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I kinda liked the shooting. What was so bad?
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I disagree. The shot selection was good. We missed lots of open looks.
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didn't see bad shots at all, guys just missed open shots again and again, which imo has been a running theme to the season. the team runs good stuff but the supporting guys to bazz and boat just can't knock down an open jumper on a consistent basis.
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Agree totally. They were off for 8 days which is no good for any basketball team. Thankfully, they got back on the court against a team where they would REALLY have to stumble to lose. And Shabazz looked great( a big bullet dodged imo). AND the losing streak is history. AND now they have a real opportunity to string some wins together even though they will be on the road for the next 3(PeeCee,the Stain,SHU) of 4(USF). But, if they can pick up some wins(especially if they run the table), it will set them up very nicely(on every level) for the next three(all at home) against the (traitor) Cuse(#3), Nova and Cincinnati((#21). For a number of reasons, whatever the aesthetics, this win was huge.
GO HUSKIES!!! BEAT THE FRIARS!!!
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Key is they played well the last 5 minutes when they had to. Thank God RU was bad enough they were still in it.........Boat was not good again early too many bad passes, DD was playing real soft and Tyler was back to his old ways.........But Boat was making good decisions late and DD stepped it up.........
All tough games so good win..........If you told me 13-5 and 3-3 in October I would've been pleased and accepted!!
All tough games so good win..........If you told me 13-5 and 3-3 in October I would've been pleased and accepted!!
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Today was a day when it really struck home how undertalented this team is. There is some decent talent, but as I have said before, you have to go back 20 years to find a team with as little NBA-caliber talent as this one. I like Evans' hustle and there are benefits to having a guard as physically strong as he is, but would this guy ever get these kind of minutes on any Calhoun team? Before you say Harrison, Harrison was a cheetah compared to Evans.
We are Boat, Napier, Daniels, and 5 Calhoun Whipping Boys. Daniels is still below average defensively and Boat is getting close to mediocre. I like Giffey's game but when 7 points is a big game when UConn was struggling this hard to score, you can't argue that he is more than a role player, yet he played half or more of the last 4 games.
I love the hustle and chemistry, but UConn is a Mercedes program and this team is a Chevy. I think people predicting a Top 15 preseason if everyone returns are being exceptionally optimistic. There are a lot of guys playing about as well as they are ever going to play.
Today was an ugly game because this team depends on outside shots to win and there will be cold spells that are terrifying as a fan. It's going to happen. I think this team will win 20 games with the remaining schedule, and I will consider this season a big success.
We are Boat, Napier, Daniels, and 5 Calhoun Whipping Boys. Daniels is still below average defensively and Boat is getting close to mediocre. I like Giffey's game but when 7 points is a big game when UConn was struggling this hard to score, you can't argue that he is more than a role player, yet he played half or more of the last 4 games.
I love the hustle and chemistry, but UConn is a Mercedes program and this team is a Chevy. I think people predicting a Top 15 preseason if everyone returns are being exceptionally optimistic. There are a lot of guys playing about as well as they are ever going to play.
Today was an ugly game because this team depends on outside shots to win and there will be cold spells that are terrifying as a fan. It's going to happen. I think this team will win 20 games with the remaining schedule, and I will consider this season a big success.
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What you're not seeing, IMO, is improvement from the bigs of the kind Gavin Edwards showed over his 4 years, and you couple that with Calhoun and Daniels finally figuring out that they are money from midrange, and this team could be deadly. Even if Boat and Napier don't improve, you WILL get improvement from the bigs. Then you wipe away the bad shots from Daniels and Calhoun, and suddenly you just scored 10 more points a game.
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You're not expecting any improvement out of Omar, DeAndre, or Wolf? I think the improvement of those three will go a long way in determing just how good this team can be. The team will still have issues on the interior and on the boards, but if Omar and DeAndre can become dependable and consistent scorers(around 12-15ppg for each) to go along side Bazz and Boat that should be one of the best perimeters in the country, and that's not even taking into consideration Bazz and Boat becoming better versions of what they are now. If Wolf can just become a competent C, I definitely see this as a top 15-20 team. Next year CBB won't be that much different than what it is now, UK and Zona have the potential to be stacked squads, but beyond that there will be good teams without much separation between them.
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You lost me on this statement. It probably applies to Giffey, Olander, and maybe even Shabazz since he's already pretty awesome. But I don't see how it applies to anyone else on this team.
I consider Omar, Daniels, and even Boatright to be guys who still have considerable upside that hasn't been realized yet. I'm more conservative on Wolf than some other people here, but it's crazy to say that he's playing "as well as he's ever going to play." And even if Nolan improves marginally to the point where he can give us 8 minutes a night, that's still an improvement.
UConn is closer to being an Acura program (new luxury brand) while this team is a Honda Civic. Closely related but not quite the same. We're a talented big man away from being a top 10 team. Give us Okafor and this team would be undefeated at this point.
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I'm with you on this. Olander is what Olander has been for 3 years now. he is the definition of a role player/extra body. Giffey is a nice player but again is little more than a role player on most good UConn teams, even on most ok UConn teams. Wolf needs to improve a whole lot just to be average. Had Roscoe and Oriaki not left, I doubt he would even see the floor more than a minute or two this year. Don't confuse use out of necessity with use because of ability.
Saturday's game was a win. Not a great win or even a good one. Rutgers is really not very good at all. But when a team has to rely almost exclusively on outside shooting, as this one does, there are going to be times when it looks terrible. That's the nature of relying on that kind of play.
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It was not pretty from the standpoint we let go of a couple of leads and started both halves looking lost- but we did have the mental toughness to get back in the game and not lose our poise.
A win in the BE is a win I will take this year- we are not a team that looks like we are going to blow anyone away (unless Boat, SN, DD and OC just can not miss a JS and all of them are on fire- ahhh would'nt that be nice.).
If this team finishes the year as a "bubble" NCAA team record wise -you simply have to take your hat off to the coach and the players. 18 wins would be amazing given the defections and JC leaving.
I have said it before and I'll most likely say it again - we seem to be in a good place (outside of the steamy pile which is the BE). Uk and IU took years to get back in the mix as a ranked team and I really think we could crack the top 25 next year if Bazz and Boat stick around. Add a good class (which KO can do- or seems like he can do) and we will not really have a true "down" year. That is my hope moving forward- stay relevant over the next 2 years then build ourselves back in the mix by the 2014-2015 season. So take the wins ugly or not.
A win in the BE is a win I will take this year- we are not a team that looks like we are going to blow anyone away (unless Boat, SN, DD and OC just can not miss a JS and all of them are on fire- ahhh would'nt that be nice.).
If this team finishes the year as a "bubble" NCAA team record wise -you simply have to take your hat off to the coach and the players. 18 wins would be amazing given the defections and JC leaving.
I have said it before and I'll most likely say it again - we seem to be in a good place (outside of the steamy pile which is the BE). Uk and IU took years to get back in the mix as a ranked team and I really think we could crack the top 25 next year if Bazz and Boat stick around. Add a good class (which KO can do- or seems like he can do) and we will not really have a true "down" year. That is my hope moving forward- stay relevant over the next 2 years then build ourselves back in the mix by the 2014-2015 season. So take the wins ugly or not.
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I thought this team was a minimum 18 wins form the outset, so I guess I don't buy all the alocades. They are winning games they should win. Add in that the Big East is not quite up to its more typical standards this year and it seems even more likely that 18 is the floor. Louisville has been exposed, Syracuse has been exposed (yet again), there are whole lot of very average teams among the rest, us included. And there are a number of pretty bad one, including the Rutboys.
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Every win or loss this year will be ugly. We have a top backcourt, a sub-par frontcourt, and no bench. Add-in that everyone plays hard (hi Alex) and some need to be better at team defense and you have a middle of the pack BE team that can win or lose every game left.
18 wins sounds about right. 20 would be a terrific season if everyone shows improvement.
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18 wins sounds about right. 20 would be a terrific season if everyone shows improvement.
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If they win 17, real solid year. 18 and over bonus!!
Keep everyone home, add some pieces they can be very fun to watch next year and ultimately thats' what this season is about. I think this team will rally together in the summer, work their respective butts off and come back with a HUGE chip on their shoulders!
Keep everyone home, add some pieces they can be very fun to watch next year and ultimately thats' what this season is about. I think this team will rally together in the summer, work their respective butts off and come back with a HUGE chip on their shoulders!
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Are you the "Tonyc" of the men's board? I thought .500 would be good enough to get KO a job. They have greatly exceeded my expectations. Sometimes it's ugly to watch, but the heart and hustle are always there for almost all of them. A couple look like they are getting burnt out, and I hope KO gets them aside before they spoil some others. Love that team first stuff.
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That pretty opto
18 games is a good season- not great but good. We lost our two best players to the Pros and had 3 leave and we are still competing at a reasonable level.
I guess if you did not set your expectations so high you could not longer be negative about what we are doing so your season would have been a bust. I get it.
That is pretty optimistic coming from you Free. That usually would mean we are going to win 30 games. I also do not see the BE being down- nor these teams being "exposed" there are what 5 ranked teams in the BE and another 5 teams that have shown they can beat top 15 teams if they play well including UCONN.
18 games is a good season- not great but good. We lost our two best players to the Pros and had 3 leave and we are still competing at a reasonable level.
I guess if you did not set your expectations so high you could not longer be negative about what we are doing so your season would have been a bust. I get it.
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Free setting up high expectations for Ollie means that if he didn't meet them, then the school should fire him now and get it over with. If he meets them, then Ollie is just doing what he is supposed to and there should be no reason to give him props. Its a win-win for him either way.
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