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UConn, Kevin Ollie no longer have excuses.

Maybe the scouting was no good, how else are mid major big men better than ours? In any case that’s completely on KO. He and Chillious are supposed to stock the roster and if they can’t get the talent someone else needs to try. If this season breaks down badly in the next 4 weeks the AD should start looking, but don’t fire KO until the end of the season.
 
Paesano said:
Yeah but there are people on both sides that are guilty of not looking at the entire picture.
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Perception is reality. Vitale and Greenberg were waxing nostalgic for a UConn program that belongs to another time, not pushing an ESPN agenda to put us in the newest BE.
 
When you have Donny Marshall making public proclamations that we need to return to the Big East and then you have Greenberg and Jay Williams making the same statements a year later on national broadcast multiple times, you know you have a BIG PROBLEM. We have a coaching problem more than a conference problem, but UCONN still needs to return to the BIG EAST.

Everybody that has eyes can see this. It won't solve our coaching problems, but for sure it will help with recruiting as the national profile and perception of UCONN will have the name BIG EAST still attached to it.

That way when we make a coaching change, it will be much easier to recruit the right candidate.
 
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lange10 said:
Has anyone figured out the actual cost to terminating him after this season. I’ve seen like 8 different numbers thrown around.
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It appears to be $10mm+ if he gets fired without "cause" and doesn't want to negotiate it.
 
Storrs South said:
Zagoria's response to the article

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Without an NIT (I put some value in the NIT) birth (and at least 2 wins there) he deserves to be shown the exit. This based off the present 2018 recruiting class...coupled with what our roster could look like in 2018-19. Mitigating factors =No one of substance transfers & Adams/Larrier return (asking for both is unlikely) or replacing JA/TL with 4*'s or GS 4* quality. Ok Chill?

I think meeting this threshold is reasonable (and fluedy would even agree right?) and generous for a program with such a proud history. Personally I want KO to succeed. Every game I root for the team to be successful (some here will take the L's for KO's head). Internally some/most would argue the program is a complete train wreck.

My thoughts on this year is we are not a NCAA tournament caliber team. I would be pleasantly surprised just to hear our name called (which is sad). From a return on investment perspective as it relates to the coach ect ect...

I think the administration could keep KO through next year regardless of any of my standards. Lets face it even KO on a personal level would accept the terms of this deal. He would have to if he really bleeds blue. When/if the above fails to happen I will make my feelings known. The goodwill relating to the 2013/14 title will be gone.

Until then....

GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hmmmm
 
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JMick said:
It appears to be $10mm+ if he gets fired without "cause" and doesn't want to negotiate it.
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Saw your post with that number. Hoping you’re wrong. If that’s right I’m afraid Ollie will be at the helm long enough to entirely run this program into the ground. Still think Hurley, Pikiell, or Crean coming in after this season could salvage things.
 
lange10 said:
Saw your post with that number. Hoping you’re wrong. If that’s right I’m afraid Ollie will be at the helm long enough to entirely run this program into the ground. Still think Hurley, Pikiell, or Crean coming in after this season could salvage things.
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There are others insisting that it's not true and the number is much lower. From what I've seen in the contract that doesn't seem to be the case. There's also a lot of crap going on behind the scenes that could potentially be used as leverage to lower the buyout number but that's just wishful thinking and would probably get ugly fast.
 
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tykurez said:
The brutal world of sports really. There's almost no perspective on the mitigating circumstances outside of the injuries and transfers (which are valid excuses, especially the first.) No mention of a program once surrounded by other healthy (and regional) programs with decades long traditions and rivalries now relegated to playing directional and forget-me-not schools. No mention of recruiting with your hands tied by behind your back (not including a reduction of scholarships) until the start of just a couple short years ago. Those things don't exist in a vacuum. They have lasting effects that are imperceivable to the casual fans™ - and seemingly national writers.

Also, “It was like we never, you know, seen a zone before,” is a quote frequently heard out of Lord Calhoun's mouth so that part is not new to the program.
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Here's the thing. All the transfers last year ? They're not a cause, they're an EFFECT. And comparing Ollie to Calhoun just doesn't fly. Kevin Ollie is NOT Jim Calhoun.
 
JMick said:
There are others insisting that it's not true and the number is much lower. From what I've seen in the contract that doesn't seem to be the case. There's also a lot of crap going on behind the scenes that could potentially be used as leverage to lower the buyout number but that's just wishful thinking and would probably get ugly fast.
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As I have said before, there is a way out of this contract. But, yes, it will be ugly. Almost as ugly as the team is right now.
 
UConn has all it needs to make this happen at the end of the season. There is plenty of stuff that the pom pom wavers either don't know about or refuse to acknowledge, but it's there.
 
We’re better with Gilbert in but that’s not helping us against big teams. KO has failed to recruit quality bigs for years. We used to be a high flying team under Calhoun, even when we couldn’t shoot. Now we can’t play above the rim or shoot.
 
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nycorange said:
As a 'cuse fan, you have to fire KO. Sure you've had bad luck with both injuries and conference re-alignment. But even if your conference isn't exactly elite, .
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I for one do not blame the conference, in fact I will go so far as to say that a school does not need tto belong to a power conference to be able yo be at Syracuse in an important game. I've seen Rhode Island do it. I've seen Richmond do it. I've seen Vermont do it. I've seen Dayton do it.

It does not appear to be that difficult a task.
 
So, what are these nebulous and yet unstated specific reasons why UCONN will be able to extricate itself from the buyout provisions in Ollie's contract? Suddenly we seem to have an entire cavalry of contract attorneys here waiting to pounce.
 
lange10 said:
Saw your post with that number. Hoping you’re wrong. If that’s right I’m afraid Ollie will be at the helm long enough to entirely run this program into the ground. Still think Hurley, Pikiell, or Crean coming in after this season could salvage things.
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He isn't wrong. 10 million after the season. It's the reason I don't think he is going anywhere, unless the boosters come up with the money.
 
jibsey said:
Maybe the scouting was no good, how else are mid major big men better than ours? In any case that’s completely on KO. He and Chillious are supposed to stock the roster and if they can’t get the talent someone else needs to try. If this season breaks down badly in the next 4 weeks the AD should start looking, but don’t fire KO until the end of the season.
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When exactly did we get a quality big? Brimah played here for 4 years without another big coming in to add depth.
 
It would be awesome if an NBA team would be willing to roll the dice with Ollie. It would allow an amicable breakup and save us the huge buyout.
 
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gwhuskyfan said:
"The UConn head coach and the handpicked successor to Jim Calhoun, a Hall of Famer and the man that put Storrs, Conn., on the college basketball map, is not even four years removed from winning a national title in just his second season as a head coach and he’s damn near managed to run the UConn program into the ground."

That is just brutal
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Yes it is brutal, but also true unfortunately. Benedict is going to earn his pay this year...
 
UConnStats said:
It would be awesome if an NBA team would be willing to roll the dice with Ollie. It would allow an amicable breakup and save us the huge buyout.
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It would be nice if that happened after win won another natty this year.

I don't think my add on made it all that much less likely.
 
CL82 said:
It would be nice if that happened after win won another natty this year.

I don't think my add on made it all that much less likely.
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The odds of winning another national title under Kevin Ollie are virtually non existent. Making the tournament is a longshot in itself. A deep tourney run with an undisciplined, unprepared team isn't going to happen.
 
Huskybass said:
The odds of winning another national title under Kevin Ollie are virtually non existent. Making the tournament is a longshot in itself. A deep tourney run with an undisciplined, unprepared team isn't going to happen.
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Kind of my point. KO was a hot property. I doubt he is viewed that way anymore.
 
kansashusky said:
Really fair article.

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/12/06/uconn-kevin-ollie-no-longer-have-excuses-for-their-struggles/

Also here is a scary thought, in our 22 remaining games, we are only favored in 8.

This is the make it or break it year for KO. UConn nation cannot afford to keep waiting.....
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The last few years its been one excuse after another. UConn is too good for these damn excuses. This program has been in a dumpster long enough. It's time they let Ollie go and get a proven coach from the outside with the necessary connections. How worse can this program get before they make a damn move. And I don't mean giving him another raise!
 
RJScootin said:
“It was like we never, you know, seen a zone before,” Ollie told reporters after Tuesday’s loss, which is not exactly high-praise coming from the man in charge of ensuring that his team sees a zone before facing Syracuse.
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This quote from the face of the program, the guy who touts our great university, but who still uses poor grammar more than twenty years after obtaining his degree. Hard to imagine why no one has sat him down and indicated how bad he sounds at times and how some parents may steer their kids away from a university whose graduates can't speak properly. At times he's okay, but under pressure and when in a hurry, he resorts to old habits.
 
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