UConn Power Conference Profile - A Long Look at the Numbers

[UConnJim]

Here are some B12 and rumored expansion candidate numbers of NFL, NBA, and MLB draft picks from 2005 to 2015:

NFL Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

57 Oklahoma
41 Texas
24 TCU
23 UConn
23 West Virginia
22 Baylor
22 Cincinnati
17 Oklahoma St.
16 USF
15 Kansas St.
15 Texas Tech
14 UCF
12 BYU
10 Iowa St.
9 Kansas
7 Temple
6 Houston
6 Memphis

NBA Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

18 Kansas
14 UConn
10 Texas
9 Memphis
6 Baylor
5 Oklahoma
5 Oklahoma St.
3 Iowa St.
3 West Virginia
3 Cincinnati
2 Temple
2 USF
1 KSU
1 BYU
1 UCF
0 TCU
0 Texas Tech
0 Houston

MLB Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

71 Oklahoma
71 Oklahoma St.
65 Texas
62 TCU
55 Texas Tech
49 Baylor
47 Kansas
42 Houston
38 Kansas St.
38 UCF
35 UConn
34 USF
27 West Virginia
26 BYU
21 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
4 Temple
0 Iowa St. (Dropped after 2001)

 

[HuskyHawk]

Here are some B12 and rumored expansion candidate numbers of NFL, NBA, and MLB draft picks from 2005 to 2015:

NFL Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

57 Oklahoma
41 Texas
24 TCU
23 UConn
23 West Virginia
22 Baylor
22 Cincinnati
17 Oklahoma St.
16 USF
15 Kansas St.
15 Texas Tech
14 UCF
12 BYU
10 Iowa St.
9 Kansas
7 Temple
6 Houston
6 Memphis

NBA Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

18 Kansas
14 UConn
10 Texas
9 Memphis
6 Baylor
5 Oklahoma
5 Oklahoma St.
3 Iowa St.
3 West Virginia
3 Cincinnati
2 Temple
2 USF
1 KSU
1 BYU
1 UCF
0 TCU
0 Texas Tech
0 Houston

MLB Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

71 Oklahoma
71 Oklahoma St.
65 Texas
62 TCU
55 Texas Tech
49 Baylor
47 Kansas
42 Houston
38 Kansas St.
38 UCF
35 UConn
34 USF
27 West Virginia
26 BYU
21 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
4 Temple
0 Iowa St. (Dropped after 2001)

That football number should really open some eyes. Basketball I think is as expected.

 

[jostar1]

I posted a link on shaggytexas.
http://www.shaggytexas.com/board/showthread.php/108844-Realignment-talk-not-going-away/page987

I'll be interested to see what they say.

One person posted this:

"The thing with UCONN is they will always be there. BC has come out and said they do not want to be the same conference as UCONN, so unless B1G wants them they will not be taken."

I guess they didn't learn from Louisville.

 

[History Geek]

One person posted this:

"The thing with UCONN is they will always be there. BC has come out and said they do not want to be the same conference as UCONN, so unless B1G wants them they will not be taken."

I guess they didn't learn from Louisville.

And I think there has been a detente between BC and UConn. Old perceptions die hard. That is why in the public relations game perception is more important than reality.

 

[Waquoit]

No doubt in my mind that BCU has pulled out the beads and are working the big guy hard to keep us out. If get into the Big 12, they are done.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

No doubt in my mind that BCU has pulled out the beads and are working the big guy hard to keep us out. If get into the Big 12, they are done.

I am not a BC fan; but, I disagree to a certain level.

No matter UConn's fate, BC will also have Boston (remember some locals in Boston don't think life exists outside of I-495) and been seen as the alternate major Catholic college sports brand after ND.

UConn joining the XII (or B1G) would have a greater impact on Syracuse. While Syracuse has more football 'history' than UConn, has more basketball titles while proving to be successful on the court after the school's HoF coach retires, and UConn is 100 miles closer to Times Square than Syracuse regardless of what Syracuse's marketing says. UConn playing Texas in MetLife (Rutgers playing Ohio State and Michigan in Jersey is not helping the Orange either) and Oklahoma and Kansas at MSG takes away NYC away from Syracuse and without NYC, Syracuse is nothing.

Allowing UConn to join the XII also makes it a 3 way fight for the country's largest and most important TV market between the ACC (Syracuse & ND primarily), B1G (Rutgers & Penn St), and the XII (UConn). Both the ACC and B1G have stated that their goal is to won the NYC market. I can't see how they take the potential entry of the XII into NYC laying down.

 

[huskypantz]

I am not a BC fan; but, I disagree to a certain level.

No matter UConn's fate, BC will also have Boston (remember some locals in Boston don't think life exists outside of I-495) and been seen as the alternate major Catholic college sports brand after ND.

UConn joining the XII (or B1G) would have a greater impact on Syracuse. While Syracuse has more football 'history' than UConn, has more basketball titles while proving to be successful on the court after the school's HoF coach retires, and UConn is 100 miles closer to Times Square than Syracuse regardless of what Syracuse's marketing says. UConn playing Texas in MetLife (Rutgers playing Ohio State and Michigan in Jersey is not helping the Orange either) and Oklahoma and Kansas at MSG takes away NYC away from Syracuse and without NYC, Syracuse is nothing.

Allowing UConn to join the XII also makes it a 3 way fight for the country's largest and most important TV market between the ACC (Syracuse & ND primarily), B1G (Rutgers & Penn St), and the XII (UConn). Both the ACC and B1G have stated that their goal is to won the NYC market. I can't see how they take the potential entry of the XII into NYC laying down.

One of the big advantages to the B12 invite for UConn would be that it puts UConn on a level field with Cuse and BC from a conference standpoint. That further damages their recruiting as they can't use our conference against us. It would get us marginally better interest in Boston, substantially better interest in CT, and a shade above the Boston uptick in NYC.

 

[Kolumbo]

From UCONN Alumni fb page.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I am not a BC fan; but, I disagree to a certain level.

No matter UConn's fate, BC will also have Boston (remember some locals in Boston don't think life exists outside of I-495) and been seen as the alternate major Catholic college sports brand after ND.

UConn joining the XII (or B1G) would have a greater impact on Syracuse. While Syracuse has more football 'history' than UConn, has more basketball titles while proving to be successful on the court after the school's HoF coach retires, and UConn is 100 miles closer to Times Square than Syracuse regardless of what Syracuse's marketing says. UConn playing Texas in MetLife (Rutgers playing Ohio State and Michigan in Jersey is not helping the Orange either) and Oklahoma and Kansas at MSG takes away NYC away from Syracuse and without NYC, Syracuse is nothing.

Allowing UConn to join the XII also makes it a 3 way fight for the country's largest and most important TV market between the ACC (Syracuse & ND primarily), B1G (Rutgers & Penn St), and the XII (UConn). Both the ACC and B1G have stated that their goal is to won the NYC market. I can't see how they take the potential entry of the XII into NYC laying down.

As a Boston resident of several years, I can promise you that BC resonates with no one here. Take a gander at their basketball attendance this year if you don't believe me. They must have the least local interest of any school in the P5.

 

[Drew]

Here are two things to note from the immediate responses:
1) Saying UConn has 4 national championships in basketball and football might be a bit misleading.
2) The folks in Texas probably don't understand that CT and NYC share a culture in a way that, say, Philadelphia and NYC do not share a culture. Focusing on distance from NYC leaves that fact out.

this times 10000x

when I came to UConn from North Carolina I was shocked that the entire southern section of Connecticut basically considers itself a NYC suburb. Still is bizarre to me to this day

 

[Sportsman5]

As a Boston resident of several years, I can promise you that BC resonates with no one here. Take a gander at their basketball attendance this year if you don't believe me. They must have the least local interest of any school in the P5.

100% true. There is a small number of diehard BC fans that are alumni or related to alumni. That is their total fan base. UConn has many times the number of fans.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

As a Boston resident of several years, I can promise you that BC resonates with no one here. Take a gander at their basketball attendance this year if you don't believe me. They must have the least local interest of any school in the P5.

I lived in Boston myself and can attest that outside of BC's own lukewarm alumni base and some die-hard local Catholics (oddly enough, I know a lot of die-hard BC fans who went to Stonehill, St. Anslem & St. Micheal's and not BC), BC's fanbase is small. Still, that is more than Syracuse has.

PS - Boston is the 7th largest TV market whereas Syracuse is the 81st largest. Thus, BC's 5% market share in Boston is a lot bigger than the Fruit's 50% market share in Syracuse.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I lived in Boston myself and can attest that outside of BC's own lukewarm alumni base and some die-hard local Catholics (oddly enough, I know a lot of die-hard BC fans who went to Stonehill, St. Anslem & St. Micheal's and not BC), BC's fanbase is small. Still, that is more than Syracuse has.

PS - Boston is the 7th largest TV market whereas Syracuse is the 81st largest. Thus, BC's 5% market share in Boston is a lot bigger than the Fruit's 50% market share in Syracuse.

I think 5% is high. I don't think 1 of 20 people in Boston follow BC at all. I know 0 BC fans.

 

[Dooley]

Here are some B12 and rumored expansion candidate numbers of NFL, NBA, and MLB draft picks from 2005 to 2015:

NFL Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

57 Oklahoma
41 Texas
24 TCU
23 UConn
23 West Virginia
22 Baylor
22 Cincinnati
17 Oklahoma St.
16 USF
15 Kansas St.
15 Texas Tech
14 UCF
12 BYU
10 Iowa St.
9 Kansas
7 Temple
6 Houston
6 Memphis

NBA Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

18 Kansas
14 UConn
10 Texas
9 Memphis
6 Baylor
5 Oklahoma
5 Oklahoma St.
3 Iowa St.
3 West Virginia
3 Cincinnati
2 Temple
2 USF
1 KSU
1 BYU
1 UCF
0 TCU
0 Texas Tech
0 Houston

MLB Draft Picks from 2005 to 2015:

71 Oklahoma
71 Oklahoma St.
65 Texas
62 TCU
55 Texas Tech
49 Baylor
47 Kansas
42 Houston
38 Kansas St.
38 UCF
35 UConn
34 USF
27 West Virginia
26 BYU
21 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
4 Temple
0 Iowa St. (Dropped after 2001)

LOVE this. Thanks for adding!

 

[CL82]

LOVE this. Thanks for adding!

I suggest that you, or a moderator, add this info to the original post to make it easier to find.

 

[Samoo]

I suggest that you, or a moderator, add this info to the original post to make it easier to find.

God knows it's not me but isn't there some tech-savvy genius around here skilled and creative enough to create a webpage or googledocs page or some kind of shared accessible platform that this information can be presented and updated as we move forward. Then only a link needs to be sent.

 

[Dooley]

I suggest that you, or a moderator, add this info to the original post to make it easier to find.

Agree. I've asked someone with Mod ability to add this contribution to the original post as I do not have Mod access (nor will it allow me to Edit my post since the 15 minutes have passed that I posted it). I've asked that @UConnJim get the proper and due credit for his research too so I don't usurp anyone's efforts.

God knows it's not me but isn't there some tech-savvy genius around here skilled and creative enough to create a webpage or googledocs page or some kind of shared accessible platform that this information can be presented and updated as we move forward. Then only a link needs to be sent.

Good idea. I'm not tech savvy enough to create a web page. Maybe someone from the UConn Blog, Boneyard Mod or @UConn07 will want to add some of this to their site(s). Agree that having a link that is assessable by everyone (I assume that people have to register at the Boneyard to read our threads) might be good for those of you spreading some of this on Twitter/social media.

 

[tzznandrew]

I lived in Boston myself and can attest that outside of BC's own lukewarm alumni base and some die-hard local Catholics (oddly enough, I know a lot of die-hard BC fans who went to Stonehill, St. Anslem & St. Micheal's and not BC), BC's fanbase is small. Still, that is more than Syracuse has.

PS - Boston is the 7th largest TV market whereas Syracuse is the 81st largest. Thus, BC's 5% market share in Boston is a lot bigger than the Fruit's 50% market share in Syracuse.

Syracuse has a lot of fans who aren't local.

The comparison between those two fan bases is laughable. You don't have to like Syracuse to know they have brand recognition in a way that BC never has.

 

[Dooley]

Syracuse has a lot of fans who aren't local.

The comparison between those two fan bases is laughable. You don't have to like Syracuse to know they have brand recognition in a way that BC never has.

Agree. BC might have the smallest fanbase in the entire P5. Syracuse always represents well in the northeast, especially NYC. There will be plenty of orange at the Rent this fall too (unfortunately).

 

[UConnJim]

Agree. I've asked someone with Mod ability to add this contribution to the original post as I do not have Mod access (nor will it allow me to Edit my post since the 15 minutes have passed that I posted it). I've asked that @UConnJim get the proper and due credit for his research too so I don't usurp anyone's efforts.

No credit needed. I just wanted to add some facts to our resume!

 

[J187Money]

this times 10000x when I came to UConn from North Carolina I was shocked that the entire southern section of Connecticut basically considers itself a NYC suburb. Still is bizarre to me to this day

Lots of people like me take the train into the city every day.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Agree. BC might have the smallest fanbase in the entire P5. Syracuse always represents well in the northeast, especially NYC. There will be plenty of orange at the Rent this fall too (unfortunately).

And that is my argument. BC will always have that small, niche, Catholic leaning fanbase around Boston no matter what happens elsewhere. Syracuse value is based on its presence not in upstate NY; but, the NYC area. Should UConn join a P5 conference, that value would be threatened as a private university with just 20,000 students located 250 miles away from NYC versus a state university (tuition price) with 30,000 students and growing located just 150 miles away from NYC (not to mention Rutgers with 60,000 students located 45 miles away from Time Square).

 

[aburks41]

WVU responded to my email. I posted a screenshot of it in a different thread, but here it is again

 

[Waquoit]

And that is my argument. BC will always have that small, niche, Catholic leaning fanbase around Boston no matter what happens elsewhere.

The move to the ACC has really helped BCU. They lead the country in the category of "Colleges with the Biggest Decrease in Applications".

 

[Dooley]

Nothing but class from WVU. Not surprising given the class they showed our Huskies in the first game we played after Jasper Howard was murdered.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I think 5% is high. I don't think 1 of 20 people in Boston follow BC at all. I know 0 BC fans.

I live in metro Boston and know a lot of BC fans. What many of them are is fickle. If BC wins, it will have little trouble filling the stands. They do this now for hockey. Basketball has been terrible for so long many BC fans pretend it doesn't exist. Football, if it gets back to 8-9 win seasons will be fine. The 5% number is low if anything, and would be much higher is they were doing well.

 

[HuskyHawk]

this times 10000x

when I came to UConn from North Carolina I was shocked that the entire southern section of Connecticut basically considers itself a NYC suburb. Still is bizarre to me to this day

I grew up in Manchester and still didn't really grasp that this was the case until I got to UConn. But even east of the river I grew up with cable Channel 38 showing all the Red Sox games, Channel 11 showing all the Yankee games and Channel 9 showing the Mets games.

Do people in Texas and Oklahoma understand that about 1/3 of Connecticut residents have NYC TV stations as their local stations? That the NY Times is delivered to their driveways? I don't think they get that.

 

[Drew]

Lots of people like me take the train into the city every day.

Nothing against you personally, I think its hilarious that people do this. They'll take the train 90+ minutes to work each way every day but won't drive somewhere that's 45 minutes away because it's "too far"

 

[CL82]

Nothing but class from WVU. Not surprising given the class they showed our Huskies in the first game we played after Jasper Howard was murdered.

They'll always have my respect and affection for that. Always.

 

[KyleUC]

Great post. If not the B1G, the Big 12 is exactly where UConn needs to be. Imagine dismantling Kansas in Gampel on a Saturday night or playing OU in a packed, loud Rent. However, the Big 12 doesn't sponsor men's soccer, just women's. Our women's team is very good, but I can't imagine those attendance numbers are for the women. We'd need to find a place to play men's soccer. If not the AAC, I would bet the Big East would take us back for men's soccer, which is still a good soccer conference in its own right.