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UCONN and the MAC.

Vowelguy said:
The MAC was in the Northeast when UMass was a FB-only member. The MAC ended that arrangement, so it wasnt all that valuable.
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We don't know how much value being in the Northeast brought to the MAC back in 2015 or how much its members benefited. At that time there was the P5 and G5 and that was that. UMass wouldn't go all in so it was dismissed. The MAC was probably rated higher than the Sun Belt and C-USA. Now it's in last place. The MAC lives entirely in the shadow of the B1G and only the ACC has a presence in New England. Seems like a clear opportunity to expand where no other G5 conference has a presence. Add 2 or 3 programs on the coast, rebrand and get rid of "mid" and who knows.
 
JohnFSilver said:
If MAC football gives us more money, we go mac football.

Fans don’t want MAC. Then buy tickets and go.
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...but they likely wont. Explaining the MAC's New ESPN Deal

Since then, Brett McMurphy of ESPN (and several others) have reported that this 13-year deal with ESPN is worth more than $100 million, or roughly about $8 million a season. That factors out to about $670,000 per school, per season, a big improvement over the roughly $120,000 each school received under the previous $1.4 million a year deal, a nearly 500 percent increase in annual payouts.

We would probably have to double our existing CBSSN payout (~500k/yr as memory serves) to even offset some of the torpedoing of our ticket sales. Mind you, as well, that the 670k / school from the MAC contract is for all sports - i doubt our conference bretheren would be thrilled about us getting anywhere in the vicinity of a full share for football-only.
 
NowInStorrs said:
Honestly let's say those two go to the MWC. If the MWC will take us, that'd be a nice place to park football. Plus it'd give that conference some bigger name schools and a NY/northeast presence. Could work. And if we had to play a couple basketball games against SDSU, UNLV, or New Mexico, then alright.
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Agreed - would much rather be in the MWC. They are already at 12 (perhaps 14 with the addition of OSU/WSU), so to get to 16 we would need need to perhaps drag the crapfest that is UMass with us.

No idea why the MWC would want the two of us, though…
 
Purple Stein said:
Agreed - would much rather be in the MWC. They are already at 12 (perhaps 14 with the addition of OSU/WSU), so to get to 16 we would need need to perhaps drag the crapfest that is UMass with us.

No idea why the MWC would want the two of us, though…
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Not much, but we could offer noon football, which MWC can't really do (unless there teams want to play 10AM / 9AM games every weekend). Plus we could do a 50% shares (still more then independent) and then maybe MWC can go to Zags and give them the other 50% to boost basketball. Also based on how leagues are going, people are getting rid of East / West division, so they can go uneven with rivalry games (OSUvsWSU / CSU vs / Nev vs UNLV / ect). Of course we would not have a rivalry game. It wont happen but it could work.
 
Tfoyle said:
Not much, but we could offer noon football, which MWC can't really do (unless there teams want to play 10AM / 9AM games every weekend). Plus we could do a 50% shares (still more then independent) and then maybe MWC can go to Zags and give them the other 50% to boost basketball. Also based on how leagues are going, people are getting rid of East / West division, so they can go uneven with rivalry games (OSUvsWSU / CSU vs / Nev vs UNLV / ect). Of course we would not have a rivalry game. It wont happen but it could work.
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This has much more positive going for it, compared to the completely useless MAC and CUSA takes.

1) MW pays 4M / school. There is wiggle to help us on the financial end.
2) None of the midweek throwaway games
3) Especially if they end up adding the PAC leftovers, this is better football.
4) No streaming only nonsense - did everyone forget how bad the FIU game looked last year?
 
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From a financial standpoint, the only option which moves the needle is an invite from a power conference. All of these G5 options provide solutions for scheduling and bowl invites, but won’t solve our financial woes.
 
Purple Stein said:
Agreed - would much rather be in the MWC. They are already at 12 (perhaps 14 with the addition of OSU/WSU), so to get to 16 we would need need to perhaps drag the crapfest that is UMass with us.

No idea why the MWC would want the two of us, though…
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I don't know why they would want UMass but I do think we have something to sell to them. No idea who you'd pair with us though. Temple? Nah. Buffalo? Doubt it. App State is in some mountains... if we're still pretending conference names matter at all.
 
Honestly I think UConn should be talking to Oregon ST and Warrington ST to see if we set up some kind of affiliation. It is the best chance we got staying revelant while getting a decent media deal. We should be talking to them to see if we can set up something for all of us for their next media deal.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Honestly I think UConn should be talking to Oregon ST and Warrington ST to see if we set up some kind of affiliation. It is the best chance we got staying revelant while getting a decent media deal. We should be talking to them to see if we can set up something for all of us for their next media deal.
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10000000%. Agree to an alternating basketball H/H if you need to and sign a long contract for football home and homes during the same period. Honestly I know we are competitively way behind OSU and WSU but with us having the CBSSN deal we can offer them games guaranteed to be on TV in an East Coast time window that they should win.. this makes too much sense
 
Going to the MAC would kill the hoop programs.
 
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NowInStorrs said:
I don't know why they would want UMass but I do think we have something to sell to them. No idea who you'd pair with us though. Temple? Nah. Buffalo? Doubt it. App State is in some mountains... if we're still pretending conference names matter at all.
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Well we do have the Appalachian Trail in CT. And ski jumping.

 
Kolumbo said:
Well we do have the Appalachian Trail in CT. And ski jumping.

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Lol, we barely have the Appalachian trail in Connecticut it just nips the north west corner!
 
pepband99 said:
F. No.

1) Our current schedule is better
2) We don't play mid week
3) Anyone arguing our football fanbase will be jazzed up by playing directional midwestern schools (and Buffalo) needs their head examined.

As a Season ticket holders, this would be the end for me.
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Then you are not a real fan of the program.

We need to be in a conference for football to survive. Mora has made that clear. The only two independent schools (ND doesn't count since they have ACC affiliation) are also the two worst FBS programs: us and UMass. Things will only get worse due to NIL and P5 to P4. Schools will have less room to schedule out of conference, and we are not an attractive out of conference opponent.

The dissolution of the PAC and the NIL decision were the iceberg that hit the independence ship. We are taking on water and sinking is a matter of time. We need a conference lifeboat now.
 
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BlueandOG said:
Then you are not a real fan of the program.

We need to be in a conference for football to survive. Mora has made that clear. The only two independent schools (ND doesn't count since they have ACC affiliation) are also the two worst FBS programs: us and UMass. Things will only get worse due to NIL and P5 to P4. Schools will have less room to schedule out of conference, and we are not an attractive out of conference opponent.

The dissolution of the PAC and the NIL decision were the iceberg that hit the independence ship. We are taking on water and sinking is a matter of time. We need a conference lifeboat now.
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It's one thing if our hand is forced. We are not there yet.

We need football revenue to survive as much, or more, than the competitive points Coach Mora is (rightly) making. Joining MAC or CUSA is likely revenue-negative, and also has serious logistical drawbacks.

You can also pound sand about questioning my fanhood - I've been a season ticket holder for 20 years, and went to many games at Memorial before that. I'll be sure to think of you when I'm in Knoxville this weekend.
 
ZooCougar said:
I've walked the length of it in the state. Not bad.

Saying it is just a nip is pretty ridiculous.
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I hear ya. Tried to do it in one day and bailed in the 30s somewhere past Mohawk.
 
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Who cares how much of CT, a tiny state to begin with, touches the App Trail. The ocean barely touches CT land at all.

Now I'm really intrigued.

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Kolumbo said:
Who cares how much of CT, a tiny state to begin with, touches the App Trail. The ocean barely touches CT land at all.

Now I'm really intrigued.

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I've section hiked it but I always thought it would be cool to through hike the whole thing.
 
Is there any real talk between UConn and the MAC for football only or is this just for fun idea?
 
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Could this happen?
The question is SHOULD IT.
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Okay, I been fully risen from my slumber...

Respectfully, effff the MAC. I will not go quietly on a UConn surrender re: conference BS. So long as the rank, fraudulent operations in Syracuse and Chestnut Hill are luxuriating in undeserved confines of a P-4 conference, I will never (in a million effffing years) concede any credibility to those two sorry examples of P-4 schools.

Here's what is on the horizon IMO. College football is about ready to explode. There will be about 30-40 CFP programs soon enough. Many current members of P-4 conferences are going to be relegated to 1-AA status (FCS). Syracuse and BC are headed there. (Vandy, GT , WF etc )

So hang in there UConn! Maybe we end in FCS status for a while, but we'll have a chance to escape! As far as BB is concerned, we need a super conference of D-1 hoop teams. Dump the NCAA for March Madness. Get the best BB teams together and do the same thing. In the meantime, the Syracuse and BC BB teams will be rightfully be looking for a home... (And it ain't in any top 40 or 50 group of D-1 BB teams!)

Think outside the box - play to and take advantage of our strengths. We can get there in football, but we are already there in BB. Syracuse and BC, with their hacks at ESPN, have been promoted despite their "empty suit" status in both football and basketball.

On basic principles, I feel that I should punch the next blowhard from Syracuse or BC that I meet, but I will wait for things to work out... We'll see...
 
Marbles90 said:
I replied to you on the CUSA thread, so I'll copy/paste it here...

Yeah, the MAC sukks. But newsflash, our football sukks too!!

1) Schedule is better: Better for what? We are barely competitive against G5 teams. Having a Maryland or Duke on our schedule is good why? It looks better on paper? We are getting our doors blown off against those teams and Mora has come right out and said we can't compete with them due to $$. "Dark days ahead..."

2) Mid week games: Like the attendance at the Rent would go from 12K to 8K or 7K? OK. Would that matter? Nobody goes anyway. Somebody said it in another thread, for those of us who actually go to games, I am enjoying competitive games against G5 schools vs going in there knowing we have no chance against a team like Duke. I would show up on a Wednesday night for game that might decide going to a conference championship.

We are terrible in football and independence it making it worse. Our brand is basketball. That's why we left the AAC for the Big East. But the collateral damage was to football (yeah our hires were bad, etc. but it is where we are now).

We need to have something to play for and a way to truly rebuild. We are not getting into a P4 conference. We know that. We are not getting a football only invite to the AAC and probably not from Sunbelt or MWC. So what difference does it make if only football plays in the MAC?
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The MAC sucks and it is a dead end.

Sorry I would rather stay independent then go to the MAC or CUSA
 
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