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temery said:
This Hurley GOAT stuff still cracks me up. He's had two consecutive championship seasons with an otherwise unspectacular tournament record. Did he ever get past the first round before 2023?

Do I think he's capable of continued success at UConn, absolutely. HOF - yes, absolutely. JC level success, yep.

But get back to me in ten years with this goat talk.
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The word "otherwise" is doing a lot of work here
 
Inyatkin said:
The word "otherwise" is doing a lot of work here
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Correct. His wiki page has his tournament record as 14-4. The 14 is seven wins in '23 and seven wins in '24. If this is correct, he never won a tournament game until '23.
 
temery said:
Correct. His wiki page has his tournament record as 14-4. The 14 is seven wins in '23 and seven wins in '24. If this is correct, he never won a tournament game until '23.
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Yikes, you should probably learn how many games it takes to win the tournament before you decide to post in a thread about an otherwise lack of success in the tournament.
 
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I hate to brag about our 5 stars because I have always hated Duke for stockpiling and reloading them every year. But that said they have usually been doing it with many top 10 five stars.
It’s great we have guys with the chops but most importantly players who will take to the coaching and do whatever it takes to win rather than pad stats.
It’s just a great thing to know we will be in the top tier of teams mix going forward every year. I dont take that for granted.
 
superjohn said:
Yikes, you should probably learn how many games it takes to win the tournament before you decide to post in a thread about an otherwise lack of success in the tournament.
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Yikes! Otherwise lack of success in the tournament isn't debatable, it's a fact.

Two wins with four losses outside of '23 and '24, along with not qualifying for the tournament more often than not, isn't even close to GOAT level coaching.

Donovan won back to back and had far more success than Hurley at this point in his career. Anyone here consider him as GOAT?
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
As Donyell and RIP are also missing, I'm thinking the starting point must be around 2000 or so.
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Correct - 2003 commit is the earliest shown in their top 25. That's Charlie Villanueva.

I suspect it's due to this:

Founded in 2010 and acquired by CBS Interactive in December 2015, 247Sports creates innovative and unique technology and data-driven products designed for more engaging consumption of team-specific sports news, like the Crystal Ball prediction engine, the 247Sports Composite Rankings and the Internet’s best Player Database.
 
temery said:
Changes nothing. Two wins with four losses outside of '23 and '24, along with not qualifying for the tournament more often than not isn't even close to GOAT level coaching.
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Why are we doing this after a night when Auriemmia became the GOAT and literally had a goat there?!?!?
 
temery said:
Changes nothing. Two wins with four losses outside of '23 and '24, along with not qualifying for the tournament more often than not isn't even close to GOAT level coaching.
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At least you learned he's won tournament games outside of the past two seasons and you learned how many games it takes to win the tournament.
 
JerseyAlum said:
Why are we doing this after a night when Auriemmia became the GOAT and literally had a goat there?!?!?
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As Geno said it's an entirely different sport. He can lay claim to best women's college basketball coach ever.
 
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temery said:
This Hurley GOAT stuff still cracks me up. He's had two consecutive championship seasons with an otherwise unspectacular tournament record. Did he ever get past the first round before 2023?

Do I think he's capable of continued success at UConn, absolutely. HOF - yes, absolutely. JC level success, yep.

But get back to me in ten years with this goat talk.
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New generation GOAT is fair for now. Certainly not in overall GOAT conversation. 3 peat does put him firmly in it though.
 
superjohn said:
As Geno said it's an entirely different sport. He can lay claim to best women's college basketball coach ever.
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NCAA says otherwise. Most college basketball wins of all time, different sport or not.
 
superjohn said:
At least you learned he's won tournament games outside of the past two seasons and you learned how many games it takes to win the tournament.
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You just can't pull off sarcasm, especially when your argument is stupid. Adding two wins to Hurley's record changes nothing as far as the GOAT argument is concerned.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
New generation GOAT is fair for now. Certainly not in overall GOAT conversation. 3 peat does put him firmly in it though.
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Can we outlaw the words 3 Peat here or at least make it a fine? It’s destructive Mojo.
 
temery said:
You just can't pull off sarcasm, especially when your argument is stupid. Adding two wins to Hurley's record changes nothing as far as the GOAT argument is concerned.
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Sarcasm? My argument?

Keep digging.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
New generation GOAT is fair for now. Certainly not in overall GOAT conversation. 3 peat does put him firmly in it though.
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New generation GOAT is some pretty silly cherrypicking. I agree if the clock starts with the portal, nobody is even close to Hurley. If he quit today, nobody will be adding Hurley to any GOAT discussions. That's pretty much my point.

If he stays at UConn for another ten years, I have zero doubt he'll be considered a top ~5 coach of all time.

Calhoun, Coach K, Wooden, Hurley, and a tie for 5th between a few coaches I can't remember (Probably two or three well ahead of Hurley at this point).

Anyone who adds Calipari to the list will be laughed out of the discussion.
 
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superjohn said:
Sarcasm? My argument?

Keep digging.
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I was being generous. Your argument is just plain dumb. I've admitted many times that I know very little about basketball, so I tend to rely on facts.
 
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Well this thread went into the dumpster fast.

Hurley is not the "Greatest of All Time" at anything. Probably not even "being a basketball coach as a member of the Hurley family". He's the GOTLTY men's college coach. The greatest of the last two years.

Geno is the GOAT women's college basketball coach.

Calhoun is also not the GOAT. He was incredible, a hall of fame coach. I think that's enough.
 
temery said:
I was being generous. Your argument is just plain dumb. I've admitted many times that I know very little about basketball, so I tend to rely on facts.

I also know there is no person "ignored" by more registered users, than you. I peaked at four.
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I made no Hurley is the greatest of all-time or new greatest of all-time argument. I used no sarcasm. You came into the thread to laugh at someone calling him the next generation GOAT. You then asked if Hurley has ever won a tournament game outside of the two national championships. You looked up his win total in NCAA tournaments and then said he's never won another NCAA tournament game outside of his two national championships. All I did was point out that you dunked on yourself.

We all know you know nothing about basketball and you're showing off you don't know what facts are either.

Congrats on your ignore count, remarkable achievement.
 
superjohn said:
I made no Hurley is the greatest of all-time or new greatest of all-time argument. I used no sarcasm. You came into the thread to laugh at someone calling him the next generation GOAT. You then asked if Hurley has ever won a tournament game outside of the two national championships. You looked up his win total in NCAA tournaments and then said he's never won another NCAA tournament game outside of his two national championships. All I did was point out that you dunked on yourself.

We all know you know nothing about basketball and you're showing off you don't know what facts are either.

Congrats on your ignore count, remarkable achievement.
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You are choosing to die on a hill about two wins over ~15 year, but agree about my Hurley/GOAT position. That pretty much defines 'silly argument.' It's one step dumber than grammar police.
 
temery said:
You are choosing to die on a hill about two wins over ~15 year, but agree about my Hurley/GOAT position. That pretty much defines 'silly argument.' It's one step dumber than grammar police.
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Again I made no argument about GOAT, New GOAT.

I just pointed out the fact that Hurley has won tournament games outside of his back to back.

You said you tend to rely on facts.
 
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superjohn said:
Yikes, you should probably learn how many games it takes to win the tournament before you decide to post in a thread about an otherwise lack of success in the tournament.
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You should really stop before you make a fool of yourself. Donovan was 35 and 20 at Marshall with no tournament appearances.
 
superjohn said:
Again I made no argument about GOAT, New GOAT.

I just pointed out the fact that Hurley has won tournament games outside of his back to back.

You said you tend to rely on facts.
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This has been fun. I'll let you have the last word.
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Ha Who said:
You should really stop before you make a fool of yourself. Donovan was 35 and 20 at Marshall with no tournament appearances.
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What?

Umbrellas are designed to keep people from getting wet.
 
temery said:
I was being generous. Your argument is just plain dumb. I've admitted many times that I know very little about basketball, so I tend to rely on facts.
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Cherry picked facts apparently using only one data point as a criteria. Your methodology is deeply flawed.
 
superjohn said:
What?

Umbrellas are designed to keep people from getting wet.
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The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But chiefly on the just, because
The unjust steals the just's umbrella

- Charles Bowen
 
Waquoit said:
Cherry picked facts apparently using only one data point as a criteria. Your methodology is deeply flawed.
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You'd have a point if your reply actually made sense.
 
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