UConn 95 and SC today

[asuwish]

Ok spoiler alert. Unless something drastic happens SC wins the next two games easily. No team left has the size or depth to compete. I see two comparisons to other teams. 95 UConn women. Lobo and Wolters at 6'4 and 6'7 and Elliott meant no team could keep the off the boards or match up defensively. Teams wanted to put their best defender on Lobo, now Boston, and that means some 6'3 or so player has to defend Wolters or Cordoso and that is not happening (I know Cordoso doesn't start but when she plays they have no answer at all). The other comparison is today's UConn men's team. Clingan comes off the bench and other teams just have no answer and Uconn doesn't play both bigs together. Drew Timme just could not figure out what to do against Clingan. Cardoso is the player you can't match up with. The other final four teams also have no answer. The other bigs on SC are also impossible to keep off the glass against undersized defenders. Iowa's bigs are to slow as well. They will get in foul trouble. It will be one of the great upsets ever if Dawn isn't holding the trophy Sunday night.

 

[Centerstream]

I think that there is always a chance of a David and Goliath story in the Final weekend. Many factors can come into play.
Dallas, 2017 immediately comes to mind...

 

[Charliebball]

Ok spoiler alert. Unless something drastic happens SC wins the next two games easily. No team left has the size or depth to compete. I see two comparisons to other teams. 95 UConn women. Lobo and Wolters at 6'4 and 6'7 and Elliott meant no team could keep the off the boards or match up defensively. Teams wanted to put their best defender on Lobo, now Boston, and that means some 6'3 or so player has to defend Wolters or Cordoso and that is not happening (I know Cordoso doesn't start but when she plays they have no answer at all). The other comparison is today's UConn men's team. Clingan comes off the bench and other teams just have no answer and Uconn doesn't play both bigs together. Drew Timme just could not figure out what to do against Clingan. Cardoso is the player you can't match up with. The other final four teams also have no answer. The other bigs on SC are also impossible to keep off the glass against undersized defenders. Iowa's bigs are to slow as well. They will get in foul trouble. It will be one of the great upsets ever if Dawn isn't holding the trophy Sunday night.

I'm hoping some of South Carolina's front court dominance ends after this season if Boston, Amihere, Beal and Saxton leave........

 

[visitingcock]

Way too early?

 

[Rowdy831]

Going into the tournament I thought 2 teams could beat SC, UCONN and Iowa. UCONN would need a great game from it's guards but they had the size to compete. The other is Iowa and I like them for a different reason, they can score a bunch of points and they make the opponent play defense. I still think Clark is the best player in the country but the validation will come when she is able to do what she does against SC.

In todays game I don't know if you can ever count out a team that can shoot the 3. If they have that magical night anyone can beat anyone else, at least at this time of year.

 

[bballnut90]

If the rest of South Carolina's games are officiated like the Maryland game yesterday, the Carolina women will win in a landslide. That being said, Iowa's slim chance at being competitive on Friday depends on whether they can spread the floor out like Maryland did in the first quarter yesterday. For now I am just hoping Iowa can keep the game close and not get blown out.

I don't see Iowa getting blown out, though the final score may indicate it being a blowout. South Carolina is a team that slowly drains your battery and wears you out over time. They don't jump down your throat, pick up a 15 point lead and coast that to a blow out like UCONN did during the Stewart years. Against good teams it is usually a grind it out battle in the first half, then SC creates separation in the 3rd/beginning of the 4th. We saw that vs. UCONN, Maryland yesterday, LSU, both Tennessee games, and vs UCLA in the Sweet 16.

Iowa was only blown out once this year, and it was vs a potent offensive squad (Maryland) who nailed 14 threes, shot 93% from the line and forced 24 turnovers. I don't see those kinds of numbers coming from South Carolina. Iowa's main caveat will be can they score against South Carolina's half court defense, and can they grab enough rebounds to prevent SC from feasting inside.

I do think they should take a page (or 2) from Brenda's game plan yesterday. Turning the game into a track meet could yield some quick buckets with Clark's ability to be an outlet passer, and Maryland did a good job in the first quarter of pulling Aliyah Boston out of the paint which created backdoor cut opportunities at the rim. Bluder willl need a masterful game plan and will need to be able to make adjustments to pull off the upset.

 

[Brewski]

I don't see Iowa getting blown out, though the final score may indicate it being a blowout. South Carolina is a team that slowly drains your battery and wears you out over time. They don't jump down your throat, pick up a 15 point lead and coast that to a blow out like UCONN did during the Stewart years. Against good teams it is usually a grind it out battle in the first half, then SC creates separation in the 3rd/beginning of the 4th. We saw that vs. UCONN, Maryland yesterday, LSU, both Tennessee games, and vs UCLA in the Sweet 16.

Iowa was only blown out once this year, and it was vs a potent offensive squad (Maryland) who nailed 14 threes, shot 93% from the line and forced 24 turnovers. I don't see those kinds of numbers coming from South Carolina. Iowa's main caveat will be can they score against South Carolina's half court defense, and can they grab enough rebounds to prevent SC from feasting inside.

I do think they should take a page (or 2) from Brenda's game plan yesterday. Turning the game into a track meet could yield some quick buckets with Clark's ability to be an outlet passer, and Maryland did a good job in the first quarter of pulling Aliyah Boston out of the paint which created backdoor cut opportunities at the rim. Bluder willl need a masterful game plan and will need to be able to make adjustments to pull off the upset.

Nicely written post. I only have one minor correction. Add the word "luck" to your last sentence. They don't need a lot, but they will need some luck along with everything you indicated.

As I have said in other threads, Iowa is my 2nd favorite women's basketball team, so for obvious reasons they're currently my favorite team since tOSU put UConn into early retirement. I hope to catch your optimism fever as we reach game time on Friday.

 

[asuwish]

I did think the refs blew the whistle on every play which helps a team that's very deep. I thought MD got the short end but we're never going to win. If the game is called tight the Iowa bigs who are slower will be in foul trouble

 

[01Neaggrad02]

Big difference between UCONN 95 and South Carolina 23 is that UCONN won the title...(Sorry having too much enjoyment with this)

 

[PJCLaw]

Ok spoiler alert. Unless something drastic happens SC wins the next two games easily. No team left has the size or depth to compete. I see two comparisons to other teams. 95 UConn women. Lobo and Wolters at 6'4 and 6'7 and Elliott meant no team could keep the off the boards or match up defensively. Teams wanted to put their best defender on Lobo, now Boston, and that means some 6'3 or so player has to defend Wolters or Cordoso and that is not happening (I know Cordoso doesn't start but when she plays they have no answer at all). The other comparison is today's UConn men's team. Clingan comes off the bench and other teams just have no answer and Uconn doesn't play both bigs together. Drew Timme just could not figure out what to do against Clingan. Cardoso is the player you can't match up with. The other final four teams also have no answer. The other bigs on SC are also impossible to keep off the glass against undersized defenders. Iowa's bigs are to slow as well. They will get in foul trouble. It will be one of the great upsets ever if Dawn isn't holding the trophy Sunday night.

This aged badly!!

 

[Conndog]

Big difference between UCONN 95 and South Carolina 23 is that UCONN won the title...(Sorry having too much enjoyment with this)

77-73 Iowa wins

 

[Rdkid]

SC is great at rebounding and team D, depth. They are flawed at point and shooting the 3. Boston looked morose. The better team still has to play well. Let’s hope the men see it through tomorrow

 

[southofnorth]

Another comparable team with that kind of size would be the 2019 national championship Baylor team with Kalani Brown (6’7) and Lauren Cox (6’4) who played extremely well together and had some good guard play around them. Interestingly, Stanford could pull something similar next year with Cameron Brink (6’4 of 6’5) and Lauren Betts (6’7) given Brink’s versatility.

 

[Waquoit]

Turns out the comp works with UConn 96. Both teams coming in holding the title. Both team clearly the best and should win. Both teams lose with their star centers under performing.

 

[UCTitleTown]

We need to bring in a very tall center. Our most successful teams have had one.

 

[HuskyNan]

We need to bring in a very tall center. Our most successful teams have had one.

Iowa’s center is 6-3, LSU’s tallest player is 6-4.

 

[UCTitleTown]

Iowa’s center is 6-3, LSU’s tallest player is 6-4.

Did you watch Cardoza and Boston dominate? I wasn't comparing us to Iowa, they have Clark. I was referring to what UConn needs to win national titles again.

 

[HuskyNan]

Did you watch Cardoza and Boston dominate? I wasn't comparing us to Iowa, they have Clark. I was referring to what UConn needs to win national titles again.

After 6-7 Kara Wolters, what “very tall” post player, greater than 6-5, won a championship with UConn?

Also, 6-3 Iowa center Monika Czinano had 18 points yesterday, 6-5 Boston had 8 and 6-7 Cardoso had 14.

 

[npignatjr]

We need to bring in a very tall center. Our most successful teams have had one.

2000, 2002, 2003, 2004? If you mean 6'6" or taller that is only one 1995

 

[UCTitleTown]

2000, 2002, 2003, 2004? If you mean 6'6" or taller that is only one 1995

I'm saying to win against big teams. Remember Britney Griner? I think Cardoso will dominate the next two years. We don't have anyone that can handle her. Don't necessarily draw a connection between years we've won and the big center, but look at where the game is today. That's more my point.

 

[bovwa10]

Did you watch Cardoza and Boston dominate? I wasn't comparing us to Iowa, they have Clark. I was referring to what UConn needs to win national titles again.

Depending on matchups, I think just having Edwards could be enough to give UConn another title. The only posts I’d worry about her guarding next year are Brink and Cardoso.

 

[Centerstream]

After 6-7 Kara Wolters, what “very tall” post player, greater than 6-5, won a championship with UConn?

Also, 6-3 Iowa center Monika Czinano had 18 points yesterday, 6-5 Boston had 8 and 6-7 Cardoso had 14.

And I believe most all of Monika's field goals did not require a dribble and we know that the Huskies also have a few players that can feed Aaliyah, Ice, Ayanna and Jana like that.

 

[JonathanXIV]

We need to bring in a very tall center. Our most successful teams have had one.

I don't remember the 2002 championship team as being particularly dominant at center.

 

[HuskyNan]

I'm saying to win against big teams. Remember Britney Griner? I think Cardoso will dominate the next two years. We don't have anyone that can handle her. Don't necessarily draw a connection between years we've won and the big center, but look at where the game is today. That's more my point.

I remember Griner, she won one NCAA championship. 6-4 Tina Charles won 2 championships and dominated Griner, so did 6-5 Heather Buck for that matter.

How many 6-6+ women are in the game?

 

[bovwa10]

I remember Griner, she won one NCAA championship. 6-4 Tina Charles won 2 championships and dominated Griner, so did 6-5 Heather Buck for that matter.

How many 6-6+ women are in the game?

I still can’t believe Griner only won one NCAA championship. I don’t think we’ll ever see another player like her in the women’s game

 

[ctfjr]

well this thread didn't age well

 

[npignatjr]

I'm saying to win against big teams. Remember Britney Griner? I think Cardoso will dominate the next two years. We don't have anyone that can handle her. Don't necessarily draw a connection between years we've won and the big center, but look at where the game is today. That's more my point.

Where is the game today? The 2 teams playing for the championship just beat the 2 taller teams. Cardoso 6'7", was outplayed by Aaliyah 6'2", Cardoso is a junior so is Aaliyah. How dominant was Griner, won 1, Boston 1. ,UCONN was beaten by a smaller team. There was nothing in your post noting any mention of past or present play.

 

[npignatjr]

Another comparable team with that kind of size would be the 2019 national championship Baylor team with Kalani Brown (6’7) and Lauren Cox (6’4) who played extremely well together and had some good guard play around them. Interestingly, Stanford could pull something similar next year with Cameron Brink (6’4 of 6’5) and Lauren Betts (6’7) given Brink’s versatility.

Brown was not the major force on that team it was Cox. The team was probably even better after Brown left, no tournament in 2020.

 

[mbr33ct]

I'm saying to win against big teams. Remember Britney Griner? I think Cardoso will dominate the next two years. We don't have anyone that can handle her. Don't necessarily draw a connection between years we've won and the big center, but look at where the game is today. That's more my point.

I do remember Britney Griner and Baylor vaguely. The year I especially remember was the 2011-12 season when Louisville pulled off a big upset over Baylor in the sweet 16 Regionals. If I'm not mistaken the tallest player Louisville had, at time, was Sheronne Vails 6'-4"...it's not about size.

 

[hoophuskee]

I'm saying to win against big teams. Remember Britney Griner? I think Cardoso will dominate the next two years. We don't have anyone that can handle her. Don't necessarily draw a connection between years we've won and the big center, but look at where the game is today. That's more my point.

You just saw Iowa beat SC and they were major undersized.
You saw Louisville beat the Baylor team you reference and they were undersized.
There's a reason why these big teams lost. Guard play beat them. So why are you ignoring that guard play can't beat them again? It is possible, right?

Despite all the obvious evidence that you've just witnessed you keep pretending like what you have seen didn't happen?

I don't even believe SC will be the best team in their conference next year, never mind your point on Cardoso individually. SC will still be suspect outside shooting. Basketball is not a game of one-on-one. And Cardoso probably won't even be the best player in her own conference. Never mind the country.

I mean you just witnessed Iowa handle her well enough to beat her team win which her team was loaded. And now you imply no one will handle her for the next 2 years?