UConn in the NBA Jan '25

[HuskyWarrior611]

Not to completely revive the “Is Castle a PG?” discussion, but he is a lot better this year when paired with another true PG, whether it’s Chris Paul or Tre Jones. While acquiring Fox might decrease Castle’s role this year, he might actually pair great with Fox down the road. Since offense is currently Castle’s biggest question mark, I like the idea of paring him with a lead guard who can score like Fox.

Sam Vecenie - who loves Castle and said if there was a redraft of the 2024 draft he might very well take Castle #1 - definitely likes the idea of Castle playing alongside Fox more than the idea of Casytle as the primary PG.

I really, really hope they don’t include him in a Fox trade. I don’t think they will.

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You’re telling me a team is better with one of the best floor generals OAT on the court than a rookie who is relearning how to be a lead guard after taking a year off from it?

Tell me more.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

If it was up to you all players would not be allowed to learn, grow, and get better. You’d just look at a computer and instantly write someone off.

The Spurs are handling it exactly how they should to ease Castle into eventually being a franchise lead guard for them. Of course they are better with Chris Paul on the floor than a rookie PG who didn’t play the position last year. That is common sense that’s not a knack on Castle’s future development at the position.

It’s like saying Shabazz shouldn’t eventually be a PG because we played better when Kemba was on the floor with him as a freshman. No freaking duh.

Also, there’s probably not any trade possible to get Fox to SA without including Castle. Trade talks start with him being involved most likely.

 

[aceboon]

You gotta give it a rest man, it's exhausting. You keep up this ish for DAYS and WEEKS

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

You gotta give it a rest man, it's exhausting. You keep up this ish for DAYS and WEEKS

im sorry stupid takes based on computers meant to devalue how good our players can be triggers me heavily.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

im sorry stupid takes based on computers meant to devalue how good our players can be triggers me heavily.

You think you’re in the right here. You can have your opinion, but it is not supported by facts and the way the game is played today. @ToolzieFan presented facts and an article from a great bball writer.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

You think you’re in the right here. You can have your opinion, but it is not supported by facts and the way the game is played today. @ToolzieFan presented facts and an article from a great bball writer.

Yes, the way the game is played as SGA is currently going for 50 on 2 made threes and Cade had 32 tonight on 1 made 3. Those are facts of top tier PGs that have similar physical traits that apply to Castle.

But you want him to be the next Holiday and Derrick White instead.

Those numbers are correct and factual. But the obvious caveat of rookie PGs are not going to look good numbers wise is clear. It’s not a gotcha but more like a duh. Those numbers don’t say anything.

Cade Cunningham’s numbers probably also looked horrible as a rookie. It did not mean he wasn’t going to develop into a great NBA PG.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Yes, the way the game is played as SGA is currently going for 50 on 2 made threes and Cade had 32 tonight on 1 made 3. Those are facts of top tier PGs that have similar physical traits that apply to Castle.

But you want him to be the next Holiday and Derrick White instead.

Those numbers are correct and factual. But the obvious caveat of rookie PGs are not going to look good numbers wise is clear. It’s not a gotcha but more like a duh. Those numbers don’t say anything.

Cade Cunningham’s numbers probably also looked horrible as a rookie. It did not mean he wasn’t going to develop into a great NBA PG.

Lmao. Would love for him to be the next Holiday. Jrue is a multi time All-Star and borderline HOFer, elite defensive guard. You are being unfair to the kid comparing him to elite offensive guards who came into the league with the pedigree of being such, which Steph didn’t. Enough.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Lmao. Would love for him to be the next Holiday. Jrue is a multi time All-Star and borderline HOFer, elite defensive guard. You are being unfair to the kid comparing him to elite offensive guards who came into the league with the pedigree of being such, which Steph didn’t. Enough.

You’re selling him short. Him and SGA had very similar numbers in college.

The only reason Steph didn’t have even better numbers is because Hurley had him take a back seat to a 6th year guard. And now fans like you can’t see him in anything other than the role that he was forced to play here.

People like you are the whole reason he had to go out his way to say he was a PG and wasn’t going to go anywhere that didn’t have a plan to treat him like one.

 

[ToolzieFan]

If it was up to you all players would not be allowed to learn, grow, and get better. You’d just look at a computer and instantly write someone off.

The Spurs are handling it exactly how they should to ease Castle into eventually being a franchise lead guard for them. Of course they are better with Chris Paul on the floor than a rookie PG who didn’t play the position last year. That is common sense that’s not a knack on Castle’s future development at the position.

It’s like saying Shabazz shouldn’t eventually be a PG because we played better when Kemba was on the floor with him as a freshman. No freaking duh.

Also, there’s probably not any trade possible to get Fox to SA without including Castle. Trade talks start with him being involved most likely.

I honestly don’t think our opinions about Castle are as far off as you think. I think he can be a lead guard, Pairing him with Chris Paul was a great way to was him into it. However, Wemby’s development has sped up their timeline and they’re not far from being a contender. They’re going to be too good too soon to met Castle develop at Cade’s pace. They need another star on this roster. Fox is available and wants to go there, and while Castle could be a lead guard, he could also be an all star in his current role. Being the #3 on a championship team isn’t a bad thing!

As for the trade, I don’t think they need to include Castle. I don’t know if they would. The Spurs have a ton of picks to trade. If the Kings insist on a player who helps them continue to compete now, there very well could be a third team. The only other logical landing spot who could clearly offer more than the Spurs is Houston. I don’t know if they’re inclined to make a move for Fox right now.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

I honestly don’t think our opinions about Castle are as far off as you think. I think he can be a lead guard, Pairing him with Chris Paul was a great way to was him into it. However, Wemby’s development has sped up their timeline and they’re not far from being a contender. They’re going to be too good too soon to met Castle develop at Cade’s pace. They need another star on this roster. Fox is available and wants to go there, and while Castle could be a lead guard, he could also be an all star in his current role. Being the #3 on a championship team isn’t a bad thing!

As for the trade, I don’t think they need to include Castle. I don’t know if they would. The Spurs have a ton of picks to trade. If the Kings insist on a player who helps them continue to compete now, there very well could be a third team. The only other logical landing spot who could clearly offer more than the Spurs is Houston. I don’t know if they’re inclined to make a move for Fox right now.

Now that I can agree with as far as the timelines possibly not matching with Wemby. Because it’s going to take 3-4 years before Castle can really be that guy similar to the other names.

Spurs do have a ton of picks but I’m not sure if the Kings just want to get picks back. Id imagine it’ll look similar to that Paul George to the Clippers trade where its players and a crazy amount of picks.

Houston would be my preferred place for Fox to go to too. They’re in such a great spot as a #2 seed with crazy cap space and picks. They also have a super inflated contract in FVV to use in any trade and Dillon Brooks if need be. They are in prime position to make a move and Ime might be the COY for what he’s doing with the team.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

@CardiacAndre7 aye bruh tune into TNT to see how a player can be effective offensively without taking practice 3s on a competitive team lol

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[superjohn]

Spurs would be dumb to do this if Castle is a part of this. Historically they aren't dumb.

 

[ToolzieFan]

I really think the Spurs can hold out here. Unless the Rockets get into this, no realistic team can really outbid the Spurs, even without Castle. The Rockets can offer something like Fred VanVleet, one of Reed Sheppard/Cam Whitmore, and multiple picks. They might be content rolling with their current roster, though.

 

[Scoe]

Damn Clingan with 5 fouls in 8 minutes, might as well keep him in there and let him foul out and learn. Blazers have nothing to play for as it is even though their destroying the Magic.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

@CardiacAndre7 aye bruh tune into TNT to see how a player can be effective offensively without taking practice 3s on a competitive team lol

You’re a funny guy. I’ll let you keep the discussion going yourself. Check back in when the season ends.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

You’re a funny guy. I’ll let you keep the discussion going yourself. Check back in when the season ends.

I'm just saying. 21 points from a second year player on 0 three point attempts.

You'd think stuff like this isn't possible because of what analytics say.

If I mentioned who he was coached by before going to the NBA to have this much discipline this board would go up in flames.