UCONN - SJU post-game thread [merged]

[Carnac]

Remember folks. The statistics that often standout the most and in some cases, the best, aren't always on the UCONN side of the scorecard. In my opinion, for last evening's game, one of the "Biggest" statistics was on the St. John's ledger, where their best scorer was essentially "Shut Down" by UCONN's more prolific and BEST defensive player, Aubrey Griffin. Aubrey doesn't necessarily have to have great offensive numbers, to have a "GREAT GAME". Yes, she only scored 6 points and yes, she passed up some 3 pointers that she 'could have' taken. BUT, she deferred to others on her team to take up the scoring and concentrated on the defensive assignment she was given by the Coaching Staff and she did one GREAT JOB doing it. Yes, we have AE, LLP, Dorka and now Azzi being back, but I feel that this season's UCONN Team would be in a "Heap of Serious Trouble" if we didn't have Aubrey Griffin out on the court.

CONNCAN, I nominate this comment as our POD (Post of the day). You highlighted some salient points that some fans/interested observers don't understand or overlook. The job Griffin did on SJ's leading scorer was HUGE!!! As you mentioned did not necessarily show up in the box score.

The coaches and the players knew what she did. Shutting down their leading scorer did as much to help win the game as scoring 30 points would have. In short, Griffin made her "disapear." Everyone had a job to do last night. The coaches made sure each player knew their assignment. Everyone's assingment was different. Griffin will have a different assignment Sunday against Georgetown. Great post Conncan!!!

 

[Bone Dog]

I’d like to see Inês play more mins, too. But I expect Geno and CD were very upfront with her about what the p/t priorities would be this year. I doubt she’s surprised, even if she wants to play more. Also, in a presser last week, CD mentioned something about the pressure on Inês when she played a lot in earlier games, so more minutes may be a mixed blessing for her.

 

[Bone Dog]

CONNCAN, I nominate this comment as our POD (Post of the day). You highlighted some salient points that some fans/interested observers don't understand or overlook. The job Griffin did on SJ's leading scorer was HUGE!!! As you mentioned did not necessarily show up in the box score.

The coaches and the players knew what she did. Shutting down their leading scorer did as much to help win the game as scoring 30 points would have. In short, Griffin made her "disapear." Everyone had a job to do last night. The coaches made sure each player knew their assignment. Everyone's assingment was different. Griffin will have a different assignment Sunday against Georgetown. Great post Conncan!!!

In yesterdays in-game chat, someone (I won’t say it was me) said early on after Everett scored 8 points: “Put Aubrey on her. She’ll fix it.” And sure enough…

 

[Bald Husky]

Certainly, Ines has improved since arriving at UConn. But I don’t know that she’s ready for significant prime time minutes just yet. Her average of 10+ mpg has as much to do with UConn being shorthanded in the backcourt as anything to do with great ball handling skills with her level of play.

Last night, Ines got only 3 minutes of PT. Also last night, UConn had Azzi available for the first time in 5 weeks, along with Nika & Lou. As much as we all want to see Ines earn more PT, I’m pretty sure the plan against a good SJ team was to give the majority of PT to the 3 veterans, and get them used to playing together again.

As much as we all like Ines, I don’t see her PT increasing so long as UConn is relatively healthy. Once Caroline is back, UConn will have 4 talented, veteran guards available. In that situation, Ines will most likely be confined to late game PT during mop up time.

First of all, as we have seen, Caroline is not a guard with great ball handling skills, and I hate to say this, with her history this year who knows when she will be back and how competent she will be. Same with Lou, as far as ball handling, so Nika, Azzi, and Ines are the guards to bring up the ball and break presses. We want Azzi, Lou, and Caroline to look for their shot, not looking to pass as a point guard. Granted, Ines isn't as good as the other players, but she will be needed at some point and the more she plays the better she will be. Blowouts, come on, this is where she can practice for a big moment that may come our way going forward.

 

[Geew1992]

In yesterdays in-game chat, someone (I won’t say it was me) said early on after Everett scored 8 points: “Put Aubrey on her. She’ll fix it.” And sure enough…

Smart's someone

 

[Fossil]

Aubrey was completely invisible?! I think you need to watch the team play defense. She held their best player scoreless for almost three quarters.

I went to the game and agree completely about Aubrey. She completely shut down their best shooter and probably their second best shooter at one point Aubrey denied her the ball so completely that the St. John’s player just stood in the corner not even attempting to move without the ball yes, maybe it affected Aubrey’s offense but she clearly Contributed in a big way. She may have seemed invisible, because the camera goes to the shooter and the people making the play, which was not the player Aubrey was guarding.

 

[Bone Dog]

First of all, as we have seen, Caroline is not a guard with great ball handling skills, and I hate to say this, with her history this year who knows when she will be back and how competent she will be. Same with Lou, as far as ball handling, so Nika, Azzi, and Ines are the guards to bring up the ball and break presses. We want Azzi, Lou, and Caroline to look for their shot, not looking to pass as a point guard. Granted, Ines isn't as good as the other players, but she will be needed at some point and the more she plays the better she will be. Blowouts, come on, this is where she can practice for a big moment that may come our way going forward.

Good assessment of Caroline and Lou. They can both handle the ball well enough, even bring it up the floor. But handles is not their superpower, and there are better uses for them than this. Azzi is that rare mix of a shooter with awesome handles, the best on the team by quite a margin. This came in handy against the Texas press. But again I don’t think this is the best use of her other skills. Nika’s handles are good, better than Inês’, but both of them can make mistakes when pressed. This just means helping them out occasionally.

 

[Bald Husky]

I went to the game and agree completely about Aubrey. She completely shut down their best shooter and probably their second best shooter at one point Aubrey denied her the ball so completely that the St. John’s player just stood in the corner not even attempting to move without the ball yes, maybe it affected Aubrey’s offense but she clearly Contributed in a big way. She may have seemed invisible, because the camera goes to the shooter and the people making the play, which was not the player Aubrey was guarding.

I had to laugh, as I also noticed a play going on in and around the paint, and while this was happening, the St Johns player was just standing in the corner with Aubrey staring her down, with that player acting like a by stander. Aubrey never took her eyes off that player, completely locked in. Now, that is defensive intensity.

 

[Greenfan]

Our first in person UCONN game. Here are my impression, no xs and os, others take care of that very well.

We saw most boxes checked;

Geno back on the sideline, Azzi in the game, solid win, low turnovers, good defense.
Lots of UCONN fans, which we noted when standing before the tip- off and until the first score.

Dorka was definitely shortchanged one assist.

One ref was a bit whistle happy.

There was a row of screaming little girl basketball players, St.Johns fans, behind us, they were kind of ear piercingly loud, but still added to the excitement.

UBS Arena is a brand new and beautiful venue, easy access,( 1.5 hour drive for us), train access from east and west. Well marked directional signs and helpful staff.

Got home a little before midnight, rare for us as we get up before 6, but went to sleep happy.

 

[oldude]

First of all, as we have seen, Caroline is not a guard with great ball handling skills, and I hate to say this, with her history this year who knows when she will be back and how competent she will be. Same with Lou, as far as ball handling, so Nika, Azzi, and Ines are the guards to bring up the ball and break presses. We want Azzi, Lou, and Caroline to look for their shot, not looking to pass as a point guard. Granted, Ines isn't as good as the other players, but she will be needed at some point and the more she plays the better she will be. Blowouts, come on, this is where she can practice for a big moment that may come our way going forward.

The decision on how much prime time PT to give Ines really comes down to the Big Dance, and whether or not she’ll be a contributor against the gauntlet of NCAA playoff teams the Huskies will face. With everyone healthy, UConn has a solid 7 player rotation. After that, Geno will try to coach up Amari or Ayanna, or both to provide depth against the towering frontlines of SC & Stanford, should UConn run into them in the Tournament.

While I love Ines’s work ethic and attitude, I just don’t see her as a viable alternative against the ball pressure she would face vs many of the top defenses in the Big Dance just yet. If that should change, I will be ecstatic.

 

[donalddoowop]

The decision on how much prime time PT to give Ines really comes down to the Big Dance, and whether or not she’ll be a contributor against the gauntlet of NCAA playoff teams the Huskies will face. With everyone healthy, UConn has a solid 7 player rotation. After that, Geno will try to coach up Amari or Ayanna, or both to provide depth against the towering frontlines of SC & Stanford, should UConn run into them in the Tournament.

While I love Ines’s work ethic and attitude, I just don’t see her as a viable alternative against the ball pressure she would face vs many of the top defenses in the Big Dance just yet. If that should change, I will be ecstatic.

We will never know if she does not get the chance. Maryland is a good team and she handled herself well in that game.

 

[OldSchooler]

Amari's A:TO ratio (3:1) was impressive, and each of those assists was a beaut. She looks good passing from the high post. But c'mon, on those rare occasions when she shakes free under the basket, that layup has to be an automatic. If, as Husky Nan says, Amari comes in as more an offensive than a defensive player, she has to be able to convert a layup opportunity 100% of the time.

 

[oldude]

We will never know if she does not get the chance. Maryland is a good team and she handled herself well in that game.

Ines will certainly get chances to play in BE games, and she is being evaluated every day in practice. I don’t expect to see her in either the TN or SC games, unless they are blowouts or someone is injured. Beyond that, I truly hope that I am mistaken about Ines, and she is able to earn Geno’s trust this season to play meaningful minutes in big games.

 

[dtbtbtb]

was there a UConn presser?

 

[huskeynut]

Thing is when Azzi is completly back Aubrey goes back to the bench and when Caroline comes back she'll be behind her

Aubrey will go back to the bench but I don't see her behind Caroline. First, they are two different players with different skill sets. Aubrey is faster and quicker. She is the slasher on the fast break. She can drive and take it to the hole. And an excellent defender and rebounder. Caroline is the 3 point gunner who can also take it to the hole. She's a good rebounder and defender.

There will be more than enough minutes for both players. Game situations will always dictate substitution patterns.

 

[OldSchooler]

UConn’s game at Creighton was sold out (I was there). At their game against Seton Hall tonight, it was less than half full. That for a team that made the Elite Eight last year. Really disgusting.

Next week's game at Seton Hall is sold out.

 

[jazz]

Dorka was great again. She is close to AA material. If she had a bit more explosion and quickness....
well, anyway she has been really good this year. Hitting that outside shot has been really crucial and will be against top teams. She will need to bring out the post players which will open things up underneath and for backdoor cutters.

AE - very solid game, but will she be able to avoid fouls against top level teams?

- an amazing shooter and love that she is calling for the ball. I think she can go for 20 -25 pts on any given night, against anybody. Just got to get her open and keep her moving. When they overplay, go backdoor and/or take them to the bucket. Nice first game back.

Lou - she is better than I ever imagined. We could have used her last year and it would have made a big difference. Teams will find it tough not giving her or any room to shoot. Terrific player..wish she was a bit more physical and could get a few more rebounds- particularly on the offensive side.

NM - really good game and continues to show the boneyard that she can hit a layup. Great defense and really shows command on the team every time out. Now I must admit that I am getting a bit concerned with her FTs. She is a lot better than last year's percentage shows but not the 75% FT shooter I thought and hoped she would be. I think she is stuck on 65% or so and that isn't good enough for a guard that will be playing almost the entire game. We will have close games and the ball will be in her hands...I feel good about her decision making and even her 3 pt shooting, but now I get a little worries when she is at the FT line.

AG - great defensive game.

Amari - I'm not as high on her as some. She has some good attributes and passing is one of them. More often than not, she is caught watching and not moving her feet, leading to easy buckets for the opposition and fouls on Amari. It is hard to get out of this habit.

 

[Bone Dog]

Aubrey will go back to the bench but I don't see her behind Caroline. First, they are two different players with different skill sets. Aubrey is faster and quicker. She is the slasher on the fast break. She can drive and take it to the hole. And an excellent defender and rebounder. Caroline is the 3 point gunner who can also take it to the hole. She's a good rebounder and defender.

There will be more than enough minutes for both players. Game situations will always dictate substitution patterns.

You hit the nail on the head. Caroline is better in the half court offense. Aubrey is the core of the transition game. We can still run when she’s on the bench, but it’s not quite so devastating… or awe inspiring. And a team needs to inspire a little awe occasionally. Aubrey’s D is more suffocating than Caroline’s, at least in ball denial mode and on the perimeter. But Caroline can shut people down in the paint and passes out of rebounds and steals better.

 

[dcheng021]

The same for Aaliyah and Lou. Throw Nika in there as well and there is still time for Azzi.

Don’t forget Aubrey!

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I just watched a game highlights video (stupidly did not copy the address) and was certainly impressed with Azzi's level of performance in her first game back. It's still a knee injury and you have to put aside that fear of reinjury. Terrific job. However in a supremely balanced Husky game the Husky who impressed me the most was Dorka. She was so steady, so calm and grounded, and she demonstrated her full range of versatility on the floor. Loved the way she came to play.

 

[hoy-ah!]

First of all, as we have seen, Caroline is not a guard with great ball handling skills, and I hate to say this, with her history this year who knows when she will be back and how competent she will be. Same with Lou, as far as ball handling, so Nika, Azzi, and Ines are the guards to bring up the ball and break presses. We want Azzi, Lou, and Caroline to look for their shot, not looking to pass as a point guard. Granted, Ines isn't as good as the other players, but she will be needed at some point and the more she plays the better she will be. Blowouts, come on, this is where she can practice for a big moment that may come our way going forward.

Agreed!!! There is only one guard on the team that can do it all - Paige B. And, she's out for the season. The back up to Nika is Ines. Give Ines meaningful minutes once the starters have "gelled" during the game, and the outcome of the game is not necessarily in question. Or maybe when the game is still being contested? Each player and group needs to be tested...seasoned. If Ines could play vs. UMd, she should see more minutes. Hopefully, Ines goes against Nika in practice. This will hone her skills and smarts. But!, games are different than practice.

The point guard spot is the most important position in bball, sets the offense and defense. Why not have two capable individuals at the position? Nika being out of a game for foul trouble (or...The word that cannot be uttered...) diminishes the team's capability. I could see Azzi shifting to the PG spot, as her play is similar to PB. This takes away from her natural 2 spot though.

Glad to see a more complete and clean game against St Johns. Dorka and Nika looked more comfortable with their offense, not hesitating. Let's see it transfer to Aubrey and Ines.

 

[Gus Mahler]

The St.John's players for all of the now 3 years that they have been playing UConn back in the Big East are not used to the "exposure" that that entails. I did a quick look back at the SJU attendance during the past two year (2020-21 was COVID impacted without fans) and as I said earlier in this thread, this year they are averaging 343 fans at home. Last week at Seton Hall in Walsh, 1,000 fans showed up which was the largest, by far of the season. Last year, for the 10 home games that had fans, they averaged 406.3 which includes the 945 that went to Carnesecca Arena on Campus to see UConn. So when the question was posed to the players about the atmosphere AT HOME, these players had never experienced this type of support of 2,910 fans. I too, can be jaded when viewing how other teams support or don't support their teams but COVID and a few poor seasons have really hurt SJU. I do hope they continue to partner with this new arena and have a few games, including UConn at this venue to garner more fans. One last point, the mid-court seats for 12 rows are all corporate seats that those entities are not allowed to resell so they either have to give them away (and be pro-active about that) or they will be unused like last night. SJU said they would try to get UBS Arena to help communicate to those sponsors to get those seats filled in the future.

I was fortunate enough to get to meet the SJU AD and even the coach's wife (I had met Joe T earlier this year) and to put a human element to other teams is such a nice feeling (and empathetic aspect ) that I can't help but root for the "Johnny's" going forward.

Good post.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

First of all, as we have seen, Caroline is not a guard with great ball handling skills, and I hate to say this, with her history this year who knows when she will be back and how competent she will be. Same with Lou, as far as ball handling, so Nika, Azzi, and Ines are the guards to bring up the ball and break presses. We want Azzi, Lou, and Caroline to look for their shot, not looking to pass as a point guard. Granted, Ines isn't as good as the other players, but she will be needed at some point and the more she plays the better she will be. Blowouts, come on, this is where she can practice for a big moment that may come our way going forward.

She was needed in that Princeton game! That was a big moment already.

 

[Carnac]

Our first in person UCONN game. Here are my impression, no xs and os, others take care of that very well.

We saw most boxes checked;

Geno back on the sideline, Azzi in the game, solid win, low turnovers, good defense.
Lots of UCONN fans, which we noted when standing before the tip- off and until the first score.

Dorka was definitely shortchanged one assist.

One ref was a bit whistle happy.

There was a row of screaming little girl basketball players, St.Johns fans, behind us, they were kind of ear piercingly loud, but still added to the excitement.

UBS Arena is a brand new and beautiful venue, easy access,( 1.5 hour drive for us), train access from east and west. Well marked directional signs and helpful staff.

Got home a little before midnight, rare for us as we get up before 6, but went to sleep happy.

Great report Greenfan, thanks. You saw a different game than those little girls did. I'm jealous. I wish I could have been there too. Watching games on TV is nothing like being there in person.

 

[Bills Fan]

"I feel like the knee is a lot more serious than my foot last year ... but I wanted to make sure I was really ready," Fudd said. " ... I didn't rush into it. I let my body get back into things at its own pace. So I felt good out there today."

"They're really a fun group to be around and I think once we get Carol (Ducharme) back and Ayanna back in the mix, it's just going to add to where we're going, what we're working towards," Dailey said. "So I just think everybody's in a good place now."

UConn women's basketball routs St. John's in return of Azzi Fudd, Geno Auriemma: 'Sense of excitement'

The UConn women's basketball team defeated St. John's as Azzi Fudd and Geno Auriemma returned for the fourth-ranked Huskies.

www.ctinsider.com

Picture 4 from the article is the 3rd "foul???" on Aaliyah , a terrible call by the ref

 

[Carnac]

I just watched a game highlights video (stupidly did not copy the address) and was certainly impressed with Azzi's level of performance in her first game back. It's still a knee injury and you have to put aside that fear of reinjury. Terrific job. However in a supremely balanced Husky game the Husky who impressed me the most was Dorka. She was so steady, so calm and grounded, and she demonstrated her full range of versatility on the floor. Loved the way she came to play.

Most nights, two players can carry a team to victory. UConn has 4-5 players capable of carring the team on any given night. Saturday it might be Aubrey and Azzi, or Lou and Dorka, or Nika and Aaliyah.

Everyone is NOT "on" every night. Remember the game Azzi went 1-8? Some nights the basket looks the size of a hoola hoop, other nights the size of a Cheerie O. Lou is one of the most steady and consistent players we have, but sometimes the rim tightens up for her too, and someone else has to take the baton and run with it.

All we can do is hope they are "ON" most of the time. Some teams only have 1-2 "go-to" players. We have six. The others are role players. Their "roles" are just as important as the go-to players (scorers). Any coach will tell you they don't need a team full of scorers. They need role players too. Everyone can't be a 25/15 a night player, but they can help the team in a support or back-up role.

I like our team and every player on it. Everyone knows their place on the team and wants to play and be ready to answer the bell when called. It's nice to see them root, cheer and suppot each other. Sometimes they all need a little understanding, love and support that fans and coaches can't give them.

 

[DEpup]

Certainly, Ines has improved since arriving at UConn. But I don’t know that she’s ready for significant prime time minutes just yet. Her average of 10+ mpg has as much to do with UConn being shorthanded in the backcourt as anything to do with her level of play.

Last night, Ines got only 3 minutes of PT. Also last night, UConn had Azzi available for the first time in 5 weeks, along with Nika & Lou. As much as we all want to see Ines earn more PT, I’m pretty sure the plan against a good SJ team was to give the majority of PT to the 3 veterans, and get them used to playing together again.

As much as we all like Ines, I don’t see her PT increasing so long as UConn is relatively healthy. Once Caroline is back, UConn will have 4 talented, veteran guards available. In that situation, Ines will most likely be confined to late game PT during mop up time.

I agree. Now I think if Nika plays 38 min and Ines 2 min in the upcoming Georgetown game then there I think you have a valid argument! Ines should be able to get at least 5 if not 8-10 min in that game....

 

[Charliebball]

I’d like to see Inês play more mins, too. But I expect Geno and CD were very upfront with her about what the p/t priorities would be this year. I doubt she’s surprised, even if she wants to play more. Also, in a presser last week, CD mentioned something about the pressure on Inês when she played a lot in earlier games, so more minutes may be a mixed blessing for her.

it's not as much about Ines or Amari playing more minutes as it is about Nika and Dorka not having to play 38-40 minutes in a game that became uncompetitive........

 

[Bills Fan]

The decision on how much prime time PT to give Ines really comes down to the Big Dance, and whether or not she’ll be a contributor against the gauntlet of NCAA playoff teams the Huskies will face. With everyone healthy, UConn has a solid 7 player rotation. After that, Geno will try to coach up Amari or Ayanna, or both to provide depth against the towering frontlines of SC & Stanford, should UConn run into them in the Tournament.

While I love Ines’s work ethic and attitude, I just don’t see her as a viable alternative against the ball pressure she would face vs many of the top defenses in the Big Dance just yet. If that should change, I will be ecstatic.

My point in post #88 is not really intended to focus on additional PT for Ines, but rather to make the point that in 30 point blowouts (and we'll have a few more of them coming up) we should not be putting the wear and tear of 38-9 minutes on Nika or Dorka. We have a lot of games coming up close together and why wear them down. In one of Geno's last post game interviews with Maria, he talked abolut how tired the kids were. If we are going to use starters almost the entire game when it is not needed to do so then we shouldn't be talking about tired players.
And yes a sidepoint in that post is that Ines can only improve by playing,

 

[DEpup]

Aubrey will go back to the bench but I don't see her behind Caroline. First, they are two different players with different skill sets. Aubrey is faster and quicker. She is the slasher on the fast break. She can drive and take it to the hole. And an excellent defender and rebounder. Caroline is the 3 point gunner who can also take it to the hole. She's a good rebounder and defender.

There will be more than enough minutes for both players. Game situations will always dictate substitution patterns.

I agree. With a healthy Azzi and Caroline at the 2/3 with Lou, I see Aubrey being able to give Aaliyah and Dorka a break at the 4. They can effectively play fast paced small ball for a period of time as a change up so Dorka and Aaliyah don’t have to play 40 min in a big game. Ayanna and Amari aren't ready for minutes in a big game but Aubrey is.