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You can't possibly be more wrong. But, hell, that's never stopped you before. The "gateway" myth is just that, a myth, and your invocation of the "neighborhood crackhead" shows just how completely out of touch you are. But that's been known.

It's like labeling anyone that smokes pot a "druggie." You sound like someone out of Reefer Madness. I'm not going to turn this into some kind of high-achievement contest but I know plenty of people who are high achievers, high earners, well rounded lives who prefer marijuana to getting __-faced. I know exactly zero people whose marijuana use led them into a downward spiral of drug addiction.

If a loser decides to get high he's just a loser who gets high.

In a way, I'm glad you feel the way you do. It's in keeping with your persona on here: completely certain, rarely correct, always inadvertently hilarious.

The funny part is, if he really were who he acts like he is, Calhoun would've signed him on to run an anti-drug seminar for the team every year, thereby eliminating the possibility of any Huskies to have been stoners.
 
This thread turns the World upside down - true some alcoholics and druggies are successful people - always have been - as there are tobacco smokers that live beyond average life expectancy - but that doesn't make it wise or good for them.

This thread has not turned the world upside down. Most of it was good natured fun.

Have you injected the finger pointing scold routine to the Best Beer thread yet? You probably should just for consistency.
 
The funny part is, if he really were who he acts like he is, Calhoun would've signed him on to run an anti-drug seminar for the team every year, thereby eliminating the possibility of any Huskies to have been stoners.

Funny story - I was at Mayor Mikes when a fan confronted Calhoun on Dyson being stoned during a game - As I recall, Dyson was suspended within days.
 
So do you want your teenager to smoke pot?

No, but I'd prefer that to a teenager drinking, and neither of those things is relevant to whether or not a responsible, successful adult can use it recreationally without having a negative impact on their life.
 
So do you want your teenager to smoke pot?

I have two teenagers. One probably does and will continue to. One doesn't and probably never will. Both are great kids.

I tell both of them the same thing. I love them and want them to be healthy, happy and productive members of society. They will have to figure out that path for themselves since I can't live their lives for them. And they are both to a point where their peers have far more influence over them than I do.

Ostracizing them, punishing them or making a bigger deal out of it would be counter productive and possibly push them to more rebellious behavior.

The one that does was far more adversely effected by being bullied at a young age than by having a puff now. I talk to her matter of factly about the potential ramifications.

Being supportive of their strengths goes much farther than vilifying their weaknesses.

All of that said, I would intervene if I started to see really self destructive behavior.

I'm guessing your line would be much easier to cross.
 
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Funny story - I was at Mayor Mikes when a fan confronted Calhoun on Dyson being stoned during a game - As I recall, Dyson was suspended within days.

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It was actually a female - the same lady that gave JC a hard time for running up the score on Tom Moore - he told her "WTF" do u want me to do - aka we are so much better
He knows her so she can get away with it - she is Boston so he puts up with it
 
Of course we all love our kids.

My kids are easy to love. They are genuinely good kids.

I would prefer they don't smoke pot as teens. And the best way of preventing that would be to eliminate the black market by fully legalizing and selling over the counter to responsible adults of legal age, just like we do with alcohol.

The best way to squash the "gateway" effect would be to stop lumping MJ in with more harmful drugs.

I would be even less OK with my teens drinking. Would I ever hope they never in their adult lives responsibly get to enjoy a fine microbrew or glass of wine? No. I would hope they grow to have the strength of character to enjoy a libation or whatever brings them joy and balance it by fulfilling responsibilities and prospering.
 
It's like labeling anyone that smokes pot a "druggie." You sound like someone out of Reefer Madness.

Did you catch my post above where I mentioned that movie? If not, it's hilarious that Reefer Madness would be mentioned twice in this thread. It's perfect.
 
My kids are easy to love. They are genuinely good kids.

I would prefer they don't smoke pot as teens. And the best way of preventing that would be to eliminate the black market by fully legalizing and selling over the counter to responsible adults of legal age, just like we do with alcohol.

The best way to squash the "gateway" effect would be to stop lumping MJ in with more harmful drugs.

I would be even less OK with my teens drinking. Would I ever hope they never in their adult lives responsibly get to enjoy a fine microbrew or glass of wine? No. I would hope they grow to have the strength of character to enjoy a libation or whatever brings them joy and balance it by fulfilling responsibilities and prospering.
Here's the horrible thing about drug addiction and alcoholism: No one takes that first drink, toke, pill or hit thinking, "Yeah, I'm gonna become an addict! Alright!". Everyone thinks they're mature enough to handle it. However, some have a metabolic pre-disposition (family history is a good predictor) where the first time the alcohol or drug hits their bloodstream, their brain says, "Yes! This is what I've been missing all this time!". No one knows if they are one of these people until they start. For those that have addictive tendencies, from that point on, it's not about moral responsibility not to drink or drug, it's a daily struggle to fight those thoughts in the brain telling them, "I need that drink/drug!". I had a grandfather who was an alcoholic but fortunately I didn't inherit his problem. I can have a drink without the need to have a second or third and never had any desire to use drugs although a lot of my friends smoked weed in high school and college.
 
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Here's the horrible thing about drug addiction and alcoholism: No one takes that first drink, toke, pill or hit thinking, "Yeah, I'm gonna become an addict! Alright!". Everyone thinks they're mature enough to handle it. However, some have a metabolic pre-disposition (family history is a good predictor) where the first time the alcohol or drug hits their bloodstream, their brain says, "Yes! This is what I've been missing all this time!". No one knows if they are one of these people until they start. For those that have addictive tendencies, from that point on, it's not about moral responsibility not to drink or drug, it's a daily struggle to fight those thoughts in the brain telling them, "I need that drink/drug!". I had a grandfather who was an alcoholic but fortunately I didn't inherit his problem. I can have a drink without the need to have a second or third and never had any desire to use drugs although a lot of my friends smoked weed in high school and college.

Not here for a pissing match, but rarely does someone have a genetic predisposition to it without being aware of it. It's usually rife in one's family history, as others in your family tree also have that same anomaly, and are adversely 'affected' by it. At the end of the day, it is still that person's choice. Yes, the influence on their choice is very, very strong. The fact that many alcoholics are able to get clean, usually with a lot of help, is proof positive that it is ultimately a choice. It's something they need to manage, not unlike other ailments such as diabetes.

And on the larger topic at hand, just because a minority have a problem with it, shouldn't dictate the desires and abilities of the majority to enjoy life as they see fit. At the risk of sounding like a crank, that is one of the huge problems in modern society. Everything is over-dictated/regulated to the point of not being able to do anything.
 
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