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I don't think it's hate so much. Even though he is putting up very solid numbers, the eye test says he could be (much?) better. Seems he has a couple rebounds just slip out, a couple of bunnies not get over the rim and obviously a few free throws not go down every game.

He is capable of having a couple more rebounds, a couple less turnovers and another 5 to 7 points a game without changing anything but focus/effort.

So yeah, it sucks to see he can be an even bigger stud. We don't get to 21-1 without him, but we could be even more scary if he could clean some things up a bit.
So you want him to average about 20 and 12 on 70% shooting? Because I mean that’s the next step from where he is.

Yea we’d be better if he did that lmao. He’d also be significantly better than Adama Sanogo and possibly player of the year.

Why can’t we just be happy he’s a top 10 big in the sport?

He’s clearly not the problem. If we even have one.
 
So you want him to average about 20 and 12 on 70% shooting? Because I mean that’s the next step from where he is.

Yea we’d be better if he did that lmao. He’d also be significantly better than Adama Sanogo and possibly player of the year.

Why can’t we just be happy he’s a top 10 big in the sport?

He’s clearly not the problem. If we even have one.
Who said he's a problem? You don't have to be so defensive to everything. His reaching an upside only helps our chances to feel like an NC fav. If you look ahead of us, there are some formidable front courts. AZ has a kid at center that is now getting mocked first round, along with Peat. UM is UM. Duke has Boozer & Ngongba. Tarris needs to be clicking for us once we get into the real action. Illinois rebounds the cr@p out of it.
 
Who said he's a problem? You don't have to be so defensive to everything. His reaching an upside only helps our chances to feel like an NC fav. If you look ahead of us, there are some formidable front courts. AZ has a kid at center that is now getting mocked first round, along with Peat. UM is UM. Duke has Boozer & Ngongba. Tarris needs to be clicking for us once we get into the real action. Illinois rebounds the cr@p out of it.
Taris is clicking.

If you think he’s not, and we won’t win because of it, you’re saying he’s a problem.

We can win and have won with how he’s playing right now.

We match those teams in rebounding by Alex, Eric and Stew upping their interior play. Not the guy averaging 8
 
We’d be much better if Solo made his open 3s. Same thing with Karaban. Actually if everyone on the team made a few more shots and a few more rebounds we’d be better…

I think your frustrations are misplaced. He isn’t missing layups on purpose. He’s leading the big east in field goal percentage for god sake. He’s not the reason why they have struggled. It’s been turnovers and missed open shots.
I was going to put something in my post that likewise it would also be good if Ball was shooting closer to his historical average instead of 10% below. And it would be good if AK was taking a few more at 42% and also making more bunnies, but I decided to focus just on Reed as that was the player referenced.

So you want him to average about 20 and 12 on 70% shooting? Because I mean that’s the next step from where he is.

Yea we’d be better if he did that lmao. He’d also be significantly better than Adama Sanogo and possibly player of the year.

Why can’t we just be happy he’s a top 10 big in the sport?

He’s clearly not the problem. If we even have one.
I get that what I'm saying puts him in elite status, but it's there. You can see it. He can actually be a 20 and 12 guy. It's right there in front of him. And yes, he can absolutely be better than Sanogo. He has all the size, skills, strength and athleticism to be.

As I said, we don't get to 21-1 without him, but he is just a tick under what I think he can be. Player of the year - maybe - that's there too.

I'm happy he's a top 10 big, but it's his last year and he has everything to be a top 3 guy and no, he's not the problem or even a problem. I'm just saying there is more there and we want to see him get to that next level.
 
Taris is clicking.

If you think he’s not, and we won’t win because of it, you’re saying he’s a problem.

We can win and have won with how he’s playing right now.

We match those teams in rebounding by Alex, Eric and Stew upping their interior play. Not the guy averaging 8
No, no he's not. Sorry buddy, you cannot just flash the stats. You're on an island with that. We've been outrebounded by garbage rebounding teams in the BE in this stretch, in games way too close, with garbage centers. Keep fighting the fight, but there a peoplel here who watch the game who see plenty he can be much better at.
 
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I was going to put something in my post that likewise it would also be good if Ball was shooting closer to his historical average instead of 10% below. And it would be good if AK was taking a few more at 42% and also making more bunnies, but I decided to focus just on Reed as that was the player referenced.


I get that what I'm saying puts him in elite status, but it's there. You can see it. He can actually be a 20 and 12 guy. It's right there in front of him. And yes, he can absolutely be better than Sanogo. He has all the size, skills, strength and athleticism to be.

As I said, we don't get to 21-1 without him, but he is just a tick under what I think he can be. Player of the year - maybe - that's there too.

I'm happy he's a top 10 big, but it's his last year and he has everything to be a top 3 guy and no, he's not the problem or even a problem. I'm just saying there is more there and we want to see him get to that next level.
Understood. But do you realize this is not the angle from the fan base. You have guys like @RuffRuff calling him soft. He’s being labeled as “inconsistent” when his numbers and advanced metrics say otherwise. “Eye test” is very biased. And I don’t see the critics rooting him on. I see people saying he needs to lose minutes to Reibe. As if he’s been less than. When he very clearly hasn’t been. I respect your angle. But if we’re being honest this is not what people are saying.
 
Understood. But do you realize this is not the angle from the fan base. You have guys like @RuffRuff calling him soft. He’s being labeled as “inconsistent” when his numbers and advanced metrics say otherwise. “Eye test” is very biased. And I don’t see the critics rooting him on. I see people saying he needs to lose minutes to Reibe. As if he’s been less than. When he very clearly hasn’t been. I respect your angle. But if we’re being honest this is not what people are saying.
I do not speak for the people - just saying what I think. There's more to his game that hasn't been tapped. Not having tapped that isn't hurting us, but tapping it can bring us to another level. Just like getting Ball back to shooting around 40% brings us to another level.
 
I do not speak for the people - just saying what I think. There's more to his game that hasn't been tapped. Not having tapped that isn't hurting us, but tapping it can bring us to another level. Just like getting Ball back to shooting around 40% brings us to another level.
I’m only responding to you saying you don’t think it’s hate. I’m telling you there is a subset here who are absolutely doing that. I respect wanting all the players to be better. But this board/fan base picks a guy or 2 every year to pick on. He got called soft for sitting out a game due to injury this year. Its unwarranted.
 
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Taris is clicking.

If you think he’s not, and we won’t win because of it, you’re saying he’s a problem.

We can win and have won with how he’s playing right now.

We match those teams in rebounding by Alex, Eric and Stew upping their interior play. Not the guy averaging 8
BTW, Tarris averaged .5 rebounds less last year on like 6 less minutes a game. If he was going to stay to last years rate, he'd be closer to 10/game.
 
up til last night's game, duke had been playing significantly better than uconn over the past month. For better or worse, the eye test matters. THey also have 8 quad wins to 5. Their florida, MSU, and KU wins match up about even with illinois, florida and kansas. We have the extra high-level win over BYU OOC, but they also just whacked a similarly rated louisville team by a significant margin. And they have an extra chance against Michigan for an elite win, which I htink is a toss-up at this point.

If both teams run it to the end of the season, Duke has the edge...and I'm not sure there's a particularly good argument any other way. Unless Uconn obliterates these non-tournament teams they should be for the rest of the year, I think they are not sitting at #1 in the east. For better or worse, efficiency metrics are on the team sheet, and uconn is a trailer in that department too.

Concensus is uconn is #4 overall right now: http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

That said, I don't think both teams will run it to the end of the year, so the point will be moot.
If it came down to it I’d take #2 in the east vs number one anywhere else. Except maybe possibly the west. But let’s stay local and run this B!!
 
No, no he's not. Sorry buddy, you cannot just flash the stats. You're on an island with that. We've been outrebounded by garbage rebounding teams in the BE in this stretch, in games way too close, with garbage centers. Keep fighting the fight, but there a peoplel here who watch the game who see plenty he can be much better at.
1. I’m not alone.

2. The best rebounder on the team is not the reason we are struggling to rebound. The mental gymnastics you go through to stick to your narrative should be studied.

3. Mr Metrics and numbers is now telling me to ignore the metrics and numbers lmfao. This is amazing.

4. Watch the game? Watch the game?! The guy who disappeared for the AAC decade is attempting to insinuate he watches the game and I don’t. I bet you couldn’t name me a 2016 AAC roster off of the top of your head. Who’s Antwoine Anderson? Give me a break lol
 
No, no he's not. Sorry buddy, you cannot just flash the stats. You're on an island with that. We've been outrebounded by garbage rebounding teams in the BE in this stretch, in games way too close, with garbage centers. Keep fighting the fight, but there a peoplel here who watch the game who see plenty he can be much better at.
Tarris is more or less fine, he’s honestly not even the one who needs the most improvement. He can do better, he should get a few more boards per game but I also think some of our guys don’t rebound well elsewhere

Right now, consistent shooting is the main issue that will determine our championship potential. They don’t need to be perfect, but that and slightly better rebounding overall completely changes things.
 

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