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UConn Football clearing the decks for next Coach?

Skiblets said:
This numnutz writes an article and doesn’t ask UConn for a response. Total hit job
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Oh he got a response:

->.The sources said the university is acting in compliance with contract language. If the head coach leaves or is terminated (as Randy Edsall was recently), first-year coaches must be notified of their impending termination within three months and compensated with three months' pay. Other coaches must be notified within six months and compensated for six months. The sources said coaches will be notified officially this week via a letter from the university.

"The information tweeted (by The Day) regarding the coaches being told they would not be returning for next year is inaccurate," University spokesperson Pat McKenna wrote in an e-mail. "The coaches are under contract and that contract, along with any relevant obligations under the collective bargaining agreement, will be honored."

One coach, who did not want to speak for the record in fear of retribution, said he understands the contract stipulations, but is "disappointed (the university) won't give us a chance this year to win some games and then have a conversation." <-
 
noeynox said:
Not a single position group has stood out so far. I had high hopes for the DL.
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We knew going into this season that OL and the secondary was going to areas of concern. I was hoping that our DL would be very good. In some ways the play of our defensive line has disappointed me the more than any other position group.
 
Not trying to knock any of these coaches but the majority are punching way above their weight class in their current positions at Uconn. Some will find employment at the G5 or FCS Level, but a few may be out of the game entirely or dropped to even lower levels of the game needing to work their way back up. No coach worth his salt is keeping any of these guys on their staff.
 
Pretty sure the administration has seen all they need to see from these coaches. You can't make chicken salad from chicken......well you know the rest.
 
This board is the only place who doesn't know this is happening and yes it applies to Spanos, none of them are coming back and of course they won't give up on the season. They know the deal and they know they need to show some level of competence for future employment.
 
Assistant coaches effectively serve at the pleasure of the Head Coach. If a new Head Coach is hired, I doubt existing staff have 30% chance of keeping a position - if there is a pre-existing relationship with the new hire. Either way I assume that assistant coaches are trying out for their next job every week. You never know when your HC gets a better offer & maybe he does not take you with him. This was a non-story.

Last regular season weekend is Nov25-Nov27. Early signing day is Dec15. I assume that 95% of our candidates are currently a HC or OC/DC elsewhere. Do we have a new coach before the 27th? Or is it interviews Monday - Wednesday with new coach Dec 1 or 2?
 
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superjohn said:
This board is the only place who doesn't know this is happening and yes it applies to Spanos, none of them are coming back and of course they won't give up on the season. They know the deal and they know they need to show some level of competence for future employment.
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Well a few here and Mike:
 
noeynox said:
This guy man. What new coach is going to keep this group of coaches? Maybe one guy gets kept but its pretty standard for coaches to come in with their whole new crew.
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They follow the prescribed notification language in the AAUP contract for this scenario - they get ripped by someone in the media. They don’t follow the prescribed notification language in the AAUP contract for this scenario and incur unnecessary expense they get ripped by someone in the media. No win.
 
huskymedic said:
They follow the prescribed notification language in the AAUP contract for this scenario - they get ripped by someone in the media. They don’t follow the prescribed notification language in the AAUP contract for this scenario and incur unnecessary expense they get ripped by someone in the media. No win.
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this X1000

And the same "reporter" would be the one doing the ripping
 
huskymedic said:
Well a few here and Mike:
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Every college football or college basketball program have decommits when there is a coaching change. It’s expected. And, wouldn’t recruits want to see who the new coach is and wouldn’t the new coach want to make sure the existing recruits fit his system? Isn’t that how Tim Boyle ended up at UConn after the coaching change at BC? DiMauro is a troll and I’m surprised a CT newspaper employs him.
 
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noeynox said:
This guy man. What new coach is going to keep this group of coaches? Maybe one guy gets kept but its pretty standard for coaches to come in with their whole new crew.
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Benedict knows he needs a homerun hire, first sign you're unhireable is if you want to keep any of these coaches on the staff.
 
huskysupporter said:
Good - need a clean slate.

Hope there are more good changes coming such as:
  • increasing head coaching salary allotment
  • increasing assistant coach salary pool
  • relaxing admission standards for the football program
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This is an unprecedented move by DB. It sheds the worst light on the program. It screams minor league. The College Football Coaches Association should issue a statement on all of this. The HC steps out with a golden parachute and allows the AD to start the expiration clock on these coaches, including the former HC’s kid. A six month severance turns into 3 months. Shameful. Big league programs do not oper like this.. Fact: Dave Benedict inherited a football program coming off a bowl game. He is the ONLY constant in this 5 year fiasco. Spin THAT any wat you’d like. Wake up, this place is DOOMED with this AD.
 
superjohn said:
Benedict knows he needs a homerun hire, first sign you're unhireable is if you want to keep any of these coaches on the staff.
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It has nothing to do with keeping them. It’s doing the right thing and employing them until the job is done. The six month severance is a clause in their contracts. That, clock should start after the last game, not now. It becomes a three month severance. Do you believe that these guys are going to monitor academics, recruit and do all the detail waork expected of them. The stuff that each opposing staff will be doing? It’s gonna get historically ugly.
 
Ellington said:
It has nothing to do with keeping them. It’s doing the right thing and employing them until the job is done. The six month severance is a clause in their contracts. That, clock should start after the last game, not now. It becomes a three month severance. Do you believe that these guys are going to monitor academics, recruit and do all the detail waork expected of them. The stuff that each opposing staff will be doing? It’s gonna get historically ugly.
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historically ugly? ha- already been done.

recruiting? already was in a tough spot when a new HC is pending.

you can't possibly set the program back further than it is now.

next coach will have a busy jan/feb.
 
Ellington said:
Not standard at all. Cheap. Good luck with recruiting. I’m sure the staff is just burning up the phone lines working late on recruits. This is going to redefine “UGLY”
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Honestly, if we lose recruits, how much worse can the results be on the field? The margins of defeat is 7 points more than current? We pretty much need a miracle hire. I'm open to a down on his luck coach looking for a chance at personal and football redemption at this point.
 
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Ellington said:
This is an unprecedented move by DB. It sheds the worst light on the program. It screams minor league.
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Really? Because it kind of screams “accountability” to me.

As a sidenote, why is it the people with the lowest post count who always seem perpetually outraged at whatever our program does?
 
Exit 4 said:
Randy or someone on the staff leaked this....on purpose.
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@Exit 4 ... Absolutely no attack you bring a lot to the forum. Having said that one should provide a link or source of information when accusing people of leaked information. This type of thing puts one into the same play pen as DiMaruro .....

Again no personal attack here but anyone that follows the game knows what is taking place, players, coaches and recruits know it is simply standard operating procedure. Nobody is leaking anything, its just a matter of which step of the process is made public for those that don't already get it.

The only thing leaking is us old fhhats that have to hit the men's room twice a quarter after tailgating. ;)
 
Woof 101 said:
@Exit 4 ... Absolutely no attack you bring a lot to the forum. Having said that one should provide a link or source of information when accusing people of leaked information. This type of thing puts one into the same play pen as DiMaruro .....

Again no personal attack here but anyone that follows the game knows what is taking place, players, coaches and recruits know it is simply standard operating procedure. Nobody is leaking anything, its just a matter of which step of the process is made public for those that don't already get it.

The only thing leaking is us old fhhats that have to hit the men's room twice a quarter after tailgating. ;)
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I’m not going to bother attempting to address all your points.
On “leaking” - maybe that was a poor word choice. How about if I had used the word “nudge”? Does it read better now?

I’m sure ole Randy nudged DiMauro to put this semi sleeping dog out there. Just like DiMauro answered the call a short time ago to advance Randy’s case that overzealous high academic standards are also to blame for his failures.

Leaked is a poor word- all I think Randy did was remind DiMauro there was something more to stir in public.
 
Ellington said:
The six month severance is a clause in their contracts. That, clock should start after the last game, not now. It becomes a three month severance.
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This interpretation doesn't seem correct. The contract has an "and/or" clause regarding notice and compensation:



According to DiMauro's story, "The coaches, per the sources, will be given six months' severance pay". This is in compliance with the "and/or" clause in the contract. This is pretty generous. When I was laid off, I got one week of severance pay for every year that I worked.
 
CL82 said:
Really? Because it kind of screams “accountability” to me.

As a sidenote, why is it the people with the lowest post count who always seem perpetually outraged at whatever our program does?
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Because it is the affected person posting. Now we just have to figure out which coach.

By the way, if I was as bad at my job as these coaches, I am not collecting a 6 month severance.
 
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1. It seems pretty clear that the coaches get 6 months of severance pay from the date of termination (other than 1st year coaches). There would be little reason to nickel and dime around the edges as some project.

2. When you clean house, it means you inevitably throw out some good with the bad. Yes, we are going to lose recruits, and we might also lose a few players to the portal. Cleaning house is painful and done out of necessity.

3. I tend to agree that if AD Dave gave them notice prematurely, it was needlessly harmful and demotivating to the staff trying to salvage something and keep unity. But, unless the interim staff literally pulls a miracle out of the hat with at least 4 or 5 wins, they have no shot and they must know that. Anybody on that staff must view this as an interview for their next landing spot. It’s a nance to burnish their resume by showing turn around capability.

4. My impression is AD Dave is not a total box of rocks, so whatever was done was done with a purpose. This sounds like it’s coming from somebody with sour grapes. DiMauro’s reference to recruit calls might give a clue.
 
I would bet this is pretty standard practice. And I suspect ADDave wants a guy in place, at least named by the early recruiting signing day.

Who thinks USC’s coaches expect to be back next season? Anyone? Bueller?
 
Strange how kids remain firmly committed to a program that manages to find a way to descend further and further every week past even our own expectations. Then the school makes a decision to remove the staff responsible for the issue and suddenly the recruits have a Come to Jesus moment about whether they really want to go or not? Imagine AD pulls an ace and lands someone like Moorhead, recruits are really going to say "Gee, I dunno Wally. I made a promise to Edsall."?
 
freescooter said:
I would bet this is pretty standard practice. And I suspect ADDave wants a guy in place, at least named by the early recruiting signing day.

Who thinks USC’s coaches expect to be back next season? Anyone? Bueller?
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Agreed. The issue is that Randy was gone so early in the season and AD David Benedict knew in order to salvage recruiting and get a staff in place these notifications needed to get out
 
jostar1 said:
This interpretation doesn't seem correct. The contract has an "and/or" clause regarding notice and compensation:



According to DiMauro's story, "The coaches, per the sources, will be given six months' severance pay". This is in compliance with the "and/or" clause in the contract. This is pretty generous. When I was laid off, I got one week of severance pay for every year that I worked.
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You got more than me. I had to take a 401k loan for my severance.
 
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