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Chief00 said:
Go through life rationalizing - it's sadly a pretty non productive life
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I know guys who started off lying on message boards. It progressed to lying to their wives and kids. Pretty sad.
 
tdrink said:
That is the most illogical thing I've ever seen posted on the internet, since you have absolutely no idea what my level of productivity is.

Won't be able to respond to your next post since I will be at work for the next 9-10 hours.
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Reading this thread - seems like everyone's goal is to have their kid grow up to be a potheads.
Do I think pot hurts motivation? Yes, I have seen examples of that including two of the names some have mentioned.
 
Regardless of what he decides to do, Uncle Cliffy is a classic
Who in their right mind would have expected him to play so many seasons in the NBA? The same could be said about KO
Cliffy was so maligned as a freshman and sophomore but boy did he have some monster games.
I kidded earlier about the past players who may have had a rep to enjoy a few joints and unlike Billy Clinton, they definately inhaled (I know i shared a few puffs with some of them; hell if the freakin make believe President of the USA can admit to snorting coke....)
In many ways, I admire Cliff
 
Chief00 said:
Reading this thread - seems like everyone's goal is to have their kid grow up to be a potheads.
Do I think pot hurts motivation? Yes, I have seen examples of that including two of the names some have mentioned.
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Maybe some here have, but I can say that I've never personally known any serious pothead who were successful in life or career. The ones I've known/know just sleepwalk through life. I saw an interview recently where one of the smokers who invented the term '420' and owns a legal pot business said he stopped smoking years ago because he found it hindered success and he saw that the heavy smokers he knew had life issues they were trying to numb. They had bad careers and relationships either as a result of smoking or vice versa.
 
Cliff has always been a free spirit, but it could be worse hes got a plan, and its a business and he could make a lot of money from this job.
 
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boog204 said:
there's a mic drop moment...

I was at UConn from 98-02. It's fair to say from personal experience that many of our players played and succeeded in the pot match.
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The "pot match", hahaha. Can that be one of the go to phrases on here now?Considering the rest of us were usually baked while there, why should the players miss out on all the fun of the student body experience? If not mentioned, Phil Gamble was usually with Cliff so safe to say he was probably no stranger to the pot match.
 
UCweCONN said:
Maybe some here have, but I can say that I've never personally known any serious pothead who were successful in life or career. The ones I've known/know just sleepwalk through life. I saw an interview recently where one of the smokers who invented the term '420' and owns a legal pot business said he stopped smoking years ago because he found it hindered success and he saw that the heavy smokers he knew had life issues they were trying to numb. They had bad careers and relationships either as a result of smoking or vice versa.
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Can't paint everything with a broad brush
I know people who would smoke their fair share of pot and still become successful.
Now if you are considering someone who smokes sevearl times of day, I agree - same can be said of someone who drinks a lot.
I went to Tedeschi - Trucks at Simsbury last summer and could not believe the number of folks in their 60s talking about their grandkids and their jobs before the concert and when the lights went out, out came the pot. My daughter who works at the Hartford saw at least a dozen high level officers and their spouses/significant others puffing away and trying to be clandestine about it - she was shocked.
I was at the Dead and Company show at MSG this past fall and there were 3 couples behind me - two of the guys worked at a major bank in the corporate funding area and the other guy owned an investment firm in midtown. Being in the banking field myself, I struck up conversations with them. These guys and their spouses are good for $500K per year - easy. Again, when the lights went out the puffing among the 6 was continual and if I hadn't given it up years ago, i would have partaken - the invitation was there.
I attend many concerts a year and see these sights at virtually every one.
 
Scoe said:
Cliff has always been a free spirit, but it could be worse hes got a plan, and its a business and he could make a lot of money from this job.
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I have a great idea for Cliff. "Uncle Cliffy's Cookies". Like Famous Amos but containing weed and with a picture of Uncle Cliffy in rasta dreds and hat on the package.
 
Chief00 said:
Reading this thread - seems like everyone's goal is to have their kid grow up to be a potheads.
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That's the rhetoric of a failed drug warrior.
 
gtcam said:
Can't paint everything with a broad brush
I know people who would smoke their fair share of pot and still become successful.
Now if you are considering someone who smokes sevearl times of day, I agree - same can be said of someone who drinks a lot.
I went to Tedeschi - Trucks at Simsbury last summer and could not believe the number of folks in their 60s talking about their grandkids and their jobs before the concert and when the lights went out, out came the pot. My daughter who works at the Hartford saw at least a dozen high level officers and their spouses/significant others puffing away and trying to be clandestine about it - she was shocked.
I was at the Dead and Company show at MSG this past fall and there were 3 couples behind me - two of the guys worked at a major bank in the corporate funding area and the other guy owned an investment firm in midtown. Being in the banking field myself, I struck up conversations with them. These guys and their spouses are good for $500K per year - easy. Again, when the lights went out the puffing among the 6 was continual and if I hadn't given it up years ago, i would have partaken - the invitation was there.
I attend many concerts a year and see these sights at virtually every one.
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I attended Motley Crue's final concert tour and because there was traffic after, people decided to tailgate in the lot waiting for the traffic to clear. One group lit up pipes and chugged beers with no designated driver in sight and then proceeded to drive home. It would've been a good place for a police spot check. I hope they and everyone on the road made it home alive.
 
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Chief00 said:
Reading this thread - seems like everyone's goal is to have their kid grow up to be a potheads.
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CallMeBruce said:
Maybe if Cliff Robinson hadn't had his motivation destroyed by marijuana, he could have had a productive NBA career, instead of only playing 18 seasons and scoring nearly 20,000 points.
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Well, when he was with Portland, he was Sixth Man of the Year and a star for a while with the whole headband thing. Then....not so much. Maybe he used the headband to store his stash?
 
UCweCONN said:
Well, when he was with Portland, he was Sixth Man of the Year and a star for a while with the whole headband thing. Then....not so much. Maybe he used the headband to store his stash?
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Cliff's career arc follows almost exactly what you would expect, given his age. He was pretty good at first, hit his prime at 27 and was great for about 3 years, started declining in his 30s but was still quite productive for several years, and after 35 was a role player until he ultimately retired.
 
UCweCONN said:
Maybe some here have, but I can say that I've never personally known any serious pothead who were successful in life or career. The ones I've known/know just sleepwalk through life. I saw an interview recently where one of the smokers who invented the term '420' and owns a legal pot business said he stopped smoking years ago because he found it hindered success and he saw that the heavy smokers he knew had life issues they were trying to numb. They had bad careers and relationships either as a result of smoking or vice versa.
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We don't need to look any furthur (yes I know) than the person the threads about. I think I read his net worth is around 20 mil. But I will say yes if you are smoking, drinking, jerking off habitually it's gonna create issues. I'm pretty sure in was Gandhi who said "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."
 
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imno1 said:
We don't need to look any furthur (yes I know) than the person the threads about. I think I read his net worth is around 20 mil. But I will say yes if you are smoking, drinking, jerking off habitually it's gonna create issues. I'm pretty sure in was Gandhi who said "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."
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Yes. It was definitely Gandhi.
 
Chief00 said:
for doing one or the other. The argument that pot doesn't lead to other drugs - ask the neighborhood crackhead what drug he started on?
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Probably his mom drinking, smoking, or shooting when she was pregnant. Pretty good bet.

I'm also willing to bet that alcohol leads to a far greater number (raw and %) of alcoholics than marijuana as a gateway drug leads to narcotic addicts. Let's ban alcohol. Because that worked well in the past. And billions of people are able to use it responsibly.

But beware the pot match, y'all.
 
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UCweCONN said:
Maybe some here have, but I can say that I've never personally known any serious pothead who were successful in life or career. The ones I've known/know just sleepwalk through life
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Wow, I've known hundreds. You'd probably be shocked at how many professionals, including many you may work with, smoke on a regular basis. Some of the most successful and skilled surgeons I know smoke on the regular. They do it for stress relief.
 
intlzncster said:
Wow, I've known hundreds. You'd probably be shocked at how many professionals, including many you may work with, smoke on a regular basis. Some of the most successful and skilled surgeons I know smoke on the regular. They do it for stress relief.
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People are always surprised that so few districts drug test their teachers. And the reason is that, if they did, they wouldn't have any teachers.
 
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Chief00 said:
Reading this thread - seems like everyone's goal is to have their kid grow up to be a potheads.
Do I think pot hurts motivation? Yes, I have seen examples of that including two of the names some have mentioned.
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The most ridiculous aspect of your mini crusade here is that I never advocated for or against usage in any way. My comments were only directed at the failure and lack of perspective of your logic.

In fact, your logic is so flawed I am inclined to think you must be high on something. Probably self righteousness.
 
CallMeBruce said:
People are always surprised that so few districts drug test their teachers. And the reason is that, if they did, they wouldn't have any teachers.
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This gives me a chuckle, as I grew up the son of teachers on a new england prep school campus. When I got older and clued in, the world opened up a bit more as to what went on with the adults after class gets out.
 
intlzncster said:
This gives me a chuckle, as I grew up the son of teachers on a new england prep school campus. When I got older and clued in, the world opened up a bit more as to what went on with the adults after class gets out.
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This thread turns the World upside down - true some alcoholics and druggies are successful people - always have been - as there are tobacco smokers that live beyond average life expectancy - but that doesn't make it wise or good for them.
 
Chief00 said:
I know I am not going to convince anyone because you like the weed, I can't even convince some friends. Is alcoholism or drug dependency worse - roll the dice - but it's a sad rationalization for doing one or the other. The argument that pot doesn't lead to other drugs - ask the neighborhood crackhead what drug he started on?
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You can't possibly be more wrong. But, hell, that's never stopped you before. The "gateway" myth is just that, a myth, and your invocation of the "neighborhood crackhead" shows just how completely out of touch you are. But that's been known.

It's like labeling anyone that smokes pot a "druggie." You sound like someone out of Reefer Madness. I'm not going to turn this into some kind of high-achievement contest but I know plenty of people who are high achievers, high earners, well rounded lives who prefer marijuana to getting __-faced. I know exactly zero people whose marijuana use led them into a downward spiral of drug addiction.

If a loser decides to get high he's just a loser who gets high.

In a way, I'm glad you feel the way you do. It's in keeping with your persona on here: completely certain, rarely correct, always inadvertently hilarious.
 
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