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Broadway Va said:
Coco--Kind estment of what I was seekingsity in my questions.
One step further--it's easy way too easy for Fans to say --if we don't do this-we are done---the hard part is doing the plan and effort (financial, physical) to make a valid presentation to B12 for consideration.
What would YOUR plan be and what, if you were the UC pres/Ad need to address and where would the funds come from to allow the B12 to know you are capable of completing your plan??

Where is Groucho when we need him. And from a guy known for outrageous comedy not intelligence.
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1) My plan would start with something concrete, I'm not sure of the specific but I know there were law suits to which UCONN was a party when BC and others left the BE for ACC. To the extent that UCONN enemies were made in the process that needs to corrected. By time, by apologies, by payoffs if necessary. Lets call that eliminating ANYONE who would say no to UCONN membership today because of something that happen a decade ago.
2) Quantify what UCONN has to offer a conference, Academic, facilities, Potential TV viewers, Investment in the University, UCONN brand etc. Call this our Elevator speech- 5-7 quantified things can be rattled off in <60 seconds.
3) Establish a champion/sponsor in Big 12, Big 10, & ACC. Warde Manuel for Big 10. We'll call this the Inside man. These champions are working convince the other conference members that UCONN is worthy and constantly counting the vote-as in if a vote came up today for UCONN membership here is how it would turn out.
4) Establish and monitor a list of measurables. Examples: Your 5-7 elevator speech don't have to get to 8 but over time they need to get stronger- That New Champions center, that new science building, new dorm .... all. The vote count from you inside man is a definite measurable. One of the most important measurables that has been mentioned is the decrease in funding from the state. This requires a separate detailed plan to offset. The football team has to prove it can be competitive in any of these conferences. A increasing challenging football schedule and better performance is a measurable must have. Schedule the weakest team in each of these conferences, beat them and then the next. That is only 3 games per year if each says yes and they won't initially- That where your inside men comes back into play.
5) Energize your Alumni for donations-another measurable. Season ticket sales need to be trending up. Make sure they know that we are trying to get to a P5 conference and buying a season ticket will help.
6) Be opportunistic but patient. Be transparent with your own conference, know what your conference exit fees are and where the money would come from to pay exit fees. Conference realignments are cyclical, this will not be the last one. Ultimate Success is to have more to offer each time an opportunity comes around.
 
CocoHusky said:
1) My plan would start with something concrete, I'm not sure of the specific but I know there were law suits to which UCONN was a party when BC and others left the BE for ACC. To the extent that UCONN enemies were made in the process that needs to corrected. By time, by apologies, by payoffs if necessary. Lets call that eliminating ANYONE who would say no to UCONN membership today because of something that happen a decade ago.
2) Quantify what UCONN has to offer a conference, Academic, facilities, Potential TV viewers, Investment in the University, UCONN brand etc. Call this our Elevator speech- 5-7 quantified things can be rattled off in <60 seconds.
3) Establish a champion/sponsor in Big 12, Big 10, & ACC. Warde Manuel for Big 10. We'll call this the Inside man. These champions are working convince the other conference members that UCONN is worthy and constantly counting the vote-as in if a vote came up today for UCONN membership here is how it would turn out.
4) Establish and monitor a list of measurables. Examples: Your 5-7 elevator speech don't have to get to 8 but over time they need to get stronger- That New Champions center, that new science building, new dorm .... all. The vote count from you inside man is a definite measurable. One of the most important measurables that has been mentioned is the decrease in funding from the state. This requires a separate detailed plan to offset. The football team has to prove it can be competitive in any of these conferences. A increasing challenging football schedule and better performance is a measurable must have. Schedule the weakest team in each of these conferences, beat them and then the next. That is only 3 games per year if each says yes and they won't initially- That where your inside men comes back into play.
5) Energize your Alumni for donations-another measurable. Season ticket sales need to be trending up. Make sure they know that we are trying to get to a P5 conference and buying a season ticket will help.
6) Be opportunistic but patient. Be transparent with your own conference, know what your conference exit fees are and where the money would come from to pay exit fees. Conference realignments are cyclical, this will not be the last one. Ultimate Success is to have more to offer each time an opportunity comes around.
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I like your idea about the inside man. I've been hoping for a while that this will help us into the most stable of stable conferences.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Come on guys, if UConn needs to put together a presentation to sell itself, then we're in trouble.
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I hope the arrogance of this statement is self evident. There are 17 teams putting together presentations to the Big 12 for membership. What you should be saying is: I hope UCONN makes the best presentation.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Oh my gosh! How many national championships have those 17 teams won?
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I can't seem to get through to you so I'll try being blunt. What is in UCONN's trophy case is not going to help UCONN get into a P5 conference. If the trophy case was going to help UCONN would already be in a P5. That's that lack of objectivity that I keep talking about.
 
Fightin Choke said:
That's not the way I saw it. I thought the Catholic schools left en masse because the football schools were leaving (or attempting to leave) the Big East like rats on a sinking ship. UConn had been trying to leave for the ACC before the Catholic schools decided to leave, so you can't blame them for going their own way. If I found out that my date for the prom kept trying to upgrade her situation by propositioning other guys, I would beat her to the punch by finding someone better for myself, leaving her without her safety net.
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It was ND that screwed everyone, and walked away clean.
 
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CocoHusky said:
I can't seem to get through to you so I'll try being blunt. What is in UCONN's trophy case is not going to help UCONN get into a P5 conference. If the trophy case was going to help UCONN would already be in a P5. That's that lack of objectivity that I keep talking about.
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Well, I think that P5 ship has sailed. Why would any current league want to share their money, unless a new member was worth more, if not immediately, then in a very short time? Some pretty worthless programs will be cashing big checks, and our program will fade away from national prominence. All I can say is that I'll never be supporting any P5 without UConn as a part of it.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
So what is it exactly that we lack? Oh we suck at football? That's a start...

Right now I feel like UConn could win the national championship in football and we'd still get the cold shoulder. No, that would do it!

Perhaps there is some merit to the idea that the other schools are just scared of UConn. Hmmmm....don't think that's it.
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uconnfan68 said:
Well, I think that P5 ship has sailed. Why would any current league want to share their money, unless a new member was worth more, if not immediately, then in a very short time? Some pretty worthless programs will be cashing big checks, and our program will fade away from national prominence. All I can say is that I'll never be supporting any P5 without UConn as a part of it.
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There will be another ship. BC is a Jesuit institution how hard would it be for the BE to poach BC back from the ACC? How hard would the ACC fight to keep BC. FSU, Clemson, & Miami are much more attractive targets for SEC than say Vandy. ND independent status in football won't last forever. Huston has the biggest Non-P5 media market and apparently either USC or UCLA is tired of playing little brother. There is also a slight possibility that the "Independent" status granted to P5 will not work out business wise. It is remarkable what happens when you have to manage a billion dollar property like a real business, your labor force is demanding salaries and benefits like insurance, your non-profit status is under assault. If you are Alabama Football why not start your own network, like Texas? Are we going to have a B12 network and Texas- Longhorn separate from that?
 
CocoHusky said:
There will be another ship. BC is a Jesuit institution how hard would it be for the BE to poach BC back from the ACC? How hard would the ACC fight to keep BC. FSU, Clemson, & Miami are much more attractive targets for SEC than say Vandy. ND independent status in football won't last forever. Huston has the biggest Non-P5 media market and apparently either USC or UCLA is tired of playing little brother. There is also a slight possibility that the "Independent" status granted to P5 will not work out business wise. It is remarkable what happens when you have to manage a billion dollar property like a real business, your labor force is demanding salaries and benefits like insurance, your non-profit status is under assault. If you are Alabama Football why not start your own network, like Texas? Are we going to have a B12 network and Texas- Longhorn separate from that?
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BC isn't leaving the ACC ($25-20M) for the BE ($5?M). In the real world teams usually only step up. When was the last time you heard of a program being pushed out of a league?
 
uconnfan68 said:
BC isn't leaving the ACC ($25-20M) for the BE ($5?M). In the real world teams usually only step up. When was the last time you heard of a program being pushed out of a league?
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Well if I'm to believe many of these post UCONN was pushed out of the Big East.
 
CocoHusky said:
There will be another ship. BC is a Jesuit institution how hard would it be for the BE to poach BC back from the ACC? How hard would the ACC fight to keep BC. FSU, Clemson, & Miami are much more attractive targets for SEC than say Vandy. ND independent status in football won't last forever. Huston has the biggest Non-P5 media market and apparently either USC or UCLA is tired of playing little brother. There is also a slight possibility that the "Independent" status granted to P5 will not work out business wise. It is remarkable what happens when you have to manage a billion dollar property like a real business, your labor force is demanding salaries and benefits like insurance, your non-profit status is under assault. If you are Alabama Football why not start your own network, like Texas? Are we going to have a B12 network and Texas- Longhorn separate from that?
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read up on conference realignment and you will see that every sentence you wrote is incorrect.
 
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vowelguy said:
read up on conference realignment and you will see that every sentence you wrote is incorrect.
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A sentence that poses a question ( by definition) cannot be incorrect- nice try though.
 
CocoHusky said:
Well if I'm to believe many of these post UCONN was pushed out of the Big East.
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They weren't pushed out. They chose to be with other football teams in a new conference. The catholic schools paid for the Big East name.
 
uconnfan68 said:
They weren't a full member. Maybe that mattered.
Also not P5.
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They got kicked out cause they were terrible. If they were going to bowl games every year.... you think they would have been banished? :confused:
 
How much longer are you going to be mad at ND, or Rutgers, or Old Big East, or BC, or ACC ,or Big 10, or Big 12, or Paul Pasqualoni , or the Good Ole Boy Network, or the Boggie man, or the Man, for UCONN not being in a P5?
 
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triaddukefan said:
Temple.... the Big East kicked them out in football.
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They were NOT a member. They were an affiliate -- that is, they had a short-term contract that would get renewed every few years. At some point the Big East decided not to renew the relationship.

Full members are not contractors. They are owners.

No full member has ever been kicked out of a P5 conference. (Nor any conference to my knowledge.)
 
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