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My suspicion with MHver is that he's someone with mild connections but if you notice he always posts things that'll string people along to keep reading his tweets. He rarely, if ever, tweets something to the effect of "Doesn't look like Team A is going to Conference B," which would mean fans of Team A would stop reading him. Instead, he keeps stringing people along with vague possibilities.
 
Danzz said:
ACC football will be weaker if Uconn and Cincy get invited. It will likely mean FSU, GTech, Clemson or UVA left. Or they could all leave.
But I'll guarantee one thing if Uconn and Cincy join the ACC: it would be the best basketball conference by a huge margin. None of the possible ACC defectors bring much to the basketball table.
I'd like us to continue to play Cuse, Pitt and extend BC's misery. But I'm a basketball first relic.
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Maybe the B1G should consider strengthening its BBall offerings since the ACC is about to eat its lunch?
 
Why does anyone listen or even talk about MHVER3 biggest joke ever. This guy knows nothing and just makes it all up. Not saying that he isn't right, just that he made this up. Look at all his tweets, pretty much nothing he has said has come true. He also changes to a new theory by the hour. He has said that he has confirmed a ton of different things that just havnt and never will happen.
 
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huskyniner said:
I hate this guy. He is a fraud.

That being said, I would love this move -- for now. As mentioned above, a severely weakened ACC is better for us than the NNBE. And if the ACC is torn apart in the coming years, guess who will have a new $1.1B tech park, basketball practice facility and (hopefully) a new AAU membership? We will be ripe for the picking by the B1G.
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I hate him, I hate him, I hate him, he doesn't know a thing_ _ _ _ but, I sure hope he's right. Just kidding, but we are all, at this point, grabbing any straw.
 


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ACC is close to offering Uconn full membership and Cincy in FB only with provisions to join in all sports in the future.

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Both schools would receive a drastically smaller share if ACC tv revenues for quite some time.

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ACC was warned by espn that MWC was going to double down on both those schools in an effort to get some eastern penetration.
 
If its anything less than 5 years, we'd have to take it once the BE exit fees/credits are settled.

More than 5, would require some legwork.

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Cincy FB only for now because... ? In what alternate universe is there any explanation for that? Maybe it's something something Notre Dame.
 
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junglehusky said:
Cincy FB only for now because... ? In what alternate universe is there any explanation for that? Maybe it's something something Notre Dame.
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This!

MHver always manages to add a little something to his tweets that shows why the rest of his ramblings are nonsense. This time, he put Cincy as a football-only, even though they would likely be one of the top 2 or top 3 basketball schools in the aforementioned conference. They are also a fair amount closer geographically than we are, making an all-sports add for them even more likely (or even less likely for us).

Ahh....good ole MHver!!! :confused:
 
RUwinning said:
Why does anyone listen or even talk about MHVER3 biggest joke ever. This guy knows nothing and just makes it all up. Not saying that he isn't right, just that he made this up. Look at all his tweets, pretty much nothing he has said has come true. He also changes to a new theory by the hour. He has said that he has confirmed a ton of different things that just havnt and never will happen.
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What are your sources telling you about realignment?
 
Why is everyone taking this seriously? The Catholics have no exit fee.
 
One of the bigger potential value adds if the ACC were to pickup 2 more BE programs would be leverage in obtaining MSG for an annual or biennial conference tournament. That has to be a major consideration - I know that FB is driving this, but penetrating NYC with hoops to build conference brand can be huge. NYC is a hoops city first and it's heart will be won by hoops first, but there is a large window there to build the conference brand via MSG. Then football can penetrate, using a Uconn, play a game in the Meadowlands or Yankee Stadium annually. Thoughts?

What is the status on MSG? Do the Catholics reserve those rights? I can't imagine MSG being psyched about housing that league tourney with it's small fan bases and little buzz, SJU/tradition or not.
 
Playing for the ACC with reduced revenue would be more than what we could get in the NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNBE right?
 
RuffRuff said:
One of the bigger potential value adds if the ACC were to pickup 2 more BE programs would be leverage in obtaining MSG for an annual or biennial conference tournament. That has to be a major consideration - I know that FB is driving this, but penetrating NYC with hoops to build conference brand can be huge. NYC is a hoops city first and it's heart will be won by hoops first, but there is a large window there to build the conference brand via MSG. Then football can penetrate, using a Uconn, play a game in the Meadowlands or Yankee Stadium annually. Thoughts?

What is the status on MSG? Do the Catholics reserve those rights? I can't imagine MSG being psyched about housing that league tourney with it's small fan bases and little buzz, SJU/tradition or not.
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Would the southern ACC schools want to play a bball tournament at MSG? I would sinus for 1-2 Games a year in NYC/NJ
 
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From a BB perspective Duke, UNC, Pitt, Syr, UofL, Cincy, and Uconn in the same conference tourney would be awesome. It's also one that would be worthy of MSG and NYC...
 
UConnDan97 said:
This!

MHver always manages to add a little something to his tweets that shows why the rest of his ramblings are nonsense. This time, he put Cincy as a football-only, even though they would likely be one of the top 2 or top 3 basketball schools in the aforementioned conference. They are also a fair amount closer geographically than we are, making an all-sports add for them even more likely (or even less likely for us).

Ahh....good ole MHver!!! :confused:
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There is no way that Cinci's basketball is valued more highly than UConn's. None. Also, the academics and regional aspects strongly disfavor Cinci compared to UConn as do the markets and brand awareness. Cinci does not have Louisville's brand.

The ACC is at 14+1. They need one more all sports program and one more football program to pair with Notre Dame's Olympics. I actually took some interest in this one because this wrinkle makes some sense.
 
What's the alternative, Greensborough? A completely cultureless pit of a city. Have you ever watched the utter sterile bore known as the ACC tournament? There is a reason that the BE conference has become easily the most anticipated college hoops tourney. With so many ACC alum in NYC and the venue/city itself, I could see a tourney every other year something that even southerners getting excited about. With NYC obnoxiously flooded with Duke, UNC, Cuse, Uconn sweatshirts annually, it could use as a marketing opportunity to begin spinning it's overall product.
 
HuskyHawk said:
There is no way that Cinci's basketball is valued more highly than UConn's. None. Also, the academics and regional aspects strongly disfavor Cinci compared to UConn as do the markets and brand awareness. Cinci does not have Louisville's brand.

The ACC is at 14+1. They need one more all sports program and one more football program to pair with Notre Dame's Olympics. I actually took some interest in this one because this wrinkle makes some sense.
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First of all, I never said that Cincy's basketball team was more valuable than ours, because that isn't even close to being true. My error was thinking that MHver was referring to the Mountain West adding Cincy as a football only and adding UConn as an all-sports. That's what made me say, "WTF???"

After looking at the actual tweet (and not a response to the tweet), I see that he was referring to the idea of Cincy as a football-only in the ACC, not the Mountain West. At which point, I would still say, "WTF?" That "wrinkle" doesn't make any sense whatsoever, if one assumes that the idea of partially adding Notre Dame was for the end goal of FULLY adding Notre Dame (a moment in time that I will still only believe when I see it).

And really, who here still believes that this guy has any semblance of credibility at all...
 
UConnDan97 said:
First of all, I never said that Cincy's basketball team was more valuable than ours, because that isn't even close to being true. My error was thinking that MHver was referring to the Mountain West adding Cincy as a football only and adding UConn as an all-sports. That's what made me say, "WTF???"

After looking at the actual tweet (and not a response to the tweet), I see that he was referring to the idea of Cincy as a football-only in the ACC, not the Mountain West. At which point, I would still say, "WTF?" That "wrinkle" doesn't make any sense whatsoever, if one assumes that the idea of partially adding Notre Dame was for the end goal of FULLY adding Notre Dame (a moment in time that I will still only believe when I see it).

And really, who here still believes that this guy has any semblance of credibility at all...
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Probably would add Cincy for all sports when ND is added for football in MHVER's mind. I'm not saying it's realistic, but that is what he is implying.
 
caw said:
Probably would add Cincy for all sports when ND is added for football in MHVER's mind. I'm not saying it's realistic, but that is what he is implying.
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With a magical 18th team to be named at a later date, I suppose? Perhaps he believes USF will ride it out until then or something....that guy has no more clue than anyone else, and perhaps even less clues than that...
 
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The ACC has no desire to play their tour. at MSG. Duke, State, UNc and WF want to keep it on tobacco road (Greensboro) also that is where they get their best attendance because one of these schools is almost always in the finals.
 
mcs333 said:
The ACC has no desire to play their tour. at MSG. Duke, State, UNc and WF want to keep it on tobacco road (Greensboro) also that is where they get their best attendance because one of these schools is almost always in the finals.
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This just couldn't be further from the truth; especially going so far as to say "no desire". If the option was open for the Catholic church to have the nativity scene relived again, they would pick MSG as the location
 
This freak probably does internet searches for his twitter handle and feels better about himself when he sees people talking about him. WHY the fuck do we use him as a source of info? This is worse than the National Enquirer. At least the National Enquirer is funny.
 
Over the last 8 years (or probably longer) there has only been one big time college bb tournament and that was played in MSG.

The ACC tournament over the last 8 years has been a JOKE. There literally are at most 2 or 3 exciting games. Even Greensboro has had tepid attendance save for Carolina games. And even tickets for the 2011 Duke vs Carolina final were not that difficult to buy.

ACC bb fans don't get that excited over the tourny, there are many rumours that Roy would rather rest his teams for the big dance. I don't think ACC fans feel that strongly about MSG, maybe once would be fun, but the ACC tournament will be in Greensboro for the most part. Their experiement moving it to other locations over the past few years was dreadful.

So i hope Jim B likes eating Stamey's bbq and staying at the Embassy Suites here in Greensboro. Its big time for Cuse bb now. Jim, or course would prefer staying at Grandover but unfortunately other ACC schools have that rented out for the next 3 years.
 
I live in Cary NC in between UNC,Duke and State. Their is no way they want to play the tournament in MSG. It's a great venue if you are from up North. I grew up in Manfield, lived and went to school in Boston. Been a husky fan for 50 years. The Tobacco roads schools hate when the tour. is played in Dc , Fla. or Atl.They want Greensboro to be the perm. home. Yes I agree Greensboro is the pits but it in right in the middle between Char. Winston Salem and Raleigh where a large majority of Tobacco road alum live.

Every tour. is a sell out in advance. Tickets only go to top donors. So attendance at specific games can be low but every ticket has been sold.
 
I think a lot of you are comparing what the ACC has looked like versus what it will look like beginning next year. Of course the fans from the state of NC don't want it as MSG but that will have absolutely zero impact on the decision by the commissioner of whether or not he would try it there or not. With the Big East gone, and an entire week and weekend worth of conference exposure in NYC, the ACC would sign up in a heartbeat. At the very least as an experiment. You shouldn't need any more proof than NC State's advertising for the Dec. 4th Jimmy V classic on taxi cabs in Manhattan...
 
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