirt."

Important to note: Rule 2 still applies to Rule 3 and Rule 5 redshirting. Meaning: the total of playing seasons + redshirt seasons cannot exceed the 5-year window.

Brady took off the entire 2022-23 season. This happened to be for medical reasons, but could have been for any reason. This was a redshirt year, and it counts toward her 5-year window.

She's played in three seasons 2023-24, 2024-25 and 2025-26 (this season: 23 minutes).

In sum, Brady has already had a redshirt year (2022-23) plus three playing seasons. Thus, she has one playing season of eligibility left in the 5-year window—next season. This is so no matter what she does in the remainder of this season, play or not play. However, she cannot get any additional playing seasons after that because her 5-year window will close after next season. In other words, Brady can't get a second redshirt year for her early season injury this year because that would be giving her a 6-year window.

-- EXCEPT --

Some players have gotten a sixth year (e.g., Jamie Carey, Ali Patberg) by petitioning the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement on the basis of some extraordinary medical or other hardship ground. But it's very rare.

Simple, huh? This all summarizes less than one page out of the 429 pages of the 2025-26 NCAA DI Manual.
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Gael- - - This is where I got the info from UConn WBB Weekly!

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"Brady missed her entire true freshman campaign in 2022-23 with a dislocated patella in her right knee — the same knee that’s giving her trouble now. Like Cheli, Brady should qualify for a medical redshirt if she doesn’t return this season."

I'm just repeating what I read!​
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Maybe the UCONN WBB Weekly merely meant that Ice can still come back next season, and referred to this loosely as a redshirt. If she returns for a 5th season, the justification of it will be the redshirt rule, whichever injury it's based on.
 
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RSHERMVIKES said:
Gael- - - This is where I got the info from UConn WBB Weekly!

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"Brady missed her entire true freshman campaign in 2022-23 with a dislocated patella in her right knee — the same knee that’s giving her trouble now. Like Cheli, Brady should qualify for a medical redshirt if she doesn’t return this season."

I'm just repeating what I read!

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Daniel Connolly, who wrote this, seems to be confused (either substantively or terminologically) about Brady's redshirting and eligibility, primarily because of the dependent clause I've bolded. (Similarly, Maggie Vanoni was outright wrong in what she wrote on January 8 about Malou-Mamel's ability to redshirt this season.)

Let me try to explain the rules another way, focusing on the 5-year window.

Brady is already eligible for a redshirt for the season she sat out during her first calendar year. Sure, if she suffered a medically documented, season-ending injury in UConn's first 10 games of this season, she could keep sitting out and put in a claim for a medical redshirt for this season, which is her fourth calendar year.

The NCAA would say: Okay, Ice, the yearly tally in your 5-year window is:

Year 1: redshirt
Year 2: play
Year 3: play
Year 4: redshirt
Year 5: eligible to play

After that, it's bye-bye, Ice. Your 5-year window is closed.

However, the Year 5 eligibility entry remains exactly the same if Year 4 of the tally says play instead of redshirt. And the 5-year window closes at the same time no matter whether Year 4 is play or redshirt. Ice's eligibility to play in Year 5 is not affected by whether she plays again in (this) Year 4 or not. She's entitled to play 4 seasons within 5 calendar years.

If Daniel Connolly is suggesting that Ice must sit out the rest of this season to play next season, he is wrong. At a minimum, he is confusing readers.
 
Gael said:
Some players have gotten a sixth year (e.g., Jamie Carey, Ali Patberg) by petitioning the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement on the basis of some extraordinary medical or other hardship ground. But it's very rare.
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Note that players getting a 6th year has become more common than it was five or ten years ago. That is especially true when the player is asking for a 6th year due to losing two seasons due to serious injuries. Less likely to be granted if one of the lost seasons was due to a player voluntarily sitting out a year (a true redshirt) for developmental purposes. Or, less likely these days, if a player had to sit a year due to transfer rules.
 
Gael said:
Daniel Connolly, who wrote this, seems to be confused (either substantively or terminologically) about Brady's redshirting and eligibility, primarily because of the dependent clause I've bolded. (Similarly, Maggie Vanoni was outright wrong in what she wrote on January 8 about Malou-Mamel's ability to redshirt this season.)

Let me try to explain the rules another way, focusing on the 5-year window.

Brady is already eligible for a redshirt for the season she sat out during her first calendar year. Sure, if she suffered a medically documented, season-ending injury in UConn's first 10 games of this season, she could keep sitting out and put in a claim for a medical redshirt for this season, which is her fourth calendar year.

The NCAA would say: Okay, Ice, the yearly tally in your 5-year window is:

Year 1: redshirt
Year 2: play
Year 3: play
Year 4: redshirt
Year 5: eligible to play

After that, it's bye-bye, Ice. Your 5-year window is closed.

However, the Year 5 eligibility entry remains exactly the same if Year 4 of the tally says play instead of redshirt. And the 5-year window closes at the same time no matter whether Year 4 is play or redshirt. Ice's eligibility to play in Year 5 is not affected by whether she plays again in (this) Year 4 or not. She's entitled to play 4 seasons within 5 calendar years.

If Daniel Connolly is suggesting that Ice must sit out the rest of this season to play next season, he is wrong. At a minimum, he is confusing readers.
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There are waivers. She is not the first person to get injured twice.
 
stamfordhusky said:
Note that players getting a 6th year has become more common than it was five or ten years ago. That is especially true when the player is asking for a 6th year due to losing two seasons due to serious injuries. Less likely to be granted if one of the lost seasons was due to a player voluntarily sitting out a year (a true redshirt) for developmental purposes. Or, less likely these days, if a player had to sit a year due to transfer rules.
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I was under the impression that the reason why it has been more common as of the past five years (not ten) was due to the NCAA incorporating the COVID rule.

IE, if you were a player in the calendar year of 2020, you were allowed to not play that season and not lose a year of eligibility as a result of it. Somehow this then morphed to where the players simply received an extra year of eligibility, regardless of whether they played the 2020 season or not. Example, Bueckers had a choice, she could have forgone the WNBA and still be on the UConn roster today.

It is very confusing however, as it also has select conferences saying ’no, we have our own rules.’ The Ivy Conference as an example. As you recall, Chen transferred to UConn and was able to play in the Big East and NCAA, however she did not have any eligibility left allowing her to stay at Princeton.
 
So our “deep” roster is now 12 since Morgan, Ice and Gandy won’t see court time for rest of the season. Not as deep as originally thought.
 
According to the BE Availability Report, Jana is out for tonight's game against Villanova. And of course, so are Ice and Morgan.
Hopefully Jana will be available against the Golden Domers on Monday.
 
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