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UMass & Kimani Young

Vuce said:
UMass’ last NCAA tourney win was the game to get to the Final Four when Camby was there in 1996! They have been awful. But they have a brand new hoops facility and the A10 is a good league to start in. Will be interesting if Kimani is pursued.
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Wait, UMass got a NCAA tournament win? Are you sure? It doesn’t appear in the record books.
 
aburks41 said:
Hopefully Castle is fully bought in on Hurley then. Not worried about him going with Kimani, but I do worry that Georgia or Auburn come calling
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I wouldn't worry about Georgia. They're so bad
 
aburks41 said:
Okay so here’s what the UMass source guys are saying on the twitter spaces. They think that Kimani’s agent was the one who leaked this to try to get his name out there for some other jobs. And they used BLauds to leak it because “he’s a dope who would go along with it” lol
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Blauds is a stenographer. If you "leaked" to him that UMass was about to hire Phil Jackson, he'd report it. Guy is an absolute hack, and I cannot believe people here are taking him seriously.

This isn't even about the UMass suggestion. Kimani is a hot HC candidate, and UMass is a solid first HC job. It wouldn't shock me if he ended up getting it. But Mark Blaudschun is never going to break any real news for the rest of his "career."
 
Didn't Blauds say we were going to hire Mark Whipple as our coach like a day before we hired Jim Mora
 
I think we all realize how great Kimani is, but I think the A-10 is a great starting place for him. When he was at Minnesota, they made the tournament twice and never made it out of the first weekend, and UConn still hasnt made it out of the first weekend here.

He has great potential but I dont think his resume warrants a P5 job right now.
 
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kansashusky said:
I think we all realize how great Kimani is, but I think the A-10 is a great starting place for him. When he was at Minnesota, they made the tournament twice and never made it out of the first weekend, and UConn still hasnt made it out of the first weekend here.

He has great potential but I dont think his resume warrants a P5 job right now.
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I think a lot of people don't think he is going to walk into a P5 job (except probably Pitt!) but I am among those who think that there are non P5 schools that are more attractive than UMass.

I dont understand the Minnesota and UConn statement - was he HC at either? This isn't the NFL/NCAA Football where ACs have very specific groups of players to concentrate upon and evaluate based on that group's performance. Whether a MBB team advances is more weighted on the HC's performance.

He did coach UConn to a victory over Nova,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
UMass, or most A10 programs really, would be a perfectly appropriate starting point for Kimani. I think URI has some advantages over UMass. High profile assistants are practically bulletproof as long as they stay in that role. They get tons of credit and nothing is their fault. Kimani is an absolute star, and he deserves a shot to run his own program. It’s also fair to say nothing is a guarantee. I personally think he would excel, but it has to be the right starting spot.
 
Wait until next week to see what is even open to say he can do better than UMass. Might actually be his best option and currently it's the best fit.
 
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I don't know why I have a soft spot for UMass. The underdog, I suppose. Potential regional rivalry in multiple sports. D1 football and neighboring flagship. It's an uphill battle but so wasn't UCONN's path to the BE domination. As mentioned earlier, UMass has an updated facility. With a lotta luck UMass could be the best destination in the A-10. Oh shut up, I said could...

 
CCSUblue said:
Wait until next week to see what is even open to say he can do better than UMass. Might actually be his best option and currently it's the best fit.
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UMass is the kiss of death for any coach.
 
I know folks hate it but IF this move was to happen - I would love to see a UMaine, UVermont, URI, UMass pre-season NE tourney.
 
Slick said:
UMass is the kiss of death for any coach.
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Cal is doing pretty good for himself and he's got his buddy bruiser back so I'd venture that he isn't dead. Travis Ford seems to be doing alright, upgraded from UMass. Kellogg made the mistake of sticking around for too long. Really, only Lappas ended his coaching career there.
 
Just curious to all y'all's opinion: Would Kamani be a viable candidate for a "major college" (as opposed to mid-major) job like: Georgetown, Maryland, Nebraska, Penn State, Georgia, etc? I tend to think so. Thoughts?
 
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seeya27 said:
Just curious to all y'all's opinion: Would Kamani be a viable candidate for a "major college" (as opposed to mid-major) job like: Georgetown, Maryland, Nebraska, Penn State, Georgia, etc? I tend to think so. Thoughts?
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It would be seen as a huge and unnecessary risk because his lack of head coaching experience. It has happened before, but those are usually special circumstances (a succession plan, an ex nba player, famous alum). Not impossible but not likely.
 
seeya27 said:
Just curious to all y'all's opinion: Would Kamani be a viable candidate for a "major college" (as opposed to mid-major) job like: Georgetown, Maryland, Nebraska, Penn State, Georgia, etc? I tend to think so. Thoughts?
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Doubtful, the hot coaching candidates tend to be the mid major head coaches that win games in the tournament or at least make the tournament. For example Dan Hurley at URI or Jim Calhoun at Northeastern. The A10 would be a great landing spot for Kamani.
 
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seeya27 said:
Just curious to all y'all's opinion: Would Kamani be a viable candidate for a "major college" (as opposed to mid-major) job like: Georgetown, Maryland, Nebraska, Penn State, Georgia, etc? I tend to think so. Thoughts?
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Unlikely. He hasn't been a head coach anywhere at all I don't think. Definitely not college or high school. He was the director of New Heights before he became a college assistant.
 
He can get a way better job than UMass.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Doubtful, the hot coaching candidates tend to be the mid major head coaches that win games in the tournament or at least make the tournament. For example Dan Hurley at URI or Jim Calhoun at Northeastern. The A10 would be a great landing spot for Kamani.
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Last year, 11 power conference programs hired new coaches. Six of the 11 had never been head coaches before. Schools have been very open recently to hiring fresh faces instead of retreads.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Last year, 11 power conference programs hired new coaches. Six of the 11 had never been head coaches before. Schools have been very open recently to hiring fresh faces instead of retreads.
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Subtract out any schools that promoted from within. Like UCONN hiring Ollie that's a different ballgame. Hubert Davis at North Carolina doesn't count.

Someone rising through the ranks like Hurley is not the definition of a retread.
 
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CallMeBruce said:
Blauds is a stenographer. If you "leaked" to him that UMass was about to hire Phil Jackson, he'd report it. Guy is an absolute hack, and I cannot believe people here are taking him seriously.

This isn't even about the UMass suggestion. Kimani is a hot HC candidate, and UMass is a solid first HC job. It wouldn't shock me if he ended up getting it. But Mark Blaudschun is never going to break any real news for the rest of his "career."
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Tell us how you really feel about Blauds.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Subtract out any schools that promoted from within. Like UCONN hiring Ollie that's a different ballgame. Hubert Davis at North Carolina doesn't count.

Someone rising through the ranks like Hurley is not the definition of a retread.
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Ok so that still leaves Tony Stubblefield at DePaul (unless you count a half season as interim HC), Ben Johnson at Minnesota, Tommy Lloyd at Arizona who got first time HC jobs at different schools. Not that I expect that to happen for Kimani
 
navery12 said:
Ok so that still leaves Tony Stubblefield at DePaul (unless you count a half season as interim HC), Ben Johnson at Minnesota, Tommy Lloyd at Arizona who got first time HC jobs at different schools. Not that I expect that to happen for Kimani
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Yeah except Ben Johnson played at Minnesota and Tommy Lloyd came from arguably the most successful program in the last 5 years. DePaul comp is a good example although DePaul was probably not considered a good job by most. That said, it’s definitely way better than UMass and Kimani could probably do really well with a similar opportunity.
 
BGesus4 said:
Yeah except Ben Johnson played at Minnesota and Tommy Lloyd came from arguably the most successful program in the last 5 years. DePaul comp is a good example although DePaul was probably not considered a good job by most. That said, it’s definitely way better than UMass and Kimani could probably do really well with a similar opportunity.
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UMASS and Depaul are actually comparable jobs. Both programs have languished for a long time and have been "coaching graveyards" but both have potential. It just takes a good coach who knows what he is doing. Supposedly UMASS is ready to invest in basketball and increase it's salary pool. If so that's a terrific first HC gig for anyone. I would argue its a better job than URI because there are probably many more good basketball recruits in MASS than RI. People on this board knock the UMASS gig because they are afraid of the competition (Camby Jitters)
 
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metsfan2323 said:
UMASS and Depaul are actually comparable jobs. Both programs have languished for a long time and have been "coaching graveyards" but both have potential. It just takes a good coach who knows what he is doing. Supposedly UMASS is ready to invest in basketball and increase it's salary pool. If so that's a terrific first HC gig for anyone. I would argue its a better job than URI because there are probably many more good basketball recruits in MASS than RI. People on this board knock the UMASS gig because they are afraid of the competition (Camby Jitters)
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UMass could be a good job for a great coach but I don’t think there’s “Camby jitters.” The A10 doesn’t have the juice it did back then. Playing in the Big East is a world away from the A10. Back in Camby’s day they were more comparable. The Big East was better but the A10 was very good.

UMass is still going to be a good job for a good recruiter that can make his guys play really hard. The key difference between now and the 90’s is simple. Calipari cheated his butt off and that just isn’t going to happen now. Nobody is buying a Marcus Camby in Amherst these days. People that think UMass can do what they did in 96’ again aren’t considering the realities of modern UMass. Cheating won’t be tolerated and they aren’t going to hire a suspected cheater either.

The next great UMass coach will need to be a great recruiter that really knows how to teach and develop players. I can definitely see Kimani doing well there, but depending on what his agent thinks, there may be better opportunities.
 
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