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Bone Dog said:
Is it a freshman wall or is it just that every team is simply playing better defense now? Ash and KK played remarkably tough and focused. But they struggled finding open shots, and Ash missed a few open 3s. Tough D will do that to you. Q caught a number of teams by surprise early on and burned them from the perimeter. Those opportunities are fewer these days. But on the positive side she’s taking more midrange shots and driving more.

I really like Q on offense. She shoots, she drives, she rebounds her own misses. On defense, she is less sure of herself, still occasionally gets lost on switches, and finds herself out of position. This is where she needs to grow. On the plus side, she dives for loose balls and is crafty on the defensive boards.
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I think we have to remember KK and Ash are true freshman playing huge minutes for a very good team. No one, anywhere, could have expected them to play as much as they have before the season started. Without them playing good solid basketball the team would not be where it is today.

They re also going through their freshman year grind of college and being away from home. So there is a lot they are managing. Can’t expect them to perform at consistent level game in and game out,

Ash shot fell earlier in the season, it isn’t now. Shooters go through ups and downs, all you can do is keep shooting. It will come back around, I feel confident in that. I dont view KK as a real scoring threat for where she is in her development. I think points from her are gravy, we need her to push the pace of play and play very strong defense.

Q needs a study in the term ”shot selection”. On one hand I love her tenacity in wanting to score, but in the other hand so much seems forced or that she’s predetermined she is shooting no matter what.
 
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A tough, physical game played with a six player rotation. And Q only was in 14 minutes. No telling why Ice stayed on the bench while the starters had to gut it out. Too bad Ines and Amari haven't gotten to the point where they could sub in even for a minute or two here and there to give the starters a blow. It is what it is.
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Now I am sure Geno has some type of problem with Ines. This was a perfect opportunity to use her in a game where none of the freshman were playing well and Nika went out. She certainly couldn't have done any worse. She is fast and a good defender and knows the plays, so...?
 
If I was preparing to play UConn I would make them shoot from outside and sag into the lane to eliminate AE. This team has two players that can score and the others are not very good from long range. If they can't get an inside presence from Ice they are going to get a lot of this in the tournament.

Geno hasn't done anything to develop this team to do anything other than play small and when teams decide to make the guards beat them from outside I think they could struggle. The good news though is they still win when things don't go their way as long as the other team can't play them straight up in the post and double Paige.

At some point they could have worked on a 2-3 zone with AE, Ice on the wings and Amari in the middle with Paige and Nika up top just to give other teams something to consider. It will be interesting to see how far a one dimensional team can get when they don't have a dominant post game.
 
Surly1 said:
While I am certainly in the camp of having Paige shoot more often, I think it is more important as to when she shoots during the game. Paige will never be a volume shooter like Caitlin Clark or JuJu Watkins. She is an efficient shooter with the ability to assert herself and take over a game. The past two contests, she's scored 30 or more, taking 15 shots each game. More importantly, she's gotten to the foul line making 18 of 20 free throw attempts. Hard to argue with her effectiveness and execution.

As the team enters tourney time, Paige will be more aggressive, picking her spots, passing to another after trying to create for herself or trying to score in whatever manner seems appropriate. I feel she got into a bit of a rut taking 3's over the last 10 games, but I love the recent attacking the basket. She has so many moves, amazing body control that makes it almost impossible for a defender to stop her without fouling.

Yes, it would be nice for Ashlynn to be a more reliable third option, but as long as Aaliyah and Paige produce and remain aggressive offensively, UConn will be in the game.

I liked that Geno strongly "emphasized" his displeasure to Paige at the end of the first half when she passed the ball instead of trying to create for herself,
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Yes Paige has been very efficient shooting the last 2 games but Nova is not a good team in fact they just got beat by Butler at home and DEPaul is simply atrocious.When they get into the Ncaa's defenses will be a lot better.I find it concerning for the 2nd time in the last 2 weeks Geno has brought up the lack of movement by Paige,he was yelling at her on a timeout during the Creighton game to not just stand there,she had to keep moving unless she was setting a screen or had the ball in her hands.I brought up a few weeks ago that Paige had to score 30+ each game for them to make it past the sweet 16 and if she does that and having another AA in AE to continue her dominate play than they could go far,if that means Paige has to take 25-30 volume shots a game so be it
 
I am going to post this separately too.
The Nova UConn replay is available on the Fox Sports App

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FormerCTrez said:
Maybe Geno is sending her a big message!! I realize that she’s trying to gain some stamina after not playing at all last year, but she needs to become a consistent contributor to the team. If she’s able to make 3-4 baskets every game, defend, and stay out of foul trouble, then UConn would become a much better team. I’m still hoping for an improvement from her.
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My season seats are behind the UConn bench and many, many times, Ice simply makes poor shot decisions and when she gets yanked out of the game, like last night, Geno or CD have a rather stern discussion with her. To me, for every step Ice takes forward, she takes 2 steps back. Her game is not strong enough yet to justify her taking 18 foot jumpers like she is often prone to do and the coaching staff let her know that again when she was removed.

I also disagree with a poster who says Q wasn't effective, I actually think she has improved and does well on defense now. She doesn't look to just hoist 3 point shots any more and looks to drive and take a mid-range shot AND she gets involved underneath in rebounding (not as successful as I would like but...).

We ultimately need Ice to give Aaliyah a breather and to defend the bigger front court players to allow Paige to focus more on offense. If Ice doesn't continue her development, we are sunk. Maybe last night's limited minutes were the "shot across the bow" to Ice that she needs to keep on working and a reward to Q that her hard work has earned earlier playing time.

Yes, the game was sloppy, yes our shooting from the freshman was atrocious but we still won by 21 points and despite 'Nova closing it to 7, no one felt this game was in jeopardy.

The long discussion with Denise at the end of the game was a "jovial" chat, as Geno and Denise do have a good relationship and despite the game getting a bit "chippy" this was not "UCF style". What hurt Villanova the most was the poor fouling by Dalce who only played 6 minutes. Until she gets her propensity to foul under control, the Wildcats will struggle as she is their 2nd best player (albeit a non-popular opposition player-just ask the UConn student section).

Lastly, at halftime, the school honored all the student athletes who attained a 3.0 or higher GPA last semester and the Women's team had 11 members recognized. The Men's team had 5.
 
DefenseBB said:
My season seats are behind the UConn bench and many, many times, Ice simply makes poor shot decisions and when she gets yanked out of the game, like last night, Geno or CD have a rather stern discussion with her. To me, for every step Ice takes forward, she takes 2 steps back. Her game is not strong enough yet to justify her taking 18 foot jumpers like she is often prone to do and the coaching staff let her know that again when she was removed.

I also disagree with a poster who says Q wasn't effective, I actually think she has improved and does well on defense now. She doesn't look to just hoist 3 point shots any more and looks to drive and take a mid-range shot AND she gets involved underneath in rebounding (not as successful as I would like but...).

We ultimately need Ice to give Aaliyah a breather and to defend the bigger front court players to allow Paige to focus more on offense. If Ice doesn't continue her development, we are sunk. Maybe last night's limited minutes were the "shot across the bow" to Ice that she needs to keep on working and a reward to Q that her hard work has earned earlier playing time.

Yes, the game was sloppy, yes our shooting from the freshman was atrocious but we still won by 21 points and despite 'Nova closing it to 7, no one felt this game was in jeopardy.

The long discussion with Denise at the end of the game was a "jovial" chat, as Geno and Denise do have a good relationship and despite the game getting a bit "chippy" this was not a "UCF style thugfest". What hurt Villanova the most was the poor fouling by Dalce who only played 6 minutes. Until she gets her propensity to foul under control, the Wildcats will struggle as she is their 2nd best player (albeit a non-popular opposition player-just ask the UConn student section).

Lastly, at halftime, the school honored all the student athletes who attained a 3.0 or higher GPA last semester and the Women's team had 11 members recognized. The Men's team had 5.
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I agree with DefenseBB - Q had a productive game. She played 14 minutes and scored 5 points, had 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals. She looked quick, agile, and mobile. She hustles and plays hard every second. Geno must like what she is doing in practice because she got the bench minutes.
 
HuskyNan said:
No one had a good game - not UConn, not Villanova, and not the refs. :mad:
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Dang! One of those games? I was not able to watch the game but heard bits and pieces. Catching up with the post game comments now.
 
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HuskyNan said:
To be fair, there were some awful calls on Villanova, too. I thought the sheer number of whistles created a choppy, disjointed, and ugly game.
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100% agree. Officiating overall, to both teams, was inept. Something really needs to be done about it. No reason it’s this bad. Whomever is in charge of these officials, training programs, accountability, etc. is failing in their job.
 
FormerCTrez said:
It’s quite okay to be demonstrative, and I love the fact that our battered teammates stand up for each other. Being nice all the time just doesn’t work. And so sometimes when people push you around, you just have to shove them on their backside(s), to let them know you’re no pushover.
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UConn can ill-afford to have Paige in foul trouble, and T's can add to that total. Let Geno do the mouthing off; he's not as important.
 
Urshurak said:
100% agree. Officiating overall, to both teams, was inept. Something really needs to be done about it. No reason it’s this bad. Whomever is in charge of these officials, training programs, accountability, etc. is failing in their job.
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The 4th foul on Lucy was as bad as the 4th foul on Paige. Maybe the refs were trying to even them out. …just kidding. Sorta
 
ERWUC65 said:
Now I am sure Geno has some type of problem with Ines. This was a perfect opportunity to use her in a game where none of the freshman were playing well and Nika went out. She certainly couldn't have done any worse. She is fast and a good defender and knows the plays, so...?
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UCONN has 3 pg's that are better than her. I don;t agree that she couldn't have been worse. Geno praised teh Defense which means the freshmen weren't all that bad. But if anything io Ice could have seen more time and even Q even though she got some time.
 
topogigio said:
Paige's efficiency numbers are quite impressive. It appears when she "shows up" the refs like on her traveling call, they retaliate by calling ticky-tack or phantom fouls against her. My advice to her is to stop the moaning and groaning every time she gets call and just let your game do the talking. Nika had a couple of timely shots, but she is throwing some horrible passes for a senior with her experience.
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Paige rarely “moans & groans about calls but yesterday was atrocious reffing!
 
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browns said:
Yes Paige has been very efficient shooting the last 2 games but Nova is not a good team in fact they just got beat by Butler at home and DEPaul is simply atrocious.When they get into the Ncaa's defenses will be a lot better.I find it concerning for the 2nd time in the last 2 weeks Geno has brought up the lack of movement by Paige,he was yelling at her on a timeout during the Creighton game to not just stand there,she had to keep moving unless she was setting a screen or had the ball in her hands.I brought up a few weeks ago that Paige had to score 30+ each game for them to make it past the sweet 16 and if she does that and having another AA in AE to continue her dominate play than they could go far,if that means Paige has to take 25-30 volume shots a game so be it
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I don’t expect a FF - and even the 32 game and especially the S16 game could be big trouble. But with that said, the Big East teams know the UCONN Offense. While other teams can scout it- play against the same type of Offense etc it still would be a different opponent. A top quality coach like the Nova coach is - having played against UCONN quite a bit and having some prior NCAA success, it is possible her team defensively can be better prepared against the UCONN Offense despite the other team being of higher quality.

Heck last year we saw what the men did in their own conference vs out of it. And watching the 01-02 team last night again talking with Geno- I believe that year the team that probably gave UCONN their toughest test was the Big East Va Tech team.
 
HuskyNan said:
The 4th foul on Lucy was as bad as the 4th foul on Paige. Maybe the refs were trying to even them out. …just kidding. Sorta
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I'd love to see a statistical analysis on traveling calls. Officials sometimes over-react when there's a discontinuity, a stutter in movement, which can happen all the time and really NOT be a violation. Then they try to make ammends.

What I'm convinced you'd find is that the distribution is 3-5X higher than normal for a second call within 2 minutes of an initial call, and more than normally on the other team.

The common wisdom is "it all evens out." No, it doesn't. A bad call is a bad call. You can't even out the impact on the game, get a do-over; officials can't reset the game as if their original lousy call hadn't been made; the flow of the game has been changed.
 
PhillyCoach said:
I agree with DefenseBB - Q had a productive game. She played 14 minutes and scored 5 points, had 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals. She looked quick, agile, and mobile. She hustles and plays hard every second. Geno must like what she is doing in practice because she got the bench minutes.
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Q will be a star in some games this season and will settle in to be a hustle type player that gives you 100% when on the floor. Love her potential.
 
HuskieDawg said:
I think we have to remember KK and Ash are true freshman playing huge minutes for a very good team. No one, anywhere, could have expected them to play as much as they have before the season started. Without them playing good solid basketball the team would not be where it is today.

They re also going through their freshman year grind of college and being away from home. So there is a lot they are managing. Can’t expect them to perform at consistent level game in and game out,

Ash shot fell earlier in the season, it isn’t now. Shooters go through ups and downs, all you can do is keep shooting. It will come back around, I feel confident in that. I dont view KK as a real scoring threat for where she is in her development. I think points from her are gravy, we need her to push the pace of play and play very strong defense.

Q needs a study in the term ”shot selection”. On one hand I love her tenacity in wanting to score, but in the other hand so much seems forced or that she’s predetermined she is shooting no matter what.
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I truly believe this area of her game will vastly improve as she matures.

PS: Nice post
 
PhillyCoach said:
I agree with DefenseBB - Q had a productive game. She played 14 minutes and scored 5 points, had 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals. She looked quick, agile, and mobile. She hustles and plays hard every second. Geno must like what she is doing in practice because she got the bench minutes.
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In a game with Vill who is guard oriented, Q is the better option than Ice. I'm still perplexed as to why Ines didn't get some minutes when Vill had some subs in.

Ice to me is in a mental conflict with herself. She is not quick enough right now to play the game she wants to play and unwilling to have a real conversation with herself and just play exclusively down low until she gets her conditioning in order. It will probably take the off season for her to get fully in shape after the injury year.
 
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DefenseBB said:
My season seats are behind the UConn bench and many, many times, Ice simply makes poor shot decisions and when she gets yanked out of the game, like last night, Geno or CD have a rather stern discussion with her. To me, for every step Ice takes forward, she takes 2 steps back. Her game is not strong enough yet to justify her taking 18 foot jumpers like she is often prone to do and the coaching staff let her know that again when she was removed.

I also disagree with a poster who says Q wasn't effective, I actually think she has improved and does well on defense now. She doesn't look to just hoist 3 point shots any more and looks to drive and take a mid-range shot AND she gets involved underneath in rebounding (not as successful as I would like but...).

We ultimately need Ice to give Aaliyah a breather and to defend the bigger front court players to allow Paige to focus more on offense. If Ice doesn't continue her development, we are sunk. Maybe last night's limited minutes were the "shot across the bow" to Ice that she needs to keep on working and a reward to Q that her hard work has earned earlier playing time.

Yes, the game was sloppy, yes our shooting from the freshman was atrocious but we still won by 21 points and despite 'Nova closing it to 7, no one felt this game was in jeopardy.

The long discussion with Denise at the end of the game was a "jovial" chat, as Geno and Denise do have a good relationship and despite the game getting a bit "chippy" this was not "UCF style". What hurt Villanova the most was the poor fouling by Dalce who only played 6 minutes. Until she gets her propensity to foul under control, the Wildcats will struggle as she is their 2nd best player (albeit a non-popular opposition player-just ask the UConn student section).

Lastly, at halftime, the school honored all the student athletes who attained a 3.0 or higher GPA last semester and the Women's team had 11 members recognized. The Men's team had 5.
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At this point in her college career, Ice‘s shooting reminds me (somewhat) of Aliyah Boston, because they love taking the jump shot. I do recall Dawn Staley referring to Boston as “Jump Shot Jenny”. But look out well she turned out? We Boneyarders know she was a “bruising stud” for SCAR by the time she graduated. So, I do believe Ice’s development will include exchanging bruises underneath the basket.
 
DefenseBB said:
My season seats are behind the UConn bench and many, many times, Ice simply makes poor shot decisions and when she gets yanked out of the game, like last night, Geno or CD have a rather stern discussion with her. To me, for every step Ice takes forward, she takes 2 steps back. Her game is not strong enough yet to justify her taking 18 foot jumpers like she is often prone to do and the coaching staff let her know that again when she was removed.

I also disagree with a poster who says Q wasn't effective, I actually think she has improved and does well on defense now. She doesn't look to just hoist 3 point shots any more and looks to drive and take a mid-range shot AND she gets involved underneath in rebounding (not as successful as I would like but...).

We ultimately need Ice to give Aaliyah a breather and to defend the bigger front court players to allow Paige to focus more on offense. If Ice doesn't continue her development, we are sunk. Maybe last night's limited minutes were the "shot across the bow" to Ice that she needs to keep on working and a reward to Q that her hard work has earned earlier playing time.

Yes, the game was sloppy, yes our shooting from the freshman was atrocious but we still won by 21 points and despite 'Nova closing it to 7, no one felt this game was in jeopardy.

The long discussion with Denise at the end of the game was a "jovial" chat, as Geno and Denise do have a good relationship and despite the game getting a bit "chippy" this was not "UCF style". What hurt Villanova the most was the poor fouling by Dalce who only played 6 minutes. Until she gets her propensity to foul under control, the Wildcats will struggle as she is their 2nd best player (albeit a non-popular opposition player-just ask the UConn student section).

Lastly, at halftime, the school honored all the student athletes who attained a 3.0 or higher GPA last semester and the Women's team had 11 members recognized. The Men's team had 5.
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I think recently Ice has been 2 steps forward and 1 back, rather than the reverse.
 
Surly1 said:
While I am certainly in the camp of having Paige shoot more often, I think it is more important as to when she shoots during the game. Paige will never be a volume shooter like Caitlin Clark or JuJu Watkins. She is an efficient shooter with the ability to assert herself and take over a game. The past two contests, she's scored 30 or more, taking 15 shots each game. More importantly, she's gotten to the foul line making 18 of 20 free throw attempts. Hard to argue with her effectiveness and execution.
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Recent stats for Paige, Caitlin, and JuJu:

Paige: 54/42/86 on 422 shots

Caitlin: 47/39/85 on 635 shots

JuJu: 42/35/86 on 574 shots
 
HuskyNan said:
Dan is a big fan of both basketball teams and, of course, football team. For those who don’t know, Dan is a former UConn quarterback and is now on ESPN
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Dan was just on "First Take" and said it was the first womens game he had ever been to and was surprised how well the women play.He should have gone to some of Stewie, Mojo and Tuck's games and he would have been really shocked
 
MilfordHusky said:
Recent stats for Paige, Caitlin, and JuJu:

Paige: 54/42/86 on 422 shots

Caitlin: 47/39/85 on 635 shots

JuJu: 42/35/86 on 574 shots
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Should have included rebounds and assists in recent games
 
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