UCONN with the # 5 Incoming Recruiting Class for the 2023/2024 Season according to HoopSeenW | The Boneyard

UCONN with the # 5 Incoming Recruiting Class for the 2023/2024 Season according to HoopSeenW

CONNCAN said:

2023 Team Recruiting Rankings | Hoopseenw

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UCONN with the # 5 Incoming Recruiting Class for the 2023/2024 season. #1 thru #4 just doesn't seem right?
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The rating does not reflect a ranking for Jana. If it did, we would be higher, but it looks like the strong are getting stronger to the point that there might only be 4-6 actual NC contenders over the next few years. I'm glad we will be one of them.
 
Gotta say the only real rankings are on the Boneyard. El Alfy imo is top 2 and she aint 2. Why because Geno imo knows more and has known more for a very long time. There used to be only a few people who knew what was going on in WCBB and now there are more and the majority of them are on the Boneyard. EL Alfy KK Ashlynn and Q are the number 1 class and even a blind man can see that. Understand you recruit positions you need to fill with the best players you can get. Geno seems to get alot more then any other team.
 
The simple way to rank the best recruiting class would be to take the players rank totals and average them out to get Avg Rank for class... hey it's as good as any other method out there.

With the above metrics, this would look like as follows;

T#1 ND and UConn tied for first (not including Jana) with an average rank of 13,
#3 Arizona (avg rank 14.66)
#4 South Carolina (avg rank 25.5)
#5 Stanford (avg rank 27.33)
#6 LSU (avg rank 27.75)
#7 NC State (avg rank 32.75)
#8 North Carolina (avg rank 41.75)
#9 USC (avg rank 45.5
#10 Duke (avg rank 55)
....didn't bother with the other 15 teams
 
Tonyc said:
Gotta say the only real rankings are on the Boneyard. El Alfy imo is top 2 and she aint 2. Why because Geno imo knows more and has known more for a very long time. There used to be only a few people who knew what was going on in WCBB and now there are more and the majority of them are on the Boneyard. EL Alfy KK Ashlynn and Q are the number 1 class and even a blind man can see that. Understand you recruit positions you need to fill with the best players you can get. Geno seems to get alot more then any other team.
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I think they're also the #1 class precisely for us. The way they will mesh with who we already have is really striking.
 
mbr33ct said:
The simple way to rank the best recruiting class would be to take the players rank totals and average them out to get Avg Rank for class... hey it's as good as any other method out there.

With the above metrics, this would look like as follows;

T#1 ND and UConn tied for first (not including Jana) with an average rank of 13,
#3 Arizona (avg rank 14.66)
#4 South Carolina (avg rank 25.5)
#5 Stanford (avg rank 27.33)
#6 LSU (avg rank 27.75)
#7 NC State (avg rank 32.75)
#8 North Carolina (avg rank 41.75)
#9 USC (avg rank 45.5
#10 Duke (avg rank 55)
....didn't bother with the other 15 teams
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However, you will have to factor in the size of the class as well. If a class has 4 or 5 players and another class has 2 then you can't just use average rankings.
 
Like most of you, I saw that "ranking" and thought "meh". But in fairness, Hidalgo is top 6 per both HG and BS. PN has her at #9 so she's a legit top 10 kid.

A lot of those sites like to totally weight bigger classes of lower ranked kids ahead of smaller classes with higher ranked kids. BUT IMHO a class of #2 and 8 for example is MUCH better than the other team who has #20, 28, 35, 40 and 48.

I don't know where to rank El Alfy. I don't know how good she is compared to the American kids. When Nurse came to UCONN, a lot of us felt she was a legit top 10 kid, if not higher. That was borne out. Edwards - same for her. I do think she's a legit top 10 in her class. Canadians are a bit easier cuz of the proximity.

Muhl - some thought she might be top 15, others top 40. And with her at least we had more film of her playing against decent competition. Jana - no idea. She's YOUNG. Just turned 17. Saw an interview of her at 14 and she had a very thick accent. Saw her again at 16, and her English was flawless with a small accent.

If she works as hard at her game as she did with her English, she's going to be a superstar. I see her a bit in the mold of Stewie. No one will be as good as her, at least not any time soon, but similar game. How much upside does she have? A post player who can go to the basket from both sides, with a great mid range and decent 3-point shot - what's not to love about her game?

Obviously there are players in that class I'd have love to have landed, but i would not trade our class as a whole for any other teams' out there, and it's not close. We got the perfect well rounded class - a PG, guard, wing, and forward. And I think 3 out of the 4 of them are legit top 10 recruits. Welcome to UCONN ladies - I see NC's in your future!! ;)

PS. How about the guns on Arnold in that photo? Dangerfield watch out - she's not even gone thru UCONN's strength and conditioning yet, and she's already super fit. So is Shade BTW... gym rat for sure.
 
shiverz45 said:
However, you will have to factor in the size of the class as well. If a class has 4 or 5 players and another class has 2 then you can't just use average rankings.
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But...isn't an "average" just an "average" of the items in the set under consideration? However, I agree
that some things are not easily numerically quantified. It does make for an interesting discussion.
 
Bills Fan said:
The rating does not reflect a ranking for Jana. If it did, we would be higher, but it looks like the strong are getting stronger to the point that there might only be 4-6 actual NC contenders over the next few years. I'm glad we will be one of them.
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Indeed. While we are strengthing our team with uber-talented players, so are other top 25 teams. LSU, Notre Dame, Stanford, and of course South Carolina and all the other top 15 programs all compete for the same recruits. No program can recruit all the best players every year.

As deep as we are at guard, do you think Geno would have turned Juju away had she wanted to become a husky? Like most UConn fans, I’m very happy with our freshman class next year.

But I also realize there are a lot of extremely talented players going to other programs. If I like our chances against any one this year, and I do, I definitely like them against all comers next year. :cool:
 
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Pretty solid list & ranking. That Arizona squad and Washington Huskies squad, if those players, from both teams, buy in to what their coaches are preaching, we could see Stanford being pushed hard for that PAC 12 title every year. Not sure how long coach Tara is going to hang around.

I am just loving how talented these young ladies are becoming. Decades ago you would attend a high school tournament and there might be one maybe two talented players throughout the whole tournament. Now, every team has two or three talented players on a team.
 
Charliebball said:
Yes not including Jana makes a big difference.........I'd take UConn's four recruits over any of the other school's recruiting classes...........
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........in a heartbeat!!!
 
mbr33ct said:
The simple way to rank the best recruiting class would be to take the players rank totals and average them out to get Avg Rank for class... hey it's as good as any other method out there.

With the above metrics, this would look like as follows;

T#1 ND and UConn tied for first (not including Jana) with an average rank of 13,
#3 Arizona (avg rank 14.66)
#4 South Carolina (avg rank 25.5)
#5 Stanford (avg rank 27.33)
#6 LSU (avg rank 27.75)
#7 NC State (avg rank 32.75)
#8 North Carolina (avg rank 41.75)
#9 USC (avg rank 45.5
#10 Duke (avg rank 55)
....didn't bother with the other 15 teams
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Average rank isn't a good way to measure classes. For example by that measure we shouldn't have added Q, our average rating would have been better without her. If we added any other players worse than number 13 but still good that would be a plus but our average rating would decrease.

If you are comparing same size classes it might be decent, but is pretty useless if the class sizes that are being compared are different.
 
These rankings don’t mean all that much. UConn had the number one class in 2017 and we know how that turned out. :eek: The rankings are a nice ‘best guess’ of ability, but they don’t predict how well someone will adapt to the college game or mesh with a new team.
 
TeamFirst! said:
I think LSU and UConn tied for #1. I’d rather have 2 great players than 5 good players.if you recruit 2 great players every year that’s your rotation right there.
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On the other hand, if you had a single "2" and I had 2 "3s". You average out to a 2 and I average out to a 3. But what would you rather have? I rather have 2 "3s".
 
Really well done recruiting assessment. Gives us more info regarding how UConn stacks up to the other top teams in the future (i.e. really well). Where is Tennessee? LOL.
 
mbr33ct said:
The simple way to rank the best recruiting class would be to take the players rank totals and average them out to get Avg Rank for class... hey it's as good as any other method out there.

With the above metrics, this would look like as follows;

T#1 ND and UConn tied for first (not including Jana) with an average rank of 13,
#3 Arizona (avg rank 14.66)
#4 South Carolina (avg rank 25.5)
#5 Stanford (avg rank 27.33)
#6 LSU (avg rank 27.75)
#7 NC State (avg rank 32.75)
#8 North Carolina (avg rank 41.75)
#9 USC (avg rank 45.5
#10 Duke (avg rank 55)
....didn't bother with the other 15 teams
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Nope because if USC only signed Juju, you would have to rank them number 2, although they only signed one player?
 
Dognusty said:
Nope because if USC only signed Juju, you would have to rank them number 2, although they only signed one player?
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Sometimes you only need the one. So you saying USC did not sign #89 Malia Samuels? Another reason for not caring what school signed the top class....omissions and "extra" recruit added to list for schools, if they did not sign. What's interesting is that HoopGurlz has Malia Samuels ranked at #49, big difference than #89 of HoopseenW.
 
mbr33ct said:
Sometimes you only need the one. So you saying USC did not sign #89 Malia Samuels? Another reason for not caring what school signed the top class....omissions and "extra" recruit added to list for schools, if they did not sign. What's interesting is that HoopGurlz has Malia Samuels ranked at #49, big difference than #89 of HoopseenW.
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It was an example to show that you can't just use averages. If Team A signed the #1 and #4 ranked players, and Team B only signed #2, based upon just averages Team B has the better class. But I think most would agree that Team A has the better class.
 
mbr33ct said:
The simple way to rank the best recruiting class would be to take the players rank totals and average them out to get Avg Rank for class... hey it's as good as any other method out there.

With the above metrics, this would look like as follows;

T#1 ND and UConn tied for first (not including Jana) with an average rank of 13,
#3 Arizona (avg rank 14.66)
#4 South Carolina (avg rank 25.5)
#5 Stanford (avg rank 27.33)
#6 LSU (avg rank 27.75)
#7 NC State (avg rank 32.75)
#8 North Carolina (avg rank 41.75)
#9 USC (avg rank 45.5
#10 Duke (avg rank 55)
....didn't bother with the other 15 teams
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Yet, that is also imperfect because you are only including the rankings average for one service. ASGR. To get a clear picture, you need to also include Hoopgurlz and Prospect NTiin - at least. Maybe even BlueStar and Prepgirls.

I’m to lazy to do everybody so I’m just gonna compare 3 recruits from SC and UConn using ASGR, Hoopgurlz and prospect nation

KK 6-9-6= 7.66
Ashlyn 15-12-8 =11.66
Quadance 41-18-40ish= 33
El Alfy UR

Fulwiley 13-4-3 = 6.66
Kitts 17-31-4= 17
Tessa 25-53-40ish = 40.2
Jah 40-14-40ish = 31.3

Scar total top 3 is 54.86
UConn total three is 52.22
UConn wins on top three ( but did ASGR really watch Kitts? 31? really?)

then the question becomes is El Alfy better than Tessa’s average rating of 40? Based on my eyeballs, I would say that she’s at least as talented as the 40th best recruit this year. Indeed, I think she has more offensive talent than LSU’s Del Rosario though unsure about defensive wanna bang in the post necessary for NCAA top level.

In other words: who really knows, but I would give the edge to UConn while being perfectly satisfied with our class. We both got enough talent to stay around the top 4, just gotta win two games when you are at that level.


It’s all bs anyway. Dawn’s happy. Geno’s happy. Y’all are happy.

If you find math error above, remember what Barbie said.
 

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