UConn Football .. there are a lot of things to look forward to seeing this season..

[Dizzy21]

No one said this class was going to help UConn go undefeated, YOU said the 2019 class was significantly worse than the past three, and this years class is the highest rated in 5 years according to 247. Check all your facts next time.

The fact is, pretty unanimously among every rating service is that this class is ranked well behind pretty much any UConn class previously when compared to the classes of our supposed peers. We even get on the SB Nation list of comparative classes vs the rest of our conference for being so far behind in recruiting this year that is is insane. But go on and tell me how great this class is.

 

[Waquoit]

You've come to the wrong place for optimism - the Yard is where it goes to die. You get points for trying, though.

Baloney. Just 2 years ago at this time the board was full of optimism.

 

[AndOne]

A classes ranking is not the same as a classes rating. The one on thin ice here is you!!! This class is definitely better than the last three.

2019......0.8100
2018......0.7972
2017......0.7939
2016......0.8019
2015......0.7928
2014......0.7791
2013......0.8132

Btw....the 2013 class had both Tim Boyle and Richard Lagow.

This would good if the UConn 2019 class played against the UConn 2014 class. Unfortunately, they play against other schools. Just looked at 247 and the avg rating for ECU is 0.8242, Temple 0.8175, SMU 0.8311, Tulane 0.8175. Tulsa and Navy were lower.

 

[huskyrob1]

The fact is, pretty unanimously among every rating service is that this class is ranked well behind pretty much any UConn class previously when compared to the classes of our supposed peers. We even get on the SB Nation list of comparative classes vs the rest of our conference for being so far behind in recruiting this year that is is insane. But go on and tell me how great this class is.

Wow, never say die...........spin things any way you want.............fact is your statement that the 2019 class is significantly worse than the prior three is gobbledygook, and no amount of spinning can change that. The facts are below...........


UConn football recruiting class ratings by 247

2019..............0.8100
2018..............0.7972
2017..............0.7939
2016..............0.8019
2015..............0.7928
2014..............0.7791
2013..............0.8132

Btw....the 2013 class had both Tim Boyle and Richard Lagow.

 

[huskymedic]

This would good if the UConn 2019 class played against the UConn 2014 class. Unfortunately, they play against other schools. Just looked at 247 and the avg rating for ECU is 0.8242, Temple 0.8175, SMU 0.8311, Tulane 0.8175. Tulsa and Navy were lower.

Does 247 have all of UConn’s 2019 commits listed yet? I’ve stopped looking.

 

[huskyrob1]

Does 247 have all of UConn’s 2019 commits listed yet? I’ve stopped looking.

For freshman they have 15 listed who have signed. Our top rated recruit chose UCONN over Illinois, Cincinnati, and Virginia Tech. His final two were VTech and Uconn. Obviously graduate transfers to UConn don't count.

 

[Dizzy21]

Wow, never say die......spin things any way you want...fact is your statement that the 2019 class is significantly worse than the prior three is gobbledygook, and no amount of spinning can change that. The facts are below......


UConn football recruiting class ratings by 247

2019....0.8100
2018....0.7972
2017....0.7939
2016....0.8019
2015....0.7928
2014....0.7791
2013....0.8132

Btw....the 2013 class had both Tim Boyle and Richard Lagow.

You can see below how idiotic your argument is. The 62 ranked team nationally and 4th ranked team in the AAC this year have around a .84 avg as opposed to the .81 UConn had when we had those class rankings 6 years ago.

By your standards, based on us having relatively the same RATING as 2013, your prediction would be that we basically have a top 60 or so class like back then. We don't even have close to a top 100 class. What you are saying is completely and utterly useless when attempting to form any conclusion about how well UConn will do.

2019....Rank 126....12 AAC
2018....Rank 106....12 AAC
2017....Rank 101....10 AAC
2016....Rank 99....12 AAC
2015....Rank 99....12 AAC
2014....Rank 110....11 AAC
2013....Rank 62....4 AAC

 

[huskyrob1]

You can see below how idiotic your argument is. The 62 ranked team nationally and 4th ranked team in the AAC this year have around a .84 avg as opposed to the .81 UConn had when we had those class rankings 6 years ago.

By your standards, based on us having relatively the same RATING as 2013, your prediction would be that we basically have a top 60 or so class like back then. We don't even have close to a top 100 class. What you are saying is completely and utterly useless when attempting to form any conclusion about how well UConn will do.

How stupid can you be? Player ratings are absolute they are not relative, they are created by rating services to give coaches a yardstick on a players talent, they are not perfect but are usually pretty accurate. It gages the physical skill level of the individual recruits. They are given to said players before they committ to a school for the benefit of the player and the coaches recruiting them. When a signed recruiting class is "Rated" it is the average of all the ratings of the individual players in the class.

You said the following....which I took issue with......

This year's recruiting was significantly worse than the prior three years.

.....and that is simply not true, and I pointed out that the average rating for 2019 is better than the prior three years, It has nothing to do with relative rankings of the classes of other teams. Does UConn need to recruit better, yes absolutely, but the fact is UConn recruiting in 2019 is definitely NOT worse than the prior three years.

 

[whaler11]

You've come to the wrong place for optimism - rentschler is where it goes to die. You get points for trying, though.

fify

 

[Dizzy21]

How stupid can you be? Player ratings are absolute they are not relative, they are created by rating services to give coaches a yardstick on a players talent, they are not perfect but are usually pretty accurate. It gages the physical skill level of the individual recruits. They are given to said players before they committ to a school for the benefit of the player and the coaches recruiting them. When a signed recruiting class is "Rated" it is the average of all the ratings of the individual players in the class.

You said the following....which I took issue with.



.....and that is simply not true, and I pointed out that the average rating for 2019 is better than the prior three years, It has nothing to do with relative rankings of the classes of other teams. Does UConn need to recruit better, yes absolutely, but the fact is UConn recruiting in 2019 is definitely NOT worse than the prior three years.

I suppose not as stupid as you, you were claiming that because the absolute ratings were better, that meant we had a more competitive class vs the competition and we had a good chance at doing better, but when you compare our class to other schools it is our WORST class ever, which is what the rankings tell you.

So keep arguing some idiocy about how are players are rated better than our player three years ago, insinuating that makes us a better team in the scheme of things, claiming that hope is out there to be better, when the facts say that our class is much worse compared to other classes, who are the actual real life people we actually play against.

 

[gtcam]

I suppose not as stupid as you, you were claiming that because the absolute ratings were better, that meant we had a more competitive class vs the competition and we had a good chance at doing better, but when you compare our class to other schools it is our WORST class ever, which is what the rankings tell you.

So keep arguing some idiocy about how are players are rated better than our player three years ago, insinuating that makes us a better team in the scheme of things, claiming that hope is out there to be better, when the facts say that our class is much worse compared to other classes, who are the actual real life people we actually play against.

Just give this crap up
Eye inspection, without stats, this class is definitely better than the past 4-5

 

[whaler11]

Just give this crap up
Eye inspection, without stats, this class is definitely better than the past 4-5

wow kudos to you for travelling the country to scout all those players

 

[huskyrob1]

I suppose not as stupid as you, you were claiming that because the absolute ratings were better, that meant we had a more competitive class vs the competition and we had a good chance at doing better, but when you compare our class to other schools it is our WORST class ever, which is what the rankings tell you.

Nope, never said it, only mentioned UCONN's 2019 class and it's higher rating than the previous three Uconn classes, never mentioned other teams being out recruited by Uconn, BUT YOU DID. Quite the contrary, I stated the opposite that other teams WERE out recruiting Uconn. Not only are you a complete moron, but now a liar as well. You quote any of my posts where I said what you claim I said.

 

[Waquoit]

The home games have better spacing this year, imo.

 

[Dizzy21]

Nope, never said it, only mentioned UCONN's 2019 class and it's higher rating than the previous three Uconn classes, never mentioned other teams being out recruited by Uconn, BUT YOU DID. Quite the contrary, I stated the opposite that other teams WERE out recruiting Uconn. Not only are you a complete moron, but now a liar as well. You quote any of my posts where I said what you claim I said.

Your whole post was that UConn would be better in actual games because of this recruiting class. The whole essence of why you started in this thread was to explain how this class would make UConn better, in accordance with the original post. Don't make me quote your whole post about how this class makes the difference. I will.

 

[Dizzy21]

Just give this crap up
Eye inspection, without stats, this class is definitely better than the past 4-5

Yeah, why don't you give up. I am pretty sure you miss the entire point of what is being said. They may be better than the last few UConn classes, but every other school's classes are better than their previous classes by more. UConn may have improved from previous classes but has fallen even more behind the competition by far as their class improved less than our peers.

It's pretty damn simple, UConn may have gotten better, but the people it plays got more better, thus UConn got worse when compared to them.

 

[huskyrob1]

Yeah, why don't you give up. I am pretty sure you miss the entire point of what is being said. They may be better than the last few UConn classes, but every other school's classes are better than their previous classes by more. UConn may have improved from previous classes but has fallen even more behind the competition by far as their class improved less than our peers.

It's pretty damn simple, UConn may have gotten better, but the people it plays got more better, thus UConn got worse when compared to them.

Back peddling maybe.........talk about contradictory posts. Wow

This year's recruiting was significantly worse than the prior three years.

 

[Dizzy21]

Back peddling maybe....talk about contradictory posts. Wow

You are the epitome of a person who thinks they are clever, but who just knows how to mimic things some people who you thought were clever say. I sincerely hope you are not a UConn graduate as you would make all UConn graduates look bad.

 

[CTMike]

I take it threads like this are not one of the things to look forward to this season?

 

[huskyrob1]

You are the epitome of a person who thinks they are clever, but who just knows how to mimic things some people who you thought were clever say. I sincerely hope you are not a UConn graduate as you would make all UConn graduates look bad.

Thank you for your interest in Uconn Football.

 

[UConnFranklin]

According to 247 who gives those stars, our class is currently ranked 126 this year. Last year it was 106, '17 was 101, and' 16 was 99. This year's recruiting was significantly worse than the prior three years.

They don’t count the transfers and Juco players in the rankings. By adding JUCOs and transfers it brings our rank down because you get points for everyone you recruit from 2 star up. So the pure number of recruits matter. Look st Navy and Army as an example. They have very few 3, 4. 5 star players but they are both ranked much higher than us. What you really have to look at for quality is the “avg of stars” rating. Using this we are closer to the middle of the AAC pack.
I think we have a stronger freshmen class this year than last but we have a very good transfer and JUCO class.

 

[whaler11]

what you really have to look at is who you are beating for players and who you are losing players to. by that ongoing metric things aint getting better anytime soon.

 

[CTMike]

what you really have to look at is who you are beating for players and who you are losing players to. by that ongoing metric things aint getting better anytime soon.

Whaler facts like this are so negative better keep them to yourself or people will have a sad.

 

[jdb50]

When we added experienced players at QB and receiver/RB it was the key to having success this season. It replaced graduation losses on offense with players that will not have to get bigger stronger faster etc to be productive. They need to jell on the field but with an experienced O-line in addition to Mensah and Dixon they should have a chance. The staff did a decent job here considering where we are win/loss wise right now.

 

[huskyrob1]

what you really have to look at is who you are beating for players and who you are losing players to. by that ongoing metric things aint getting better anytime soon.

Our top rated recruit (0.8451) chose us over Illinois, Cincinnati and Virginia Tech. His final two were us and Tech. Considering where we came from I think that's a pretty good pick up.

 

[CTMike]

Our top rated recruit (0.8451) chose us over Illinois, Cincinnati and Virginia Tech. His final two were us and Tech. Considering where we came from I think that's a pretty good pick up.

Hmm pretty good. How about the rest of the class? How about schools that beat us out for guys?

 

[Husky68]

Don't understand the "intentional inability to understand". 85 scholarships need to be filled. Quality and quantity are needed. Some rankings are sum of quality * quantity; others are just average of quality.

Alabama gets both quality and quantity so difference doesn't matter much. A UConn has trouble getting both quality and quantity. In 2019 the quantity was low being only 15. Any metric with quantity in it will be relatively low for UConn vs. any metric using only quality.

UConn 2019 needed some "more mature" players so HCRE2.0 has taken at least 5 "transfer" type recruits. Lowers any metric where quantity of recruits is used (and doesn't count transfers) but not where only quality is used.

Quality is good, quality with quantity is even better. 2019 average quality for 15 guys is good. 5 transfers which appear to each be quality guys is also good.

5 remaining scholarships if given to short term new transfers get much needed quantity of older kids for 2019, if can't accomplish and don't give any to current non scholarship players have for additional quantity in 2020 recruits.

I'm actually amazed at the quality of the recruits (on good side for those who need to have it spelled out) given how poorly HCRE2.0 coached in 2018 and the total lack (per his words) of concern about winning in 2018.

 

[ktuck911]

We still have some positives for our UConn football program..

1- we definately recruited kids that I think could make an immediate impact this fall with Jucos as well as a QB who I think might surprise a lot of you.. the QB comp will be good to see.. may the best man win..
2-the freshman that played last year are now sophomores with a year under their belt and more experienced equals better playing
3-Giufre is still here and will continue what he’s taught to the offense and Oline., and he’s done a decent job .. he’s had experience in the NFL with the Colts as the OL assistant coach from 2013-2017
4- Our new strength and conditioning coach is making a huge improvement with the team
5-Coach Spanos as our defensive coordinator brings his NFL experience from the Steelers and Redskins to coach our defense and we should see a huge improvement come fall..


I know Dunn leaving threw us all for a loop this morning .. there is not much we can do .. we are stuck in the AAC so we need to move on from the complaining.. will we get the top recruits?? Probably not .. but . I’m still believing Edsall can turn this around. Any Coach that gives 150000 of his salary to try to keep a coach on his staff tells me something about the man.. I’m in until this year plays out. Let’s see what Edsall does this year before we bail completely on the program..

I'm with you bro... It's extremely hard to see it (from the eyeball tests we had in the first 2 seasons), BUT, one thing that sticks out in my mind is how Edsall got results with this program the first time around. Unlike the past, he's got stuff to work with now... I believe he can do it.. I just hope we start seeing things this coming season.. We must show a pulse... Right now, that's all I need to see....

 

[HuskyDogArt]

According to 247 who gives those stars, our class is currently ranked 126 this year. Last year it was 106, '17 was 101, and' 16 was 99. This year's recruiting was significantly worse than the prior three years.

Who cares...? Let's say that UConn got 7 players (1 a 5 star, the other are unknown <1 from Vermont, 1 from New Hampshire, 1 from Alaska, 1 from Japan, 1 from Korea and 1 from Estonia.> and ECU got 7 5 star players from Texas, ECU would be rated higher than us, but let's say that the class won the AAC. The recruiting class won't be adjusted to make us #1.

 

[gioff2323]

Thank you for your interest in Uconn Football.

Tell me U2 aren’t done. I’m waiting to hear who’s dad is bigger. Please reconvene.