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Williams and Watson play extremely well together.

Cambridge continues to impress.

Dudley does a lot well as the youngest on the roster.

Olson does many things well too.

Booker shows real versatility but her shot needs some work.

Been impressed with Jaydan Donovan too.
 
Juju actually had quite a well-rounded game tonight. She led the team in scoring but decently down the list in re: to shots attempted. Also, lead in fg %, steals, blocks, +\-, and efficiency. And pretty much up there in rebounds and assists. What nobody has really discussed is the energy and thought she puts into difference. Obviously competition is on the lower end, but she really has developed a well-rounded game beyond just the ability and desire to score.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Williams and Watson play extremely well together.
Olson does many things well too.
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I'm assuming you mean Watkins & I've been predicting for a while that Watkins would end up staying home @ UCLA. If she does that would be quite the backcourt for UCLA and possibly give Cori another #1 recruiting class to squander.
 
Cornell Lt said:
My point was not the overall % of team shots, it was individually (Her 20 shots vs 7 shots for the next highest player(s))
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Reading is fundamental! ;)
 
saywho said:
Juju actually had quite a well-rounded game tonight. She led the team in scoring but decently down the list in re: to shots attempted. Also, lead in fg %, steals, blocks, +\-, and efficiency. And pretty much up there in rebounds and assists. What nobody has really discussed is the energy and thought she puts into difference. Obviously competition is on the lower end, but she really has developed a well-rounded game beyond just the ability and desire to score.
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Meant thought and energy put into *defense (not difference :) )
 
The USA plays Costa Rica today at 12:30 pm.
Costa Rica might have the weakest team in the tournament. They lost to Canada by 87 points. We'll see if the USA coaches decide to apply a full court press for the entire first half, like they have in their previous games.
I'm curious what the opinions are here on The Boneyard.
Should the USA apply a full court press, for an entire half or more, against a hopelessly outclassed opponent ?
Or do you think it would be patronizing to not play the most effective strategy ?

 
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Interestingly, according to the boxscore, Cambridge and Arnold haven't played in the first half.
I don't remember seeing them in the game either. Injured ?
Semi finals Satuday, finals on Sunday.
 
rvwsleep said:
The USA plays Costa Rica today at 12:30 pm.
Costa Rica might have the weakest team in the tournament. They lost to Canada by 87 points. We'll see if the USA coaches decide to apply a full court press for the entire first half, like they have in their previous games.
I'm curious what the opinions are here on The Boneyard.
Should the USA apply a full court press, for an entire half or more, against a hopelessly outclassed opponent ?
Or do you think it would be patronizing to not play the most effective strategy ?

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The full court press is dominant at this age of play. I would have been more interested to see half court basketball to be able to evaluate the players and see who is better and what they bring.
 
None of these games really interest me. The kids are too young, they don't play team basketball, its just a chance for kids to try to outdo their teammates as well as their opponents. When they get to be juniors in HS, thats when the interest peaks. Really hard to watch.
 
cancontent said:
Looking at the stats, she had 20 shot attempts while being on the court for less than 20 minutes. That will give people the impression she's a "get my shot" type of player.

I agree that Chile is not a strong opponent, however this seems to be her style of play. I've watched during the EYBL championships and she seemed to be the primary person with the ball. Ball hog? I didn't take it that way, however others may see it differently.

That estimate seems a little high. For this game, it looks to be about 20% (20 out of the 93 shots taken).
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What was her shooting percentage, where her shots in the flow of the game, and was she forcing her shots. Nobody should care how many shots you take if they go in.
 
asuwish said:
What was her shooting percentage, where her shots in the flow of the game, and was she forcing her shots. Nobody should care how many shots you take if they go in.
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My response was to someone who noted she was shooting two thirds of the teams shots. I saw the numbers differently. Regarding her shooting percentage, flow, etc., I can't speak to that.

I do disagree with your premise that nobody should care about number of shots. Balanced scoring has its advantages. If her shot attempts were majority of the team's attempts, I'd be concerned. In this case, it doesn't look to be the case because she took 20% of the shot attempts. It seems balanced if you look at the percentage from that perspective.
 
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rvwsleep said:
Interestingly, according to the boxscore, Cambridge and Arnold haven't played in the first half.
I don't remember seeing them in the game either. Injured ?
Semi finals Satuday, finals on Sunday.
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Arnold left the last game with a leg injury.
Not much of a game! USA and Canada are the two teams completely dominating the competition and USA has scored almost 60 pts more and given up 30 less.
rvwsleep said:
66-8 at the half. Those who took Costa Rica and 100 are sweating it out !
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And they would have lost their bet USA minus 108 was a winner!
 
I'm watching USA vs Mexico in the semi final. To me, Cunningham is the outstanding player so far.
She's easily the best big in the tournament, and it's not close.
Other players have played well but haven't stood out as much, among their peers, as Cunningham has.
 
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The US edged Mexico 121-30 in the semifinal Saturday. Thought Watkins, Williams, Olson, Donovan, and Cunningham were the best players though the latter went 2-10 from the foul line. Booker was really good too. Just about everyone contributed.

Title game against Canada Sunday night.
 
Some assist to turnover ratios for the US team with one game left:

Williams: 23 A, 2 TO

Watkins: 21 A, 4 TO

Olson: 14 A, 2 TO

Booker: 13 A, 5 TO

Arnold: 8 A, 8 TO
 
Canada has been dominant in their group play and in the Medal Rounds. Do they have a chance against Team USA?
 
Wbbfan1 said:
Canada has been dominant in their group play and in the Medal Rounds. Do they have a chance against Team USA?
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A chance, yes. Will they win ? Probably not. Not enough height for team Canada. They'll get beat on the boards.
I expect Cunningham to lead the way to a USA win.
 
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I believe this is a good indication of USA and Canada:
USA points for (5 games) 600, points against 144 MOV 456 (have scored 4.17X more that opponents)
Canada: 446 , 203, MOV 243 (2.2X opponents)

Canada has played defense in the same way as USA - lots of full court pressure. USA has played better and more consistent offense.
 
rvwsleep said:
A chance, yes. Will they win ? Probably not. Not enough height for team Canada. They'll get beat on the boards.
I expect Cunningham to lead the way to a USA win.
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I am interested in seeing how the Canadian team fares against the US. For majority of these players, this will be the toughest competition they've faced so far to date.

How they handle the pressure and respond is what I'll be focused on. They haven't faced adversity and for a lot of these players, it's their first real competition in well over 16 months. It will be a big learning experience regardless of the end result.
 
USA up 56-25 at the half. I thought Canada would give them a better game. It's not to be. Canada with 20 turnovers at the half. Watkins is very talented and she sure likes to shoot the ball.
 
118-45 dismantling of Canada.
Didn't think it would be that easy. It looked almost like all the other blowouts for the USA in this tournament. Canada with 31 turnovers.
Watkins got MVP
 
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US would have had more challenging practices against each other then what they had in the actual games they played. They clobbered Canada just like all the other teams, 118 - 45.
 
So Canada had the minor 'victory' of scoring 2 more points than Mexico (43) did in the group stage but were truly never in the game past the 5 minute mark of the first Q. USA also scored 2 points below their average of 120 in the game.

Canada missed all 11 three pointers they took and USA went 6/13 for 46%.
 
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rvwsleep said:
USA up 56-25 at the half. I thought Canada would give them a better game. It's not to be. Canada with 20 turnovers at the half. Watkins is very talented and she sure likes to shoot the ball.
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rvwsleep said:
118-45 dismantling of Canada.
Didn't think it would be that easy. It looked almost like all the other blowouts for the USA in this tournament. Canada with 31 turnovers.
Watkins got MVP
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Canada is getting better, but they're a long ways away from where the US is.

This is the type of score I was expecting. This team has some talent, but nowhere close to the depth the US has. Size was also going to be an issue as the US easily boasted several players over 6 ft.

If you look at the last couple U16 Americas, Canada lost by a significant margin. The only exception was 2015 where the US earned a bronze and Canada came home with gold.

I didn't watch the 2nd half as I was prepping for my work week. I'd like to see where the wheels really came off as I thought their first half was better than I expected it to be.
 
That is easily the best U16 team I've ever seen, and they were extremely well coached. All business, team oriented, and in-your-face aggressive.

Jada Williams is super impressive and Watkins is too even though she definitely has a tendency to force a shots. But Watkins makes tons of plays and is uber talented. She will not have to be coached to be aggressive.

Jaloni Cambridge and Jayden Donovan may have been the revelations for me. Kendall Dudley has a bright future too.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
That is easily the best U16 team I've ever seen, and they were extremely well coached. All business, team oriented, and in-your-face aggressive.

Jada Williams is super impressive and Watkins is too even though she definitely has a tendency to force a shots. But Watkins makes tons of plays and is uber talented. She will not have to be coached to be aggressive.

Jaloni Cambridge and Jayden Donovan may have been the revelations for me. Kendall Dudley has a bright future too.
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Agreed. It's instinctive with her.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
That is easily the best U16 team I've ever seen, and they were extremely well coached. All business, team oriented, and in-your-face aggressive.

Jada Williams is super impressive and Watkins is too even though she definitely has a tendency to force a shots. But Watkins makes tons of plays and is uber talented. She will not have to be coached to be aggressive.

Jaloni Cambridge and Jayden Donovan may have been the revelations for me. Kendall Dudley has a bright future too.
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For me Jayden Donovan jumped off the screen more than any other player. Aggressiveness, speed, off the charts athleticism, good finisher around the rim, tough perimeter defense, long arms, and a willingness to do the dirty work winning teams need. Everyone knew Jada and Watkins, but Donovan was the shocker for me. A playa that is my kind of playa.
 
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