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UConn “Telling Our Story” CT Insider Article

superjohn said:
Shutting down football was a ridiculous decision. It signified we're about as serious about football as Brown is.
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There was a tremendous amount at play there, including the fact that at the time of the shutdown decision, our state wasn't allowing people to travel out of state without a two week quarantine.

If we did attempt to play the season, we faced a strong possibility of having to cancel home games (as our team may have still been in quarantine) and likely cancel some road games and face financial repercussions if not fulfilling a contractual obligation.

That was a situation where we were screwed if we tried to play and we were screwed if we decided not to but the costs were going to be far greater if we tried.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
There was a tremendous amount at play there, including the fact that at the time of the shutdown decision, our state wasn't allowing people to travel out of state without a two week quarantine.

If we did attempt to play the season, we faced a strong possibility of having to cancel home games (as our team may have still been in quarantine) and likely cancel some road games and face financial repercussions if not fulfilling a contractual obligation.

That was a situation where we were screwed if we tried to play and we were screwed if we decided not to but the costs were going to be far greater if we tried.
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And they were also fine canceling the season because they knew they weren't going to win any games that season.
 
Hamms30 said:
I don't remember the timeline of the rules, but I thought the non starter was the fact that if they team traveled out of state or any team traveling into the state had to quarantine for a week or something like that. It wasn't 100% the football team didn't want to do it. With the rules in place, a good portion of the season was just impractical to pursue.
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And it hammered it home even more to people around the country that UConn isn't serious about football.
 
These are the last round of massive linear contracts, and the remaining conferences used them to expand with ESPN's and Fox's money. We are out.

There will be another round of changes when this round of linear contracts expire and schools transition to a streaming model. There are several ways that can break and it is too early to tell what that next round of realignment will look like.
 
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How Sway?! said:
UMass played all their games on the road. All the other teams you mentioned were in a conference that could guarantee them games. We didn't have that luxury.
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The independents that played games in 2020: Liberty, UMass, Army, BYU, New Mexico State. UConn and Old Dominion were the only 2 schools that didn't play.
 
superjohn said:
Nobody is forced to do anything, if a player had comorbidities or didn't feel comfortable playing for other reasons they obviously woudn't have been forced to play. They wanted to play and everyone around the country played except for UConn...You've posted over and over that UConn hasn't taken football seriously enough, Big East is not where UConn should be, and football is what matters in getting UConn a seat at the table. Nothing they've done has made them look as Mickey Mouse as that decision did. It was the wrong decision and added to UConn not looking like a place that's serious about football.
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You're attributing a lot of statements to me that are just flat out untrue or misrepresentwd. I'm on the record saying that it's wild football is still this sacred cow because it's going to be over sooner rather than later. We will reach a point that football is more akin to gladiators than anything else. When all the CTE issues pop up for the TikTok generation this ish is over.

When I say "football is all that matters" it's in relation to how these dumbf regions of the country think. I'm not saying it's our fault, I'm saying it's how their minds work and how information is fed to them.

I agree with Yormark and think MBB is the future. I just don't think we're getting a seat at this point unless something changes sooner than I expect it to.
 
JMick said:
You're attributing a lot of statements to me that are just flat out untrue or misrepresentwd. I'm on the record saying that it's wild football is still this sacred cow because it's going to be over sooner rather than later. We will reach a point that football is more akin to gladiators than anything else. When all the CTE issues pop up for the TikTok generation this ish is over.

When I say "football is all that matters" it's in relation to how these dumbf regions of the country think. I'm not saying it's our fault, I'm saying it's how their minds work and how information is fed to them.

I agree with Yormark and think MBB is the future. I just don't think we're getting a seat at this point unless something changes sooner than I expect it to.
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If football is going to be dead in the future and basketball is the future how is UConn's basketball program dead in the future? Also, why do you care about UConn football being dead in the future if the entire sport will be dead in the future?

I assumed you're a football fan first because the majority of your posts are about football both at the college level and the high school level.
 
superjohn said:
If football is going to be dead in the future and basketball is the future how is UConn's basketball program dead in the future? Also, why do you care about UConn football being dead in the future if the entire sport will be dead in the future?

I assumed you're a football fan first because the majority of your posts are about football both at the college level and the high school level.
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I'm more of a football fan in general than a basketball fan. I admittedly know more about football than basketball because I played football for a long time and coached for a little bit. When it comes to UConn, though, I'm definitely a big basketball fan and supporter and I care more about the basketball program. I'm not as knowledgeable but I care about the product more.

The issue will be that there is a breakaway from the NCAA and when that happens the brands will matter more than the sport. So a crappy program with the non-NCAA label will be worth more than what's left in the NCAA. If revenue sharing happens it's lights out for non-autonomous leagues.
 
RedStickHusky said:
Part of our issue is how the State itself is viewed in the West and the South... "In Texas we call that a county" kind of stuff.
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You just answer, yes, a county with 3.6 million people, bordered by another county with 18 million people and a third with 7 million people.
 
JMick said:
I'm more of a football fan in general than a basketball fan. I admittedly know more about football than basketball because I played football for a long time and coached for a little bit. When it comes to UConn, though, I'm definitely a big basketball fan and supporter and I care more about the basketball program. I'm not as knowledgeable but I care about the product more.

The issue will be that there is a breakaway from the NCAA and when that happens the brands will matter more than the sport. So a crappy program with the non-NCAA label will be worth more than what's left in the NCAA. If revenue sharing happens it's lights out for non-autonomous leagues.
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The brands will matter more than the sport and you think the best basketball program in the country will be dead? It doesn't add up to me.

If what you predict happens and football will be dead in the future and basketball is the future that's amazing news for UConn and Duke.
 
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superjohn said:
The brands will matter more than the sport and you think the best basketball program in the country will be dead? It doesn't add up to me.

If what you predict happens and football will be dead in the future and basketball is the future that's amazing news for UConn and Duke.
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I think the delta between the breakaway and when football becomes irrelevant is going to be so great that brands like UConn and Duke won't matter anymore. We already have people who think memphis and Oregon State are good at football. The same type of thing will happen with basketball and the excluded teams will fade into nothingness
 
JMick said:
I think the delta between the breakaway and when football becomes irrelevant is going to be so great that brands like UConn and Duke won't matter anymore. We already have people who think memphis and Oregon State are good at football. The same type of thing will happen with basketball and the excluded teams will fade into nothingness
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I think you're too much in this realignment board universe that it isn't making you think clearly.
 
superjohn said:
I think you're too much in this realignment board universe that it isn't making you think clearly.
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Nah I think if anything this board has a better pulse on the future than regular media
 
DCUconnfan said:
Now if only this makes it to ESPN as a headline, or the AP so it floats on SI or other sports publications. While I completely agree it is important for us/our media to shape the narrative, everyone reading the ct insider already thinks that way.
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You really needed a guy like Mora and Hurley out there in national media and also spending time with the local media in B12 country. They could have been prepped to talk expansion, all things great about UConn, etc.. We just kind of played Skidmark’s game and sat there like good little doggies waiting for a treat. Hindsight is 20-20 but we didn’t optimize our position.
 
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JMick said:
Shutting down the football activities in 2020 was the right move and the only reason other people didn't is because of pure greed.

I think edsall was a booster call and he was hoping edsall could be competent on the cheap. I don't totally blame him for edsall checking out completely but he should have been fired after year 1
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JMick said:
Nah it was the right thing to do. The players are still student athletes and not professionals. They shouldn't have been put at unnecessary risk.

Football literally shouldn't be that serious. The fact that it is treated so seriously is insane. Football is going to be a dead sport in 30 years.
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“Why are we not in the big leagues?”

reads this post

There you go!
 
superjohn said:
Everyone knows you get better by not playing anyone, lolz.
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We have to be a little fair. It was to be the 1st independent season, and conferences were only playing in conference games. There wasn't much they could have cobbled up. Maybe UMass and some FCS teams, maybe.
 
superjohn said:
I think you're too much in this realignment board universe that it isn't making you think clearly.
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I think I agree a lot of people think Memphis is a better long term football choice than UConn
 
noeynox said:
We have to be a little fair. It was to be the 1st independent season, and conferences were only playing in conference games. There wasn't much they could have cobbled up. Maybe UMass and some FCS teams, maybe.
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True. And because we don't do a good job communications-wise then anyone (fans) on the outside of the UConn universe will jump to the conclusion that we just gave up. We have to do better at marketing and communications. Hell, even our polished gems (men's and women's basketball) aren't looked at in the same way that teams like Duke and Kansas are when in reality we've outperformed/at the very least equalled them the last 25 years.
 
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JMick said:
Shutting down the football activities in 2020 was the right move and the only reason other people didn't is because of pure greed.

I think edsall was a booster call and he was hoping edsall could be competent on the cheap. I don't totally blame him for edsall checking out completely but he should have been fired after year 1
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I know DB is not perfect. But, things are getting better and Dan Hurley and JM have been great hires. The trouble is we have no margin of error. Some alleged P-5 teams can scuff around in FB and BB (we know who) and whistle all the way to the bank with no repercussions.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
True. And because we don't do a good job communications-wise then anyone (fans) on the outside of the UConn universe will jump to the conclusion that we just gave up. We have to do better at marketing and communications. Hell, even our polished gems (men's and women's basketball) aren't looked at in the same way that teams like Duke and Kansas are when in reality we've outperformed/at the very least equalled them the last 25 ye
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Drew said:


So glad we’re finally going on the offensive to shape the narrative instead of letting people like Tramel write BS with no consequence.
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Yes!

One other thing - arm yourself with facts and be defiant. We should win on the facts. I am tired of our underperforming, overrated, overpriced former conference mates snickering at our predicament. Let's just keep winning and throw it their faces.
 
pj said:
You just answer, yes, a county with 3.6 million people, bordered by another county with 18 million people and a third with 7 million people.
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Right... Which generally gets a "sux to be you" response...
 
Drew said:
“Why are we not in the big leagues?”

reads this post

There you go!
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Sometimes doing the right thing isn't popular. That doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do.

We have also handicapped ourselves because we don't allow a lot of kids into the school. We could go the Colorado or Baylor route but I don't think that's the right thing to do either.
 
RedStickHusky said:
Right... Which generally gets a "sux to be you" response...
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We're not competing with U. Texas though.

We're up against teams in smaller states, states with 2 teams.

UConn does not have a demographics problem.

Some of the mentality may be linked to the small size of the state. Reminds me of elections when people look at maps of the US and they see the massive bloc of Wyoming as indicative of a candidate's popularity.
 
Sea Goat said:
I was told that Big 12 people visited Storrs in late June/early July.
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I flew back to CT in early June and I don’t think I have ever seen Bradley so festooned with UConn stuff. It had to be for the visitors.
 
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