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UConn President Susan Herbst Talks Academics, Athletics And What Keeps Her Up At Night

Chief00 said:
I am plugged in.
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So you work at the car wash? I always thought that was you Chief... nice eyebrows btw... have an A1A day with Andre and the UConn bishes!
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whaler11 said:
You got me that time Mets. You’ve cut
it to 387-2.

It’s hilarious though watching y’all
follow her lead how she is resposible for nothing.
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I’m not suggesting she is not responsible for anything. I’m just saying that she understands what is important. That she made mistakes it is on her. But the mistakes were just bad decisions. Not coming from not caring or not understanding the stakes.
 
Don't let the door hit you in the arse as you walk out SH - take DB with you - please
UConn needs strong experienced leaders in both positions - that hasn't been the case in many years

That she made mistakes it is on her. But the mistakes were just bad decisions

Enough said in that statement
 
The thing that bothers me about the current situation is that with a new president coming in and perhaps a new AD as a result, UConn will then be led, once again, by people without the necessary cultivated connections to give the Huskies a shot at a P5 berth.
 
RSTuthill said:
The thing that bothers me about the current situation is that with a new president coming in and perhaps a new AD as a result, UConn will then be led, once again, by people without the necessary cultivated connections to give the Huskies a shot at a P5 berth.
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There's not evidence that AD Dave is going anywhere. I don't know what criteria they will use for the next pres but I doubt athletic connections will be one of them. We'll see.
 
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CL82 said:
There's not evidence that AC Dave is going anywhere. I don't know what criteria they will use for the next pres but I doubt athletic connections will be one of them. We'll see.
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There's a pretty good chance there will be a change at AZ State in the relatively brief time it will take for Herm Edwards to destroy what's left of their FB program. Since he was hired by their current AD, it's a pretty safe bet they'll be leaving together involuntarily. If that job opens up, Benedict will go for it.
 
UConnNick said:
Herm Edwards (will) destroy what's left of their FB program.
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That’s not what I’m hearing. There’s more optimism in Tempe after a bumpy start to his regime. Look for a competitive team with a few upsets over the better Pac12 teams. It’s more likely that Edwards will surprise his naysayers.
 
Chief00 said:
You are right on some things but you couldn’t be more wrong about the ACC.
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Yeah that's right, it's all the new UConn President's fault. Warde (Nero) Manuel was just an innocent bystander following her lead.
 
CL82 said:
There's not evidence that AD Dave is going anywhere. I don't know what criteria they will use for the next pres but I doubt athletic connections will be one of them. We'll see.
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This. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know the actual statistics, but I always find it amusing how people here trash SH because of our athletic situation while ignoring how much she elevated the University as a whole. Does our current situation look dire athletically, sure. However, that's not her number one priority. I know we want it to be, and that this is a sports message board, but many of you just ignore all the good she's done for this University. Losing her will be a big loss and I hope we find someone who will continue to move this University on a positive direction. Our state needs it more then ever right now.

Ok, all you SH haters can throw your numbers at me and tell me I'm wrong....:p
 
UCFBfan said:
Ok, all you SH haters can throw your numbers at me and tell me I'm wrong....:p
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Nope, no numbers. Just want to point out that message has not gotten through or been widely disseminated. The perception is that the initial rise in external R&D funding has not been sustained. That UConn is no closer to AAU membership than before. Are perceptions wrong?
 
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My biggest issues with Herbst have always been financial. You can't continue to skyrocket tuition at a state school ad infinitum without considering your core mission or your core population. State subsidy will (and has) run out at some point. And giving yourself a big raise in between tuition hikes was particularly ridiculous...
 
RSTuthill said:
Just want to point out that UConn is no closer to AAU membership than before.
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You think it’s easy? I spoke to SH on the subject. AAU membership (like a sorority) is by invitation only. There are only 62 schools in the club. And while many are looking to be invited, since 2002 only two schools have been admitted into the AAU. Just two!. Boston University in 2010 and Georgia Tech in 2012. That’s it. Nobody else. In fact during that same timeframe Nebraska was kicked out in 2011 and Syracuse withdrew in 2011 when it realized it no longer met the criteria and wanted to avoid the “Nebraska embarrassment”
At the risk of mixing metaphors, we were adrift in the AAU desert before Susan Herbst came on board. What she’s done to improve our chances has been extraordinary, and however elusive the invitation may be, the effort will go on.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Yeah that's right, it's all the new UConn President's fault. Warde (Nero) Manuel was just an innocent bystander following her lead.
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Conference Realignment is a Presidents’ club game, not the AD’s. Chief understand that’s a common misperception but the Presidents not the AD’s drive the realignment bus.
#ChiefCertified
 
Nostical said:
You think it’s easy? I spoke to SH on the subject. AAU membership (like a sorority) is by invitation only. There are only 62 schools in the club. And while many are looking to be invited, since 2002 only two schools have been admitted into the AAU. Just two!. Boston University in 2010 and Georgia Tech in 2012. That’s it. Nobody else. In fact during that same timeframe Nebraska was kicked out in 2011 and Syracuse withdrew in 2011 when it realized it no longer met the criteria and wanted to avoid the “Nebraska embarrassment”
At the risk of mixing metaphors, we were adrift in the AAU desert before Susan Herbst came on board. What she’s done to improve our chances has been extraordinary, and however elusive the invitation may be, the effort will go on.
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And we are making progress in AAU metrics. It is just a long way from where we were to where we want to be.
 
uconndogs said:
It’s getting weird Chief.
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I think you are at the point, where you just acknowledge your Casual Fandom, and let Chief dissect the complexities of CR. Enjoy the summer. Chief
 
Chief00 said:
Conference Realignment is a Presidents’ club game, not the AD’s. Chief understand that’s a common misperception but the Presidents not the AD’s drive the realignment bus.
#ChiefCertified
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Yet, the AD must do the work on the ground. It was Jurich's hard working efforts that positioned Louisville's admission the ACC. I have to agree with huskyrob1 here.
 
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Chief00 said:
Conference Realignment is a Presidents’ club game, not the AD’s. Chief understand that’s a common misperception but the Presidents not the AD’s drive the realignment bus.
#ChiefCertified
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That's why I knew that Suzie and her hair and make-up dog and pony show was going to bomb in the Big12 presentation with the good-old boys watching. What doesn't fit and Why?????
 
Bezzz said:
That's why I knew that Suzie and her hair and make-up dog and pony show was going to bomb in the Big12 presentation with the good-old boys watching. What doesn't fit and Why?????
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I know it was so frustrating when all the other candidates but us got accepted to Big 12! :rolleyes:
 
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Nostical said:
You think it’s easy? I spoke to SH on the subject. AAU membership (like a sorority) is by invitation only. There are only 62 schools in the club. And while many are looking to be invited, since 2002 only two schools have been admitted into the AAU. Just two!. Boston University in 2010 and Georgia Tech in 2012. That’s it. Nobody else. In fact during that same timeframe Nebraska was kicked out in 2011 and Syracuse withdrew in 2011 when it realized it no longer met the criteria and wanted to avoid the “Nebraska embarrassment”
At the risk of mixing metaphors, we were adrift in the AAU desert before Susan Herbst came on board. What she’s done to improve our chances has been extraordinary, and however elusive the invitation may be, the effort will go on.
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Of course it is not easy. There are benchmarks. But the general perception is that UConn's dashboard needles have barely moved relative to those benchmarks. You are apparently inferring that they have. OK, please share those data with us. I can be convinced and I am sure others can be as well.

You also inferred that there is a clique-sh aspect to membership. Is that really true? Are there instances of those satisfying the benchmarks being rejected? Or, conversely, those not meeting the benchmarks being accepted? I rather doubt that.
 
Chief00 said:
Conference Realignment is a Presidents’ club game, not the AD’s. Chief understand that’s a common misperception but the Presidents not the AD’s drive the realignment bus.
#ChiefCertified
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If that's so then what specifically, in your opinion, did she do wrong?
 
RSTuthill said:
Are there instances of those satisfying the benchmarks being rejected?
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I don’t have the specifics of how far we have come but agreement by three fourths of current members are required to be voted in. They certainly have specific criteria (research spending, percent of faculty who are members of the National Academies, faculty awards, and published/cited works) but subjectivity can never be dismissed in academia. Just look at admission requirements and the ultimate makeup of any school’s freshman class.

What makes the AAU so attractive is the prestige of being selected because the process to be chosen is so lengthy and difficult.

“Notre Dame and Connecticut are not AAU members but would like to be. So in the hubbub over who might be invited someday to join the Big Ten, know that if a school has the black mark of "not being an AAU member," it likely isn't by choice.”

"It is perhaps the most elite organization in higher education," said Michael Kirk, spokesman for Connecticut President Susan Herbst. "You'd probably be hard-pressed to find a major research university that didn't want to be a member of the AAU."
In the case of Notre Dame, the school has a sterling reputation for its undergraduate education. But only in recent years under President John Jenkins has there been a significant push to become a leading research and graduate university. Notre Dame would love to be an AAU member to solidify its status.

"As you know, membership in the AAU is by invitation only, and to date, we have not been invited," Notre Dame spokesman Dennis Brown said. "We do hope, however, that the progress we are making as a research institution will lead to that.”
 
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Chief00 said:
Did not built friendly relationships with other Presidents until late in her tenure.
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To be fair, she came in without much time to do that, right? That is why I am concerned about yet another regime change. No time to develop those relationships unless the incoming people already have them. Of course, UConn seems to be G5 in academics too so the chances of getting a really big name seem slim.
 
RSTuthill said:
To be fair, she came in without much time to do that, right? That is why I am concerned about yet another regime change. No time to develop those relationships unless the incoming people already have them. Of course, UConn seems to be G5 in academics too so the chances of getting a really big name seem slim.
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They have every internal politically correct group and political connected type represented on that silly 44 person search committee plus an external national vendor - I wonder if anyone is even thinking conference realignment?
 
RSTuthill said:
Of course it is not easy. There are benchmarks. But the general perception is that UConn's dashboard needles have barely moved relative to those benchmarks. You are apparently inferring that they have. OK, please share those data with us. I can be convinced and I am sure others can be as well.

You also inferred that there is a clique-sh aspect to membership. Is that really true? Are there instances of those satisfying the benchmarks being rejected? Or, conversely, those not meeting the benchmarks being accepted? I rather doubt that.
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"Upstater," where are you? I believe you have, in previous posts, suggested that the AAU has no wish to increase the denominator while the numerator (research grants) is languishing.
 
FAIRTIDES said:
"Upstater," where are you? I believe you have, in previous posts, suggested that the AAU has no wish to increase the denominator while the numerator (research grants) is languishing.
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Not to worry, the benchmarks aren't in the box anyway. Get those things lying flat for more than a year or two and then we can have a discussion about being on the outside looking in.
 
CL82 said:
There's not evidence that AD Dave is going anywhere. I don't know what criteria they will use for the next pres but I doubt athletic connections will be one of them. We'll see.
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He’s been sniffing around for other jobs ever since he got here.
 
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