I'm just making the point that the cost is the same between those 2 schools, but one is much better at gaming the USNWR rankings than the other is, which has increased the reputation of the one over the other.
What degree would that be? If you say nursing or engineering, then yes, but don't say computer science or mathematics, because I saw a presentation yesterday by someone who advised Philosophy over both and others.
My daughter wanted to be a nurse. Her 3 final accepted options were Southern, UConn, and Salve Regina. Guess where I sent her for that exact reason? It wasn't pretty to be disappointing her, but she came around. The lowest cost actually offered the best placement!
Yeah, I get wanting to go to school in Newport, sometimes you need to have a life lesson heart to heart and an enticement, lol, a but especially for Nursing, Southern is literally an employment feeder to Yale Health. And New Haven doesn't suck.
"He does his best work on the entertainment board................"
I can answer that one. Parents want to know that students are well positioned for employment when they graduate. In that vein, Northeastern's coop program is outstanding. Almost all students graduate having worked 2-3 6-month assignments, many getting job offers from one or more coop employers. Because they've been doing it for decades, they also have connections and allocated positions with a large number of employers. In the process the students get a lot of experience in building a resume, identifying marketable skills, interviewing, etc. It also helps the students decide whether the career path offered by their major is really what they want. My younger daughter's vision of her future changed significantly after a very good coop at Boston Children's Hospital.
Don't know about Southern in Salve Regina, but isn't Connecticut's nursing school pretty good. I feel like it's ranked 30th nationally?
NO.
You did NO such thing, and especially not "simply." You offered a hefty assertion with absolutely nothing to back it up. "Pointing out" requires some pointing. Add your sources, and we can shift to arguing about why you are so nasty toward (so-claimed) "slow people," rather than being generous and helpful.
This final mic drop got all the Likes it deserved.
This is where I think the argument goes off the rails. I agree with the idea that all educational opportunities should be analyzed in the context of relative return. I do not agree, however, that undergraduate education is "a commodity." That literally means there is no difference between one unit of an item and another so they can be bought interchangeably. In other words, just order "1 undergraduate education" and it is the same regardless of whether it's at Albertus Magnus or Harvard so best price quote rules. That is, of course, an extreme example, but I could pick any two schools and undergraduate educations (including non-academic criteria like student support services, campus environment, etc.) still wouldn't be interchangeable. Is UConn worth 0% more than Western, 10% more, 20%, 50%? It depends on the student, the program (I'm told Western is very good in the performing arts so, in that case it might be -10%), the family situation and a myriad of factors. That's not a commodity analysis.
The people paying $90k are very rich. They've already paid $60k a year for prep school. $90k isnt going to phase them
I said I was against USNWR. Not all.
I guess that depends on your definition of comfortable and who is making the final decision. I've seen lots of references to telling kids they should (in some cases must) go to the cheapest place, that an undergraduate education is a commodity, etc. I only know my own kids and their experiences. My youngest for instance, turned down a well over half tuition scholarship at my alma mater. While it pained me, she went to a school that she thought better fit her interests, scope of opportunities and emphasis on coop work experiences. It cost more but she was more comfortable and ended up in a place that she didn't expect and wouldn't have been available to her at my school. It was also in a location and was of a size that she preferred. In a trade-off between her comfort and mine hers won out and it worked. Fortunately, while it was a stretch I could afford it. Yes, I understand that's not always the case for many people, but when it can be done and there are credible reasons for the decision, the cheapest option may not be the best. Is that thought process limited to just 5-10% of the college-bound graduates? Perhaps, but I think that's excessively limiting.
