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UConn planning upgrades at Gampel Pavilion, but likely passing on $300 million overhaul (Mike Anthony)

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Here's the Wintrust story from Wikipedia. Financing from several sources, including naming rights, and locating it adjacent to McCormick Place justified city funding tied to the construction jobs and permanent jobs (always BS) and revenue to be gleaned from conventions using it for major events.

Note this part of the story illustrating how Chicago always lets the ends justify the means: "The decision for public participation in the funding of DePaul's athletic facility was controversial because it was announced six days prior to the Board of Education's decision to close 50 public schools due to a $1 billion deficit."

10,000-seat plan​

Upon announcement, ESPN reported the expected cost of the 10,000-seat arena, located on Cermak Road between Indiana and Prairie Avenue, across the street from McCormick Place was $173 million.[8] The funding came from three sources: $70 million from the university, $70 million from a McPier bond fund, and $33 million from public taxes (i.e., $103 million from public funds).[8] It was built to host concerts, conventions, and other events in addition to DePaul Basketball games.[12] As the building approached completion, its capacity was announced as 10,387 seats for basketball.[2]


Funding​

The decision for public participation in the funding of DePaul's athletic facility was controversial because it was announced six days prior to the Board of Education's decision to close 50 public schools due to a $1 billion deficit.[13] When the Chicago City Council approved funding on July 24, 2013, the Chicago Reader reported the vote as though money was taken from the schools and spent on the arena because the spending plan included $68 million in budget cuts for the Chicago Public Schools.[14][15] The Chicago Tribune revealed that the land for the project had not yet been acquired four days after the City Hall funding vote.[16]


Construction​



Wintrust Arena under construction in August 2016

On November 16, 2015, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, officials from DePaul University and McCormick Place attended the ceremonial groundbreaking for the center.[17][18] At the time of the groundbreaking, the construction was expected to result in a 10,000-seat venue at the corner of Cermak Road and Indiana Avenue and expected to be completed at some time in 2017.[19] At the time, the DePaul Athletics department expected the 2017–18 DePaul Blue Demons to be able to host their season opener at the venue,[20] but the venue was expected to double as an events center for McCormick Place.[18] The Center was expected to create 7,400 construction jobs and 2,500 permanent jobs.[18]

The city issued a "new construction" building permit to McPier on March 23, 2016,[21] for the full building. Previously issued permits allowed the construction of foundations and shear walls.
 
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Gampel is definitely a dump. I love games there and prefer it to XL, but we're lying to ourselves if we say it's not a pit. One decent sized dump in those horribly designed bathrooms and that entire place is collapsing.
Yeah, right

You both must not go to alot of stadiums/arenas. It’s a bare basic arena. But it’s not a dump.
 
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Rebuild a new one with new naming rights to help offset some of the expense
Sell the naming rights to Nardelli’s, then schedule a home-and-home with Rutty (Jersey Mike’s Arena) and turn it into the battle of the grinder/sub/hero/wedge.

In all seriousness, timing is everything when it comes to generating sponsorship revenue. If the men’s and women’s teams are killing it simultaneously, naming rights and other high-priced sponsorship assets will generate massive sums in long-term deals… as long as UConn has the right outside sales agency.
 
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Food for thought. In Field of 68 this morning, there is an article linked,
Auburn is prioritizing NIL over hoops facility upgrades.

In the world of tradeoffs, should NIL ammunition factor into a Gampel decision? Would be pretty sad to end up with a great facility, but less outstanding teams by not competing for players, then less attendance because the probuct results tank.
 
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Tear down the old field, build a new court there, then convert Gampel into something else, or make it into another parking garage or something.... Make the new arena something that could hold close to 20K...
 

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Food for thought. In Field of 68 this morning, there is an article linked,
Auburn is prioritizing NIL over hoops facility upgrades.

In the world of tradeoffs, should NIL ammunition factor into a Gampel decision? Would be pretty sad to end up with a great facility, but less outstanding teams by not competing for players, then less attendance because the probuct results tank.

Except schools don't pay players NIL.
 
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If we get into B12 and maybe some day B10, both Gampel can be upgraded and a new football stadium can be placed on campus. we can bring back men's swimming and add men's LAX
 
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Just build a new arena. It will last 30-40 years if built well and cost less in the long run.
Agreed.

Presenting, the brand new state of the art Brett Yormark Court at Big XII East Pavilion
 

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My guess is if Toscano was built exactly as it was, without this feature, it would have cost $8-$10 million less. Estimating $80-$85 million for a larger capacity Toscano, $150-$170 million for the new basketball facility (considerably larger structure than the ice rink, therefore considerably more concrete) taking into account the economies of scale of two concurrent projects (Q did benefit from their facilities being built as they were) and anywhere between $10-$15 million for sitework, we could have come in under the $300 million with considerable overruns before the sale of naming rights (assuming we could use university owned land).
Thanks for posting. If I wrote the same thing I could end up in a disciplinary hearing lol
 
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-> For example, UConn had Populous take a hard look at a nearly total makeover of Gampel. A footbridge would connect the arena to the South Garage across Jim Calhoun Way, a secondary concourse would exist in space currently external to the building and office areas would be leveled in favor of merchandising, beer sales and more. Square footage, currently about 228,000, would increase dramatically. The cost estimate came back at north of $300 million. UConn would be better off building from scratch. <-

-> Perhaps first, or at least up high, on the Gampel to-do list is to replace all lower-level seating that is not permanent, which is most of it. The roll-in, roll-out, bleachers — like the court they have surrounded — are nearing the end of their usable life and new seating must be installed in the next two years.

“We’ll maybe replace them as currently configured,” Benedict said. “Or, could we do some different things? Could we create some premium seating that offers nicer chairs, that are padded, wider, more comfortable? Could you maybe create a second row of floor seats, which we’re completely sold out of now? Could you potentially move students courtside versus being on the ends? Those are all things that we’re talking about.”

-> “We need to try to address our premium offerings, which we have very little of, which means, how do we create some club spaces?” Benedict said. “How do we create better points of sale and options from a concession standpoint? And the biggest thing is how our fans can move in and out and around the building, which is difficult, because we don’t have an outer concourse. So it really clogs things up. We want to be sold out and that creates problems with bathrooms and points of sale and concessions.” <-

Newly approved Connecticut budget allocated $10 millions for Gampel. What the $$ is for was not specified in the Hartford Courant article. Any ideas was the $$ is for?
 

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Newly approved Connecticut budget allocated $10 millions for Gampel. What the $$ is for was not specified in the Hartford Courant article. Any ideas was the $$ is for?

Nothing you will notice.
 
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Newly approved Connecticut budget allocated $10 millions for Gampel. What the $$ is for was not specified in the Hartford Courant article. Any ideas was the $$ is for?
Maybe the court? Or scoreboards. The old hockey rink that is turning into the volleyball arena looks like it’s getting Gampels old scoreboards.
 
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Maybe the court? Or scoreboards. The old hockey rink that is turning into the volleyball arena looks like it’s getting Gampels old scoreboards.
There was mention of making the lower bowl all permanent seats?
 
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Newly approved Connecticut budget allocated $10 millions for Gampel. What the $$ is for was not specified in the Hartford Courant article. Any ideas was the $$ is for?
There are so many things that need attention at Gampel, $10 mil won't get you too much. Seating, concessions, rest rooms, video boards, lack of a concourse behind the seating. You name it, that place needs it. I don't think you'll see funding for a major overhaul or a new arena for at least ten years.
 
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Maybe the court? Or scoreboards. The old hockey rink that is turning into the volleyball arena looks like it’s getting Gampels old scoreboards.
The new court along with new surfaces for field hockey and indoor track were funded with university/athletic $$. The Gampel scoreboards are probably too big for Freitas.
 
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The new court along with new surfaces for field hockey and indoor track were funded with university/athletic $$. The Gampel scoreboards are probably too big for Freitas.
Thats what I thought but if you look at the renderings for Freitas it has those scoreboards in them
 

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Thats what I thought but if you look at the renderings for Freitas it has those scoreboards in them

I think that's more a placeholder for whatever board they get rather than literally hauling those ones down the street.
 

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What would be the biggest hold up in building a new arena, other than money?

“What was the major problem in getting the Titanic to port, Captain, you know, other than the iceberg?”
 
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“What was the major problem in getting the Titanic to port, Captain, you know, other than the iceberg?”
Ooh, that opens a whole can of worms and bad decisions.
 

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