UMass series 2018-2021

[J187Money]

Man you guys are brutal lol

If you are still broke by then I will cover your parking

 

[Hoophound]

If you are still broke by then I will cover your parking

I have a friend that lost everything due to a painkiller addiction he developed after a sports injury. I mean everything. He was literally homeless, lost his wife and kids and had no money. He finally agreed to rehab but felt he would be a loser for life when he got out.

Three years later he has a great job, beautiful new wife, new baby, new house and his kids from his first marriage are with him half the time. The ex wife is remarried and treats him very well because she knows it wasn't his intention to get hooked on a medicine.

I always told him things can change quickly, including your finances. Very few people get rich by accident. Those of us that create opportunity for ourselves are intending to do so. No one should think they will be in the same place 3 years from now. What would be the point of getting up in the morning?

It is very effective to write your goals and vision down every year and put it someplace you will see it daily. This guy has an easy goal. Save an extra $45 over the next 3 years.

 

[DrG]

Given UMass' possible lack of improvement in recruiting and on-field performance challenges, how's Whipple's support: strong, wavering, dubious at best? Good 1-AA and Division II coach a decade to 2 decades back, has the college game passed Whipple by similar to some other past successful college coaches?

All valid questions. I think the support for Whipple is solid, although not overwhelming because the jury is still out. The main problem is UMass came in late in the game, the former AD had pretty much checked out and was the wrong guy to lead the move up, and the Molnar hire was a disaster. Listen, I know it's going to be a difficult challenge, especially trying to survive as an independent for the foreseeable future. But the UMass administration remains committed to FBS football, and Bamford strikes me as a pretty dynamic guy. Some more wins would be good for starters. Obviously things can always change, but this scheduling agreement says to me that UConn thinks we'll still be around in a few years.

 

[huskysupporter]

I hate putting money in Robert Krafts pockets, but I will begrudgingly do so for these games. My loyalty to uconn football trumps my boycott of that .

 

[outlaw]

I hate putting money in Robert Krafts pockets, but I will begrudgingly do so for these games. My loyalty to uconn football trumps my boycott of that .

touche

 

[Tenspro2002]

UMass doesn't excite me, but realistically we weren't going to get 4 P5 schools in our OOC schedule. This is better than other MAC/G5 options.

If we can keep reinforcing it with notable P5's (B1Gger is better), then this is fine.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

All valid questions. I think the support for Whipple is solid, although not overwhelming because the jury is still out. The main problem is UMass came in late in the game, the former AD had pretty much checked out and was the wrong guy to lead the move up, and the Molnar hire was a disaster. Listen, I know it's going to be a difficult challenge, especially trying to survive as an independent for the foreseeable future. But the UMass administration remains committed to FBS football, and Bamford strikes me as a pretty dynamic guy. Some more wins would be good for starters. Obviously things can always change, but this scheduling agreement says to me that UConn thinks we'll still be around in a few years.

I have no issue with UMass outside of the old Calapari days. The problem with UMass is that it most resident view it as a safety school behind Harvard, MIT. BU, BC (gag me), Northeastern, Amherst, Tufts, Williams, etc. and its on the wrong end of the state with respect to support from Beacon Hill as those guys (and gals) barely acknowledge that the Bay State extends beyond I-495. Thus, it will also have a problem with funding and the faculty union there would like to abolish most of the athletic department, especially the football team. It's a tough spot.

As for football, if UConn is going to schedule OCC games outside of the P5, UMass will at least generate interest and hopefully decent attendance versus games against Western Michigan (no disrespect to the Broncos, just there is not 'connection' between Storrs and Kalamazoo) and to be honest, most of the AAC.

 

[DoctorWho85]

If you are still broke by then I will cover your parking

Thanks. I'll most likely go either way. I'll find the money. I'm more concerned with the weekend trip to Boston next year. I'm taking my nephew to his first football game and it's gonna be watching UConn smash BC.

 

[HartfordHank]

and its on the wrong end of the state with respect to support from Beacon Hill as those guys (and gals) barely acknowledge that the Bay State extends beyond I-495.

I495? More like 128!

 

[Redding Husky]

It's good to play New England schools. There's not much interest in New England schools outside New England.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I495? More like 128!

Naw, even the folks in Beacon Hill know where Hopkinton as that's where the Marathon starts. That's about it though. I have a Hub born and bred friend who is from Medfield who I took to a UConn game years ago. I asked to meet in Westborough and he did not know where that is.

 

[Nostical]

If the games are competitive then the media will have something to write about and the fans will have something to debate about. How can that be a bad thing? UMass gives the Huskies a real test and the next time they play more will show up in the stands.

Plus it gives the Marching Band and cheerleaders two close and inexpensive bus trip/same day venues to strut their stuff. That's always a plus. UMass has a great band too. The bands are what give college football it's special character.

 

[Alum86]

You really think they are going to ROTFLTAOUSSAJGSJWBV about developing college football in New England again?[/QUOTE

Yes. They see YanCon redux.

Backstabbers from BC we should not play, they will always vote with Clemson and FSU.
UMass makes us look desperate.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Naw, even the folks in Beacon Hill know where Hopkinton as that's where the Marathon starts. That's about it though. I have a Hub born and bred friend who is from Medfield who I took to a UConn game years ago. I asked to meet in Westborough and he did not know where that is.

Hopkinton is on an island by itself in no man's land outside 95. No one here has figured out why they continue to force the runners to go out there instead of doing 20+ miles of laps around the scenic Chestnut Hill reservoir before heading down Beacon Street to finish.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I understand the financial reasons why UConn opts to play UMass at Gillette as opposed to McGuirk Stadium in Amherst, and I can't speak for the rest of the fans, but I'd much rather play UMass on their campus. There are probably few worse college football environments than UMass games at Gillette, and if we played them at McGuirk it'd be a packed house (albeit a packed 25K) rather than a stadium half draped in a tarp.

Since I live 15-20 minutes from Gillette, I disagree. I also think it gives UConn fans a good chance to outnumber UMass fans in the stands, since it is closer to Storrs than Amherst.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Hopkinton is on an island by itself in no man's land outside 95. No one here has figured out why they continue to force the runners to go out there instead of doing 20+ miles of laps around the scenic Chestnut Hill reservoir before heading down Beacon Street to finish.

I'm in Hopkinton now at work. It's a nice, posh bedroom community with one rather large employer. But all the fastest growing areas of metro Boston are along I-495.

 

[outlaw]

Since I live 15-20 minutes from Gillette, I disagree. I also think it gives UConn fans a good chance to outnumber UMass fans in the stands, since it is closer to Storrs than Amherst.

no excuse to not outnumber umass fans

 

[huskypantz]

I'm in Hopkinton now at work. It's a nice, posh bedroom community with one rather large employer. But all the fastest growing areas of metro Boston are along I-495.

It's kind of tough for Somerville, Everett, Quincy, Waltham, Watertown, Dedham etc to grow much - they're already densely populated areas. There is still plenty of open space around 495, hence that is where people build. It's also much cheaper.

 

[HuskyHawk]

It's kind of tough for Somerville, Everett, Quincy, Waltham, Watertown, Dedham etc to grow much - they're already densely populated areas. There is still plenty of open space around 495, hence that is where people build. It's also much cheaper.

And none of them are nearly as nice as most of the towns on the 495 ring. Prices are getting closer as a result. Hopkinton for example, isn't cheap (nor Southborough). It's the Connecticut equivalent of Granby or Simsbury. Now the cheap seats are way out in places like Blackstone and Whitinsville.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I'm in Hopkinton now at work. It's a nice, posh bedroom community with one rather large employer. But all the fastest growing areas of metro Boston are along I-495.

Hopkinton must be sweating with Dell potentially buying EMC.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

And none of them are nearly as nice as most of the towns on the 495 ring. Prices are getting closer as a result. Hopkinton for example, isn't cheap (nor Southborough). It's the Connecticut equivalent of Granby or Simsbury. Now the cheap seats are way out in places like Blackstone and Whitinsville.

Or Lawrence, parts of Malden, Medford, Revere, Chelsea, Everrett, Quincy, Peabody, etc.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Hopkinton must be sweating with Dell potentially buying EMC.

Not really. Might grow actually.

 

[huskypantz]

And none of them are nearly as nice as most of the towns on the 495 ring. Prices are getting closer as a result. Hopkinton for example, isn't cheap (nor Southborough). It's the Connecticut equivalent of Granby or Simsbury. Now the cheap seats are way out in places like Blackstone and Whitinsville.

If you want nice towns on the 95 loop - Winchester, Belmont, Newton, Westwood, Weston, Canton etc etc. There are plenty. The problem I have with any of the 495 towns is the distance from Boston and the commute. I'm big on the value of time, and adding 1-2 hours to my and my wife's daily commutes is just rough. My town (Stoughton) is meh but my neighborhood and location are great, we live on the northern edge - so we're 2 miles from 24, 4 miles from 93, maybe 6 miles from 95 south toward RI. We have a plethora of t stations to choose from. On a Saturday morning, I can get to downtown Boston in 20-25 minutes. I have several friends/colleagues in Franklin. I like the town. Seriously looked at buying a couple of houses there back in 2008. If you have a job on the 495 loop I think it's perfect. I just feel like the 495 towns are very isolated from Boston because of the traffic.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

If you want nice towns on the 95 loop - Winchester, Belmont, Newton, Westwood, Weston, Canton etc etc. There are plenty. The problem I have with any of the 495 towns is the distance from Boston and the commute.

The reason why folks in Boston live out on I-495 are the prices. I have no idea how people in the Hub afford to live there. In NY/NJ, there is some pricing diversity (Ridgewood v Westwood, Franklin Lakes v Oakland, etc.). In Boston, the only lower priced towns like a Chelsea, Malden, etc. have school issues. I have a good friend's wife who is in real estate along I-495 and just sold a nice not extraordinary4 bed colonial in Harvard, which has great schools; but, is a good 40 miles from Copley Square and over an hour commute for $750,000

Average home value 2015 (Zillow)

• Belmont MA: $814,000
  
• Canton: $449,700
  
• Newton MA: $868,000
• Weston MA: $1,361,400
  
• Westwood MA: $638,500
  
• Winchester MA: $872,500

I may move back to the Boston area one day because my families all live in Northern New England. If we did, I would a town like Lexington, North Reading, Reading, and Winchester because I would like work in Boston and my wife in Lowell; but, we'll likely end-up in Chelmesford or Littleton because though we make good money, a +$800,000 house is hard to swallow.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I have no idea how people in the Hub afford to live there

It's surprisingly doable in certain circumstances. I've managed to do it now for ~6 years since college with less-than-stellar-paying jobs.

places like Blackstone and Whitinsville.

foreign countries

 

[huskypantz]

It's possible to get a decent house under 400k. Decent being 1800 sq ft, maybe 1 car garage, 3 bed 1-2 bath, less than 50 years old.

We have a friend of a friend who moved to the Houston area. They had a "decent" house up here. They moved down there and bought a McMansion and probably pocketed some cash.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

It's possible to get a decent house under 400k. Decent being 1800 sq ft, maybe 1 car garage, 3 bed 1-2 bath, less than 50 years old.

We have a friend of a friend who moved to the Houston area. They had a "decent" house up here. They moved down there and bought a McMansion and probably pocketed some cash.

I had a friend who sold his 1,200 square foot condo that 4 people were living in in San Francisco and moved to Raleigh in NC (Apex actually) where he bought a 2,800 home with 4 beds, 4 baths along with a timeshare at a ski resort in Colorado (Breckenridge I think) and still had enough left over to create a nice size college tuition war chest for his two kids.

 

[HuskyHawk]

If you want nice towns on the 95 loop - Winchester, Belmont, Newton, Westwood, Weston, Canton etc etc. There are plenty. The problem I have with any of the 495 towns is the distance from Boston and the commute. I'm big on the value of time, and adding 1-2 hours to my and my wife's daily commutes is just rough. My town (Stoughton) is meh but my neighborhood and location are great, we live on the northern edge - so we're 2 miles from 24, 4 miles from 93, maybe 6 miles from 95 south toward RI. We have a plethora of t stations to choose from. On a Saturday morning, I can get to downtown Boston in 20-25 minutes. I have several friends/colleagues in Franklin. I like the town. Seriously looked at buying a couple of houses there back in 2008. If you have a job on the 495 loop I think it's perfect. I just feel like the 495 towns are very isolated from Boston because of the traffic.

I live in Franklin, and work in Hopkinton. It's a good spot. We have the train to Boston, Downtown Providence is 20 minutes away and the town itself has enough happening, some good restaurants etc. You can still get to Boston in 35-40 minutes at off hours. Patriot Place is 15-20 minutes. I can get across the Bourne Bridge into Falmouth in less than an hour. I think there is one house for sale in my neighborhood if you are looking. One other UConn family, and two more who sent kids to school at UConn recently.

Ultimately we picked Franklin because of the location (I was working in Marlborough but knew I would be in Hopkinton) and because the trade-off in terms of house for the money without living in a less desirable town, was the best we could find. Places like Bellingham and Plainville are cheaper still. But if I worked in Boston I wouldn't live here, I'd need to downsize and move closer. I agree completely on the value of time.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I had a friend who sold his 1,200 square foot condo that 4 people were living in in San Francisco and moved to Raleigh in NC (Apex actually) where he bought a 2,800 home with 4 beds, 4 baths along with a timeshare at a ski resort in Colorado (Breckenridge I think) and still had enough left over to create a nice size college tuition war chest for his two kids.

I moved to Boston from the Bay Area in 1999. It's psycho out there. Some places like Palo Alto are now worse than San Francisco proper. Small 1400 sq ft ranches going for $2M. Much, much worse than Boston, where the average home price is less, even in the nicest towns, but also, the average home is bigger and on more land.

 

[Drew]

Since I live 15-20 minutes from Gillette, I disagree. I also think it gives UConn fans a good chance to outnumber UMass fans in the stands, since it is closer to Storrs than Amherst.

Yeah but this is gonna be sooooooo hard for fans in Fairfield County!