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UConn 2024 vs UConn 2004

Let’s simulate the 2024 team in 2004 BET and ncaa and vice versa.

2024 team in 2004 BE tournament

Quarterfinals vs ND, ND not listed so UConn wins by default.

Semi finals vs Villanova, Nova not so UConn wins by default

BET final vs Pitt


UConn wins 87-72

NCAA tourney

2024 Uconn vs 2004 Vermont


UConn wins 83-47

UConn vs Depaul


UConn wins 85-61 WhatIfSports.com: Fantasy Sports Simulation -- NCAA Boxscore

UConn vs Vanderbilt, UConn wins 82-72 WhatIfSports.com: Fantasy Sports Simulation -- NCAA Boxscore

Uconn vs Alabama, UConn wins 88-55 WhatIfSports.com: Fantasy Sports Simulation -- NCAA Boxscore

Final Four

UConn vs Duke, Uconn wins 93-88

UConn va Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech wins 103-93 WhatIfSports.com: Fantasy Sports Simulation -- NCAA Boxscore
 
does that simulator adjust for pace of play? need to see the model
 
UofCT said:
Simulate it using AI
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Predicting the outcome of hypothetical games between the 2004 and 2024 UConn men's basketball teams involves a lot of speculation, as it depends on various factors such as team dynamics, individual player skills, coaching strategies, and the style of play in each era.

The 2004 UConn team, which won the NCAA championship, was renowned for its dominant defense, strong rebounding, and the presence of stars like Emeka Okafor and Ben Gordon. They were a physically imposing team with a solid inside presence and reliable scoring options.

The 2024 UConn team would have the advantages of modern training techniques, potentially more athleticism, and perhaps more sophisticated offensive schemes due to advancements in coaching strategies. However, they would also have to contend with the physicality and disciplined defense of the 2004 team.

Considering these factors, if the two teams played 10 times, a reasonable prediction might be:

  • 2004 UConn: 6 wins
  • 2024 UConn: 4 wins

This assumes the 2004 team's championship experience and physical dominance would give them a slight edge, but the 2024 team’s modern athleticism and tactics could secure several victories.
 
huskyjawz said:
Everyone keeps talking about Clingan's foul trouble, but Emeka had a bit of foul trouble himself.
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that's why i'd bring boone off the bench. barley a step down from okafor as compared to clingan and samson.
 
Mr. French said:
Castle could give Ben problems…but Ben is 50x the player of all those guys you just listed.
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I never said otherwise. I loved watching BG take over games (Alabama comes to mind), but for 2004 to win, it seems like he'd have to somewhat considerably outscore his average vs one of the best perimeter defenders in program history.

Those guys aren't as talented as Ben but every one of them will at least have a cup of coffee in the league. Olivari has struggled in summer league I guess so maybe he's the exception.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Brown-Spencer
Gordon-Castle/Diarra
Anderson/Brown-Newton
Villanueva/Boone-Karaban/Stewart
Okafor/Boone-Clingan/Johnson

There's some real good match ups here.

Castle takes Gordon on D, but Taliek takes on Newton. Spencer probably covers Brown but Rashad and Denham have either Newton or Spencer covering them.

Villanueva and Karaban is a great match up. Charlie can shoot over Karaban both on perimeter and in the post. Karaban runs Charlie around the perimeter all day.

Clingan and Okafor is a great match up and if they can cancel each other's offense out, it's advantage '24. UConn 2024 won a bunch with Clingan scoring 8-12 points. UConn 2004 needed Okafor scoring 15+.

'04 struggled with Okafor out with back problems during regular season; 2024 did better with Clingan and Castle injured.

I can listen to 5-5 or 6-4 either way, but anyone thinking one side is winning 7 or 8 against the other is wearing tainted glasses.

'04 at its best was as lethal as 2024. The '04 E8 match up against Bama was a seal clubbing of the highest order. Of course, 2024 clubbed Bama in the FF.
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Also worthy of note, the "23 nor '24 Teams faced a team during their runs as good as the Duke Team the '04 team defeated in the FF.
 
Don’t know who would win but ‘24 would have a lot of problems keeping Boone off the glass.
 
Hogoff said:
Predicting the outcome of hypothetical games between the 2004 and 2024 UConn men's basketball teams involves a lot of speculation, as it depends on various factors such as team dynamics, individual player skills, coaching strategies, and the style of play in each era.

The 2004 UConn team, which won the NCAA championship, was renowned for its dominant defense, strong rebounding, and the presence of stars like Emeka Okafor and Ben Gordon. They were a physically imposing team with a solid inside presence and reliable scoring options.

The 2024 UConn team would have the advantages of modern training techniques, potentially more athleticism, and perhaps more sophisticated offensive schemes due to advancements in coaching strategies. However, they would also have to contend with the physicality and disciplined defense of the 2004 team.

Considering these factors, if the two teams played 10 times, a reasonable prediction might be:

  • 2004 UConn: 6 wins
  • 2024 UConn: 4 wins

This assumes the 2004 team's championship experience and physical dominance would give them a slight edge, but the 2024 team’s modern athleticism and tactics could secure several victories.
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I Guess If You Say So GIF
 
2024 was the most dominant college basketball team I have ever seen. The system we ran was just too good and basically impossible to beat unless we beat ourselves
 
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I'd say both teams were equally dominant in their eras.

But 2024 is a spectacularly terrible mismatch for 2004. All of the things that made 2004 tick, 2024 has the perfect answer. Emeka's physical dominance and rebounding? Oh, how about this 7'2 Unicorn that will gobble up Emeka and neutralize him completely. Dynamic score-first 6'2 Guard Ben Gordon? Stick 6'6 beast Stephon Castle on him and make his life miserable. And 2024's positional versatility and shooting would make it really hard for Emeka to plug all the gaps.


2024 78-65 over 2004
 
Scottobot said:
2024 team was better. Clingan would have shutdown Okafor. 7,2 vs 6’9. Castle defense would have been trouble for Gordon.
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This idea is so crazy. I love Clingan, but the truth is He is no more dominant a defender than Thabeet was. No one thought Thatbeet would shutdown Okafor.

Before you trash Thabeet, 1) National Defensive Player of the Year, 2) #2 NBA Draft pick overall, in a much tougher Draft 3) 7"3" 260lb.
 
husky99 said:
Real question. Out of 10 games which coach gets ejected the most?
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Funny enough, I only remember Hurley being rejected from one game since he’s been here? The Villanova game.

I don’t think he’s been ejected once on the championship runs as crazy as that sounds.

Calhoun used to purposefully looked to get ejected from games at times. Lol
 
yungdowork said:
I never said otherwise. I loved watching BG take over games (Alabama comes to mind), but for 2004 to win, it seems like he'd have to somewhat considerably outscore his average vs one of the best perimeter defenders in program history.

Those guys aren't as talented as Ben but every one of them will at least have a cup of coffee in the league. Olivari has struggled in summer league I guess so maybe he's the exception.
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Ben G at MSG in '04 BET was ridiculous.
 
OceanDoggie said:
This idea is so crazy. I love Clingan, but the truth is He is no more dominant a defender than Thabeet was. No one thought Thatbeet would shutdown Okafor.

Before you trash Thabeet, 1) National Defensive Player of the Year, 2) #2 NBA Draft pick overall, in a much tougher Draft 3) 7"3" 260lb.
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I think what makes Donovan better is his ability to not have silly fouls. He also seemed to have a stronger base in general.

If he was healthy and played as many minutes as Thabeet did he could’ve been NDPOY, too.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Okafor being out with back spasms opened up the middle for Ben.

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Ben was averaging 17 a game and Calhoun was still telling him he had another level to get to at the start of the video.

And that’s what you loved about Calhoun. He was going to make sure he got the absolute most out of any talented player that he had here. He wasn’t going to settle on what a guy was capable of doing.
 
2024 is probably our best team ever, all things considered.

BUT a lot of people forgetting how good that 04 team was, including junior year Emeka and Ben.

Clingan and Castle were great this year, but college ball in 2004, whom that team dominated when healthy, was very high level.
 
OceanDoggie said:
This idea is so crazy. I love Clingan, but the truth is He is no more dominant a defender than Thabeet was. No one thought Thatbeet would shutdown Okafor.

Before you trash Thabeet, 1) National Defensive Player of the Year, 2) #2 NBA Draft pick overall, in a much tougher Draft 3) 7"3" 260lb.
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It’s an interesting comparison. There was more value put on bigs in the draft back then, so hard to truly compare based on where drafted.

There is no denying Thabeet defensively, although it felt different. He got his blocks in spades, but I never felt like he changed the floor as much as Donovan. And Don is so savvy on the offensive end as the high point/pick and as a passer. It’s truly undervalued.
 
As awesome as Hurley is, Calhoun to me is the best single game coach of all time.
Calhoun is the only coach I can think of that got the better of Coach K.
One game, it's 2004. But 10? I take 2024.
Also, 2006 and any of the 1994-1996 teams would win at least a couple against either. And of course 1999 could be better than both.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Funny enough, I only remember Hurley being rejected from one game since he’s been here? The Villanova game.

I don’t think he’s been ejected once on the championship runs as crazy as that sounds.

Calhoun used to purposefully looked to get ejected from games at times. Lol
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How many games was Calhoun ejected from? My memory may be a bit cloudy from those days but I don’t remember even one.
 
I'm not even sure who wins 99 or 04. 99 team was ranked #1 best team in the last 25 years prior to 23/24. 99 was all about winning. 04 has more firepower sure.

Us Uconn fans all have blue colored glasses, we have our own personal favorites, our opinions are vastly skewed.

The majority of the outsiders say 24 Uconn is the best team hands down since UNLV, no questions asked.
 
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ucp990411 said:
How many games was Calhoun ejected from? My memory may be a bit cloudy from those days but I don’t remember even one.
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I’m not sure there’s a database for it. But Calhoun was for sure ejected a few times. I think coaches in general may have been ejected more back in those days.

Sometimes purposeful to fire up their teams. I can’t remember the last time I saw a coach get ejected now that I think about it in todays game lol

Probably the referees trying to not make the game about them because there’s a few times Hurley probably deserved one.
 
Hogoff said:
Predicting the outcome of hypothetical games between the 2004 and 2024 UConn men's basketball teams involves a lot of speculation, as it depends on various factors such as team dynamics, individual player skills, coaching strategies, and the style of play in each era.

The 2004 UConn team, which won the NCAA championship, was renowned for its dominant defense, strong rebounding, and the presence of stars like Emeka Okafor and Ben Gordon. They were a physically imposing team with a solid inside presence and reliable scoring options.

The 2024 UConn team would have the advantages of modern training techniques, potentially more athleticism, and perhaps more sophisticated offensive schemes due to advancements in coaching strategies. However, they would also have to contend with the physicality and disciplined defense of the 2004 team.

Considering these factors, if the two teams played 10 times, a reasonable prediction might be:

  • 2004 UConn: 6 wins
  • 2024 UConn: 4 wins

This assumes the 2004 team's championship experience and physical dominance would give them a slight edge, but the 2024 team’s modern athleticism and tactics could secure several victories.
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Modern athleticism? 2004 was more athletic and physically stronger than 2024. 2024 was the better team.
 
UC0NN said:
I'm not even sure who wins 99 or 04. 99 team was ranked #1 best team in the last 25 years prior to 23/24. 99 was all about winning. 04 has more firepower sure.

Us Uconn fans all have blue colored glasses, we have our own personal favorites, our opinions are vastly skewed.

The majority of the outsiders say 24 Uconn is the best team hands down since UNLV, no questions asked.
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I'm one of the people that thinks '99 beats '04.
 
Mr. French said:
2024 is probably our best team ever, all things considered.

BUT a lot of people forgetting how good that 04 team was, including junior year Emeka and Ben.

Clingan and Castle were great this year, but college ball in 2004, whom that team dominated when healthy, was very high level.
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I don't think people are forgetting it. I think people have a healthy respect for that team, which was clearly among the best 4 or 5 in the history of the program. And when they were cooking they were scary. But people also had concerns about whether Gordon could be "the guy" as late as the BET that year when Okafor was having back issues. Calhoun was still playing mind games with him through the media. There were 5 or 6 teams thought to have a better shot at winning the whole thing when the tournament started. I think you have to consider the dominance of last year's team, who dogwalked everyone in their path, to the point that some Northwestern alums at our house a few weeks after the tournament were bragging that they only lost by 17 in a game that was 40-18 at halftime.
 
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