To play devils advocate most teams that lead in assist will also tend to lead in the turnover category just the way it is imo look at Golden State tremendous assist team year after year and they tend to turnover the ball in boat loads also at times ..
UCONN - Seton Hall post-game thread
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Aubrey was called on one of those travels.
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Love that minutes column. Nice job Coach.
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One could argue that today's game proved those posters right.. If anyone complains again about "Nika needing to score to keep defenses honest", I will metaphorically strangle them!
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It was a rather enjoyable game overall. I thought we had at least 6 players play well--those in double figures.
In terms of injuries, Aubrey got displaced on a rebound by Cooks. I didn't think it was a dirty play. Carol started to run when a Hall player had her foot pinned to the floor. Considering their recent surgeries and injuries, I was a little concerned, but both looked ok afterwards. Dorka and Nika looked fully recovered. Come on Azzi, join the fun!
Liya played like an All-American again. She is unstoppable on her drives and doesn't commit charges this year.
Nika shot the ball well and took it to the hoop for shots or passes. Her repertoire is expanded, which is a huge help. She also recorded double-figure assists again. Some were spectacular. She continues to lead the nation by a wide margin.
Aubrey is just too fast for anyone in WCBB. Whether in the full court or half court, she gets to the rim soooo fast. She also is a master of offensive rebounds.
Dorka looked solid across the board. Nice overall game. She uses her length well.
Lou was the focus of the defense, but she still managed 14 points on 10 shots and continues to shoot amazing percentage. She IS a bucket.
Caroline looked the best she has all season. She shot the 3, cut to the basket, defended, and rebounded.
Ayanna, Amari, and Ines all made some nice plays, but also joined in the turnover parade. Ayanna has trouble scoring, but she is shooting .857 on FTs, trailing only Lou and Azzi. She was 2-2 today, and neither shot used much rim.
I agree with CD--this was a good way to go on Christmas break. Let's come back and win at Creighton. Merry Christmas to all!
In terms of injuries, Aubrey got displaced on a rebound by Cooks. I didn't think it was a dirty play. Carol started to run when a Hall player had her foot pinned to the floor. Considering their recent surgeries and injuries, I was a little concerned, but both looked ok afterwards. Dorka and Nika looked fully recovered. Come on Azzi, join the fun!
Liya played like an All-American again. She is unstoppable on her drives and doesn't commit charges this year.
Nika shot the ball well and took it to the hoop for shots or passes. Her repertoire is expanded, which is a huge help. She also recorded double-figure assists again. Some were spectacular. She continues to lead the nation by a wide margin.
Aubrey is just too fast for anyone in WCBB. Whether in the full court or half court, she gets to the rim soooo fast. She also is a master of offensive rebounds.
Dorka looked solid across the board. Nice overall game. She uses her length well.
Lou was the focus of the defense, but she still managed 14 points on 10 shots and continues to shoot amazing percentage. She IS a bucket.
Caroline looked the best she has all season. She shot the 3, cut to the basket, defended, and rebounded.
Ayanna, Amari, and Ines all made some nice plays, but also joined in the turnover parade. Ayanna has trouble scoring, but she is shooting .857 on FTs, trailing only Lou and Azzi. She was 2-2 today, and neither shot used much rim.
I agree with CD--this was a good way to go on Christmas break. Let's come back and win at Creighton. Merry Christmas to all!
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Aubrey is that magical combination of fast and tall. Some smaller guards can out-quick her with a twitchy first step, but I don't think anyone can beat her down the court. And when she arrives at the rim with a pass Nika has miraculously floated into her hands, there's no stopping her.
As for turnovers, I'm not particularly worried about them. Yeah, we need to improve in that area. But I think we have time in our conference schedule to iron out those wrinkles. I think they are largely a result of the injury parade -- the girls got put through the discombobulator and lost a bit of their mental focus. I expect when they get a few more uncontroversial games under their belts, they'll be humming like that familiar sports car.
Didn't they score something like 150 points today? That testifies to an underlying strength that isn't going away because of a few mistakes.
As for turnovers, I'm not particularly worried about them. Yeah, we need to improve in that area. But I think we have time in our conference schedule to iron out those wrinkles. I think they are largely a result of the injury parade -- the girls got put through the discombobulator and lost a bit of their mental focus. I expect when they get a few more uncontroversial games under their belts, they'll be humming like that familiar sports car.
Didn't they score something like 150 points today? That testifies to an underlying strength that isn't going away because of a few mistakes.
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Hey KID, get off my lawn! Sorry Monte as I said, I was at the game and I honestly don’t recall any excessive flopping to cause you such consternation. I recall a couple but not so egregious to get even slightly annoyed. Cheer up, it’s Christmas!
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I seem to recall Lou having a particularly unpersuasive flop. I think it's a good sign that we suck at flopping.Hey KID, get off my lawn! Sorry Monte as I said, I was at the game and I honestly don’t recall any excessive flopping to cause you such consternation. I recall a couple but not so egregious to get even slightly annoyed. Cheer up, it’s Christmas!
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I might be mistaken but didn't Inês & Ayanna actually get in the game when it mattered. Getting to experience the game with the primary players and having the pressure of being a contributor before the game has been decided?
Well, maybe the writing was on the wall. . . But still.
I personally have wanted the players who aren't quite ready yet to get in the game with 3-4 of the best players just a few minutes at a time, so they actually get to experience the reality,so they understand why they have to work harder and smarter.
Perhaps, that was why Ayanna seemed to struggle today. Just letting my thoughts appear on the page.
Well, maybe the writing was on the wall. . . But still.
I personally have wanted the players who aren't quite ready yet to get in the game with 3-4 of the best players just a few minutes at a time, so they actually get to experience the reality,so they understand why they have to work harder and smarter.
Perhaps, that was why Ayanna seemed to struggle today. Just letting my thoughts appear on the page.
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that's true, but uconn has had far too many travels, illegal screens, even 3-second calls -- failures that are mostly inexcusable.
also, they don't seem as sure-handed as in the past: dropping good passes and fumbling the ball general. that kind of thing is inevitable occasionally, it seems to be happening
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AP has been consistently listed as 6'2", but I agree she doesnt look/play that tall. She reminds me a lot of Gabby Williams in terms of athleticism. She needs to develop her offensive game a lot more if she expects to get major minutes with this stacked lineup. Some kind of post-move or at least a mid-range jumpshot. As the #4 overall recruit & Geno's praises this summer, she definitely has the potential.
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- CD's best game this year. She looked more fluid with her shot and just overall movements.
- Lou continues to amaze with her productivity - shooting at a 50+% clip from the perimeter over major minutes is impressive.
- AE definitely should get All-American consideration at this point. Actually has similar/slightly better per-game numbers than Boston, and she is doing it with major minutes and double/triple coverage sometimes.
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Yes, because it was blatant. She travels almost every time she gets the handoff that starts a great many sets. Seems like it should be an easy fix but....
One of the notes about Aubrey also is that when she gets a rebound within 6-8 feet she turns away from the basket to pass it out. All she needs is one dribble right or left and a jump shot or no dribble at all.
The turnovers are baffling at times. Just please make the safe pass, go through, get a good shot each possession and don't worry about anything else. At our team shooting percentage, if we have 10 less turnovers a game, which is realistic (it would have been a total of 12 today) and assuming we get a shot on 8 of those possessions we get a minimum of 8 x .527 or 4 baskets or at least 8.25 points more per game. Since we average about 84 points now that increases our points by approximately 10%, highly significant as we get into March. Listen, we can score and with Azzi coming back you have 3 bona fide killers from the arc, including CD( yes, she is ) and Lou. To me, that is key right now, no more sloppiness with the ball.
Caroline had her best game this year but she is not all the way back. When she is, you will see a machine out there. She has not been successful with her pull up much this year. That will come last but makes her a very tough out.
I see Nika as one of the. best PGs in the country right now and improving every game. Today was just great for her and she looked like an AA out there. Her assist numbers are gaudy. How great to be a big with the ball in her hands on the break? Just run, she will find you.
Who worked with Aaliyah over the summer? Whoever it was, what an incredible job not to mention Leah's dedication. Just a different player. That drive to the left and finish with the left hand was spectacular.
I know many of us love Ines but she is only a freshman and has to get rid of certain habits. First you don't pick up your dribble without knowing where you are passing it. Secondly, less dribbling is better and she will develop more speed with the ball on the front of the break as she gets stronger.
I think in general we just need tightening. Now we know the current team and rotation. If we stay healthy we get better exponentially. We played really well today except for some periods of "unfocus" and we get to heal more with the week off before the January onslaught. Like I said in a prior post, we are coming together. We have a lot of talent and some real surprises this year in Lou, Aaliyah and Nika. Feeling very sanguine about our chances this year despite everything.
The turnovers are baffling at times. Just please make the safe pass, go through, get a good shot each possession and don't worry about anything else. At our team shooting percentage, if we have 10 less turnovers a game, which is realistic (it would have been a total of 12 today) and assuming we get a shot on 8 of those possessions we get a minimum of 8 x .527 or 4 baskets or at least 8.25 points more per game. Since we average about 84 points now that increases our points by approximately 10%, highly significant as we get into March. Listen, we can score and with Azzi coming back you have 3 bona fide killers from the arc, including CD( yes, she is ) and Lou. To me, that is key right now, no more sloppiness with the ball.
Caroline had her best game this year but she is not all the way back. When she is, you will see a machine out there. She has not been successful with her pull up much this year. That will come last but makes her a very tough out.
I see Nika as one of the. best PGs in the country right now and improving every game. Today was just great for her and she looked like an AA out there. Her assist numbers are gaudy. How great to be a big with the ball in her hands on the break? Just run, she will find you.
Who worked with Aaliyah over the summer? Whoever it was, what an incredible job not to mention Leah's dedication. Just a different player. That drive to the left and finish with the left hand was spectacular.
I know many of us love Ines but she is only a freshman and has to get rid of certain habits. First you don't pick up your dribble without knowing where you are passing it. Secondly, less dribbling is better and she will develop more speed with the ball on the front of the break as she gets stronger.
I think in general we just need tightening. Now we know the current team and rotation. If we stay healthy we get better exponentially. We played really well today except for some periods of "unfocus" and we get to heal more with the week off before the January onslaught. Like I said in a prior post, we are coming together. We have a lot of talent and some real surprises this year in Lou, Aaliyah and Nika. Feeling very sanguine about our chances this year despite everything.
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Not so. The last two games the opponent has scored 18 points off turnovers. A turnover is a lost possession, a lost opportunity to score and an opportunity for the opponent to score.
Most of the turnovers result from really awful passes. Some of them coming from Muhl. I have never seen such a poor passing UConn team as this one.
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I suggested "baby steps" forward for Caroline would be sufficient
Those were awfully big baby steps.
A rejuvenated Caroline makes the team that much harder to play.
Good win...will be a good feeling coming back from the holidays
Those were awfully big baby steps.
A rejuvenated Caroline makes the team that much harder to play.
Good win...will be a good feeling coming back from the holidays
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100%. The defensive strategy for Seton Hall was to deny, take her out of the game and let every other guard beat them. They swarmed her everytime she touched the ball and decided to leave Nika open until Nika she made them play, which opened up the floor.I've read somewhere Lou gets the benefit of having Azzi on the floor...did Nika and Caroline get the benefit of having Lou on the floor today?
Nika's play was huge and shows just how diverse she can be. Her shot looked great but more importantly, she knew she needed to take them, if left open. CD prepped this team accordingly.
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No, I don't necessarily mean FLOPPING....just falling down, or bumped down.Hey KID, get off my lawn! Sorry Monte as I said, I was at the game and I honestly don’t recall any excessive flopping to cause you such consternation. I recall a couple but not so egregious to get even slightly annoyed. Cheer up, it’s Christmas!