OT: UConn students evicted from dorms

[JonathanXIV]

250,000 motorcyclists were in South Dakota for a week, the vast majority jammed together without masks. This is not an issue confined to young people.

 

[DefenseBB]

A little unfair to damn all college students for the actions of a few. And it’s not like every adult has been a model of responsible behavior.

Duly noted but to compound this situation at UConn, it was in an HONORS dorm that the party occurred. Most of these knuckleheads were given 1 person per room priority and usually have some form academic scholarship. The unfortunate news for the parents is the money is NOT refundable. So yeah, I am sort of with the majority here that these "young adults" were dolts and deserve what they got. The school is still reviewing the footage to expel more of these students from the dorm. In theory, the Honors students are supposed to be leaders...

 

[Boreifs]

When I read the OP, something about it did not sit quite right. You nailed it for me; I hope this remains.

I hope the following is not viewed as political, as it favors no current ideology or party. @CL82 stated that men's ability to see consequences do not develop very well until age 27. As a former educator that makes sense to me, but I would like to cross-reference it with the paleolithic evidence (which relies on carbon dating) that the lifespan for early nomads was around 33.

That means only six years of existence, on average, of men being able to see consequences. Something is wrong with either the lifespan evidence or the development study. It turns out something is wrong with both.

Ethnographic evidence differs markedly from paleolithic evidence in regards to the natural lifespan of an early nomad. When ethnographers began to study the Huron tribes, cross-referencing with tribal histories revealed an occasional member reaching 100. The life expectancy at age 15 was estimated to be fifty years. Ethnographers routinely discovered members of tribes estimated to be in in the 60-80 year range.

Grandparents are found to be very important in the family unit of nomads, even though nomads start having families in their late teens. It was during our agricultural phase that young teens started having kids. Do the math.

Yet our society chooses the paleolithic evidence to characterize our early nomads, whether in a Seinfeld sketch or a think tank diatribe. There are consequences for that which it would be best for us to think about .... when we are developmentally ready. Lol

As for that, developmental studies are done on civilized subjects. The norm for a civilized subject is different from a nomad in many ways. In regards to development, nomads develop as a mixed-aged community; us civilized folks develop in single age cohorts with specific authorities in charge in steps along the way. Nomads are more likely to think like adults sooner; while adults are more likely to retain a childlike quality later.

I would like to tie that last observation in with @msf22b , but fear that is when things get political.

Sorry, but this is totally comparing apples and oranges. Nomads didn’t go to school, have to make decisions about whether to work or continue studying, have to choose a profession, decide whether to learn a new language, decide whether what they were hearing or seeing was factual, etc., etc. If you really are interested in this topic, use a villager in Benin, who still today has a life expectancy of 35 and increasingly has to make the same kind of life decisions as an American teenager.

 

[CL82]

250,000 motorcyclists were in South Dakota for a week, the vast majority jammed together without masks. This is not an issue confined to young people.

Lol, college kids don't have a monopoly on shortsightedness, but they definitely are a major shareholder.

 

[soxfan23]

Duly noted but to compound this situation at UConn, it was in an HONORS dorm that the party occurred. Most of these knuckleheads were given 1 person per room priority and usually have some form academic scholarship. The unfortunate news for the parents is the money is NOT refundable. So yeah, I am sort of with the majority here that these "young adults" were dolts and deserve what they got. The school is still reviewing the footage to expel more of these students from the dorm. In theory, the Honors students are supposed to be leaders...

Don't confuse being an "Honors student" with intelligence or leadership.

 

[JonathanXIV]

Duly noted but to compound this situation at UConn, it was in an HONORS dorm that the party occurred. Most of these knuckleheads were given 1 person per room priority and usually have some form academic scholarship. The unfortunate news for the parents is the money is NOT refundable. So yeah, I am sort of with the majority here that these "young adults" were dolts and deserve what they got. The school is still reviewing the footage to expel more of these students from the dorm. In theory, the Honors students are supposed to be leaders...

The issue is not whether these students were "dolts." We can agree that they were. My point is not every college student is a "dolt," and that there are more than enough "dolts" among adults without a need to pile on college students.

 

[Steve UConn72]

Went into the Army Security Agency in 1964 at 18 feeling my father knew nothing. Got out in 1968 at 22 and realized my father was very smart. Amazing how when you learn to grow up and take responsibility how your parents get smarter.

One of my favorite quotes - Mark Twain says that at seventeen he could scarcely endure his father, the old gentleman was so ignorant; at twenty he noticed that his father said a sensible thing occasionally; at twenty-five he was astonished at the improvement his father had made in the last eight years