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Can you explain Indiana?

BTW, not arguing in favor of Vandy though they did beat Iowa State.
At least looking at Massey, the SOS seems to be the big disparity. Indiana #8 and Vandy #82. I don't think Indiana hugely challenged themselves in the non-conference but it was better. LSU might be a better head-scratcher of a comparison with a SOS of #64 and really just one "Top 25" win over VT, although they do have better conference wins at this point.
 

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Can you explain Indiana?

BTW, not arguing in favor of Vandy though they did beat Iowa State.
Anchoring bias is a part of it. Indiana started at #9; Vandy wasn't receiving votes. Compared to their starting points, Indiana is down and Vandy, even after losing to Mizzou, is still up.

Vandy's win over ISU has appreciated in just the past week, but the reality of the polls is that voters rarely if ever retroactively upgrade a team due to a recently improved early-season opponent.

While Indiana doesn't have truly high-quality wins, they've avoided losing to lower-ranked and unranked teams. They are still #9 in Massey and #13 in NET, for whatever that's worth (Vandy is #42/48).
 
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The ranking seems fair. I figured that we would be either #8 or #9, anything higher would have been impressive.
 
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Anchoring bias is a part of it. Indiana started at #9; Vandy wasn't receiving votes. Compared to their starting points, Indiana is down and Vandy, even after losing to Mizzou, is still up.

Vandy's win over ISU has appreciated in just the past week, but the reality of the polls is that voters rarely if ever retroactively upgrade a team due to a recently improved early-season opponent.

While Indiana doesn't have truly high-quality wins, they've avoided losing to lower-ranked and unranked teams. They are still #9 in Massey and #13 in NET, for whatever that's worth (Vandy is #42/48).
IU has a solid, experienced club. They lack a dead-eye outside shooter, and struggle when Parrish and Scalia aren’t hitting 3s. They need to because the only way to stop Mac Holmes is with the double. She’s extremely skilled. Because they rely on such inside-outside balance, they can be vulnerable to runs, and both Stanford and Iowa put it to them. But IU will be the likely #2 out of the Big Ten, which has solid competition. If you’ve not watched them, check them out on the Big Ten network - they are well-coached and play well together.
 

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IU has a solid, experienced club. They lack a dead-eye outside shooter, and struggle when Parrish and Scalia aren’t hitting 3s. They need to because the only way to stop Mac Holmes is with the double. She’s extremely skilled. Because they rely on such inside-outside balance, they can be vulnerable to runs, and both Stanford and Iowa put it to them. But IU will be the likely #2 out of the Big Ten, which has solid competition. If you’ve not watched them, check them out on the Big Ten network - they are well-coached and play well together.

You think Indiana is better than Ohio State?
 
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Would anyone care to share their thoughts as to why Vandy aren't ranked? I know they (very surprisingly) lost last night, but they had a pretty good run till now. Is it because of the quality of the teams they played till now?
They seem to have followed the LSU scheduling model not the UConn model.
 
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Regardless of bracketology predictions, I can’t imagine the ncaa will select a potential SC-UConn matchup before the final 4. If we are not a 1 seed, I pray we are the 2 seed to Iowa’s 1. I don’t see such a game being close.
 
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This ranking seems about right. Actually, I didn't expect them to move 4 spots. Would have been happy with two so no complaints from me.
 

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So, UConn beat Marquette and Creighton, both ranked and lost a poll spot. This week beat Providence and St Johns and GT and jumped 4?
In both cases the movement was caused by significant wins and losses by other teams, not UConn. Rankings are inherently relative.

Virginia Tech beat NC State and jumped a few spots, then lost to Florida State and dropped right back. Add in the losses by Baylor, LSU and Texas and voilà UConn is in the top 10 again
 

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Rats! Still a three-seed at least by ranking. I think the selection committee will look at UConn's SOS, Massey, and RPI and they will move UConn up to at least a 2 seed. Of course, UConn could put all the doubters to rest by knocking off ND and South Carolina while running the table in the Big East.
 

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Rats! Still a three-seed at least by ranking. I think the selection committee will look at UConn's SOS, Massey, and RPI and they will move UConn up to at least a 2 seed. Of course, UConn could put all the doubters to rest by knocking off ND and South Carolina while running the table in the Big East.
Ranking isn’t used for seeding
 

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We're morphing into a two seed, which is where we should probably be this year. Going to be hard to get higher
 
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Rats! Still a three-seed at least by ranking. I think the selection committee will look at UConn's SOS, Massey, and RPI and they will move UConn up to at least a 2 seed. Of course, UConn could put all the doubters to rest by knocking off ND and South Carolina while running the table in the Big East.
I think we’ll see half of that perhaps, SC looks to be a bridge too far. Not impossible of course, but it’s going to require a lot of things to happen! We’re going to have to play our best game, while SC is going to have to underperform somehow. That could be either as a result of a superhuman effort by us or a subpar performance by them. Most likely, it will require both!

To be honest, I am a bit ambivalent about winning this game because I think it extremely unlikely we could beat them twice in one year. Obviously, if that were the case, I’d rather win in the tournament! We, or someone, is/are going to have to beat them there in order to win #12.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to win the first one obviously, merely that if we only win one, I’d rather win the second one. However, if we win this upcoming game then there is simply no other alternative, we’ll just have to smoke them twice! (Me, whistling past the graveyard!:D) Of course, we do have Paige and Geno. That is a comforting thought!
 

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Another early morning here, and got me thinking about the AP poll - preseason rankings, IMHO complete misses (NCSU, CO, TN, among others), and how teams moved +/- before and now during conference play. Right now, conference play in ACC, Pac12, Big12, may move ranked teams a little in the AP, but as we've seen, not much.

Although I don't follow all the leagues, some teams/things that stand out:
  • Unranked - Syracuse, Vanderbilt,
  • Ranked - Utah, Iowa State
  • Significant movement (conf vs overall) - Villanova, G'town, Tenn, Oklahoma, TCU, Washington, Portland, S Clara
  • The ACC, Big Ten, and Mt W (somewhat), seem to be the most consistent b/w conference and overall standings.
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Rats! Still a three-seed at least by ranking. I think the selection committee will look at UConn's SOS, Massey, and RPI and they will move UConn up to at least a 2 seed. Of course, UConn could put all the doubters to rest by knocking off ND and South Carolina while running the table in the Big East.
We have been moved up to a 2 seed, in with UCLA in Portland. Have to change that.
 
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Another early morning here, and got me thinking about the AP poll - preseason rankings, IMHO complete misses (NCSU, CO, TN, among others), and how teams moved +/- before and now during conference play. Right now, conference play in ACC, Pac12, Big12, may move ranked teams a little in the AP, but as we've seen, not much.

Although I don't follow all the leagues, some teams/things that stand out:
  • Unranked - Syracuse, Vanderbilt,
  • Ranked - Utah, Iowa State
  • Significant movement (conf vs overall) - Villanova, G'town, Tenn, Oklahoma, TCU, Washington, Portland, S Clara
  • The ACC, Big Ten, and Mt W (somewhat), seem to be the most consistent b/w conference and overall standings.
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Why is UConn showing 6-1 in Conference? They haven’t lost in Conference, or am I reading something wrong here?
 

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Another early morning here, and got me thinking about the AP poll - preseason rankings, IMHO complete misses (NCSU, CO, TN, among others), and how teams moved +/- before and now during conference play. Right now, conference play in ACC, Pac12, Big12, may move ranked teams a little in the AP, but as we've seen, not much.

Although I don't follow all the leagues, some teams/things that stand out:
  • Unranked - Syracuse, Vanderbilt,
  • Ranked - Utah, Iowa State
  • Significant movement (conf vs overall) - Villanova, G'town, Tenn, Oklahoma, TCU, Washington, Portland, S Clara
  • The ACC, Big Ten, and Mt W (somewhat), seem to be the most consistent b/w conference and overall standings.
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Not to be picky, but isn't Iowa undefeated in conference play?
 

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Sorry folks. The records of w-l don't paste well into a spreadsheet, as it imports to a date, LOL. Looks like it did that with all the undefeated teams in conference - UConn, Iowa, SC, Louisville, etc. I was up a bit too early this am. Blankety blank blank blank.
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