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Florida up to #3. Considering SEC lack of depth and likely losses for AZ/Cuse at some point, Florida could end up being #1 overall seed in tourney...that win looking better and better. Need to keep winning but 6 seed or higher not out of reach if DD gets healthy.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2014/poll/1

(was already posted as I was writing...my bad)
 
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As long as a few teams lose, we should be able to sneak in next week
 
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If UVA (@ ND and @ Pitt) and UCLA (@ the oregon schools) sweep they will both jump us
 
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So frustrating. I hate seeing schools ahead of us who we beat or who have similar records ranked. Really hoping we get a couple W's out of our 4 upcoming games with Cincinnati, Memphis and UL. That should get us back in.
 

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I can't seem to remember a year where we cared so much about our team AP ranking...

As a side note, Florida up to #3 behind only 2 of the unbeatens. That W was huge for us.
 
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If we turn on the jets right now and pull off an AAC tournament win, there's no reason we can't be a 3 seed. I know it's ambitious, but it's certainly not out of the question. I think the biggest game of the season is against Cincy next week. That will determine how bad we want this to be a successful season and how badly we want to be a top team. With a win against Houston and Cincy, we're in the top 20 with a few cupcake games at hand.
 
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26 looks about right to me. Tough to argue that we deserve to be ranked over any of the teams 20-25 now.
 

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26 looks about right to me. Tough to argue that we deserve to be ranked over any of the teams 20-25 now.

You really don't think we should be ranked ahead of St. Louis? I know that their losses both were against good teams, but I have a hard time believing that they're better than UConn.

That being said, I more excited to see what the rankings look like at the beginning of Apirl.
 
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You really don't think we should be ranked ahead of St. Louis? I know that their losses both were against good teams, but I have a hard time believing that they're better than UConn.

That being said, I more excited to see what the rankings look like at the beginning of Apirl.

If we played St. Louis head to head I think we would come out with a W, but they have not had the slip ups that we have had so far this year and I would rank them ahead of us due to that. In terms of post season potential we should perform better than what we are currently ranked.
 

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I don't see a 3 seed for the Huskies unless UConn only loses 1 game the rest of the way. UConn is going to get no credit for wins over UCF, USF and the rest of the riff raff in the conference. UConn has 5 games vs. Top 50 teams left, and then the AAC tournament, where UConn will likely play just 2 Top 50 teams. After that, there are no games against the Top 150.
 
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I can't seem to remember a year where we cared so much about our team AP ranking...

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Being ranked makes a difference on the hype before games and during coverage of the team. Hype affects how the networks cover us and it affects attendance. That hype or "perception" therefore affects recruiting, post season awards and even tournament seeding. That hype could also impact how potential suitor conferences, like the Big Ten, peeceive us. Our future is more vulnerable now than it was a few seasons ago because of conference realignment and JC's retirement.
 

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With a healthy and confident DD we'll be back in the top 25 in short order. Without that, it could be a while.
 
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a teams current position in the poll does affect things. If a team like Ohio State starts the year ranked #40 and wins a lot of games against bad opponents and moves up to say #22, but then loses 4 out of 5 games, than where does that put them? probably back at #40. if they play well the rest of the season and move up 10 spots, than that puts them at #30. That's about a 7 seed. If the team starts #10 in the country and does the same thing, than the team ends up 20-25 after playing well and then losing 4 of 5. Move up 10 spots after playing well the rest of the season and end up 10-15 with a 3-4 seed. If you don't think ranking matters now, than i'm not sure you have followed college basketball or football over the years. What I am historically unsure of is how much poll ranking has affected seeding. To my knowledge it is almost identical in most cases, but I am definitely not sure of that. Example, top 8 teams get a 1 or 2 seed and usually the top 3-4 get a 1 seed, 9-16 get a 3 or 4 seed etc. How many times has there been more than a single seed difference over the last 5 years? example, a team ranked #20 in the polls gets a 3 seed or a team ranked #9 gets a 5 seed. The polls are significantly influenced by the ranking at the beginning of the season and perception of how good a team is. Based on that it would seam very reasonable that blind resume seeding in the tournament should not be close to perfectly correlated with the biased polls. From my knowledge it has been very closely correlated. Please prove me wrong because I want to be wrong on this one and get to ignore the polls.
 

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If we turn on the jets right now and pull off an AAC tournament win, there's no reason we can't be a 3 seed. I know it's ambitious, but it's certainly not out of the question. I think the biggest game of the season is against Cincy next week. That will determine how bad we want this to be a successful season and how badly we want to be a top team. With a win against Houston and Cincy, we're in the top 20 with a few cupcake games at hand.

I admire your optimism, but if DD is out for an extended period, Omar continues to be a non-factor and we don't get more scoring from those not named Shabazz, UConn could easily go ~.500 rest of the way. DD will miss Houston, Cincy (2x) is going to force sloppy play, Ville isn't automatic, nor is SMU. That's five potential losses, meaning 10-8 in conference is within reach without great team play and contributions from all over.
 
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What I am historically unsure of is how much poll ranking has affected seeding. To my knowledge it is almost identical in most cases, but I am definitely not sure of that. Example, top 8 teams get a 1 or 2 seed and usually the top 3-4 get a 1 seed, 9-16 get a 3 or 4 seed etc. How many times has there been more than a single seed difference over the last 5 years? example, a team ranked #20 in the polls gets a 3 seed or a team ranked #9 gets a 5 seed. The polls are significantly influenced by the ranking at the beginning of the season and perception of how good a team is. Based on that it would seam very reasonable that blind resume seeding in the tournament should not be close to perfectly correlated with the biased polls. From my knowledge it has been very closely correlated. Please prove me wrong because I want to be wrong on this one and get to ignore the polls.

In my recollection, ranking has generally correlated well with NCAA Tournament seeding for high major teams, give or take a seed line. For mid-majors there are no guarantees, and this is why our situation is especially tenuous.

High-majors tend to get the benefit of the doubt, seeding-wise. In 2005, we were ranked in the 10-16 range pretty consistently throughout February and early March. We got a 2 seed.

Mid-majors do not get this benefit of the doubt. In 2006, George Washington was ranked in the top 10 in early March. They got a 5 seed.

It's obvious that this year we're already not getting the benefit of the doubt when it comes to ranking. Then on top of that, I expect the Committee will punish us further with a seeding even below that ranking.
 
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In my recollection, ranking has generally correlated well with NCAA Tournament seeding for high major teams, give or take a seed line. For mid-majors there are no guarantees, and this is why our situation is especially tenuous.

High-majors tend to get the benefit of the doubt, seeding-wise. In 2005, we were ranked in the 10-16 range pretty consistently throughout February and early March. We got a 2 seed.

Mid-majors do not get this benefit of the doubt. In 2006, George Washington was ranked in the top 10 in early March. They got a 5 seed.

It's obvious that this year we're already not getting the benefit of the doubt when it comes to ranking. Then on top of that, I expect the Committee will punish us further with a seeding even below that ranking.

That is exactly my recollection as well. The good news for UConn is we already have 2 signature wins that mid majors usually dont get. Hopefully a strong finish to the season results in atleast 3 more quality wins between the regular season and AAC tourny.
 

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I'm not sure historical indicators will work well this year. With the BE defunct the strongest conference has been demolished. The ACC was supposed to take over as top dog, but they don't look to get 8-10 teams this year. Just a whole new ball game for the committee.
 
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A little love from Seth Davis and, as one would hope, Borges.

No surprise that ESPN employees and ACC shills Vitale and Gary Williams have us unranked. Kieran Darcy, yet another ESPN writer who specializes in covering St. John's and the Big East, has us outside the top 25 as well.
Does it surprise anyone that Dickey V's ranking of Duke is considered "Near Extreme rankings (rankings that approach extreme values)"
 
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#26 is exactly where I thought we would land. I figured TX would jump us since they had consecutive Ws against 3 ranked teams the past 2 weeks.

Hopefully we'll keep on winning and get back in there and stick.
 
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