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TWO more bite the dust. Texas and Oklahoma go down

yhun89 said:
Is she expected back this early though? Thought it wasn't until January.
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Aubrey's ACL injury was against Creighton on Jan 3rd. In previous years, athletes would be active and playing on these repaired knees within about ten months of surgery. As someone pointed out in an Azzi Fudd thread, a player from the University of Texas actually had the same ACL, which occurred after Azzi's, and yet she was starting in the first game of the season while Fudd was still rehabbing.

All I can offer is that for the past several players, UConn doctors, training staff, and coaches have waited for a full year before the player is activated for play.
 
yhun89 said:
Is she expected back this early though? Thought it wasn't until January.
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Aubrey keeps saying she’ll be back in December. Obviously, the medical staff and Geno have to approve that decision.

While I would like to see Aubrey back ASAP, at the end of the day, so long as she’s back healthy and is able to knock the rust off by March, then that’s a real plus for UConn heading into the Big Dance.
 
donalddoowop said:
Harmon previously was a good outside shooter but last night she looked nothing like her old self. She used to be as bothersome as Hildago. Also, UConn had a rotation of seven and beat a number of teams with a larger rotation. Not many teams have a rotation of ten.
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Are we overlooking the fact she's coming back from an ACL? Just because she's not wearing a brace like others, doesn't mean she isn't working on improving her mobility. It still takes some time.

From what I saw, she still had her moments where she was a pest defensively against ND. Both she and Hildalgo had 3 steals last night. If that's how she is at the start of the season, imagine what she'll be like in February and March.
 
ERWUC65 said:
I am thinking double team here, with KK and Ash subbing in for Kaitlyn and Azzi hoping to wear the ND duo out by the 4th quarter.
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Hildago destroyed Uconn last year with 34 points ! No one could guard her including Nika or KK one n one..if you try and double her she passes to Miles or Citron..last night she scored 30 against a good defender in Harmon..not sure what Geno can come up with
 
DEpup said:
I don't know about that. My biggest issue with Texas was that ND had 3 of their 6 players with 4 fouls and TX made no effort to go at them and draw a 5th. They were settling for outside shots and couldn't break the zone.
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Which proves my point. They missed their last 10 shots, most of which were beyond the arc. ND packed it in and invited them to beat themselves.
 
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oldude said:
Aubrey keeps saying she’ll be back in December. Obviously, the medical staff and Geno have to approve that decision.

While I would like to see Aubrey back ASAP, at the end of the day, so long as she’s back healthy and is able to knock the rust off by March, then that’s a real plus for UConn heading into the Big Dance.
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She is participating in warmups and appears to be moving normally.
 
DefenseBB said:
I definitely agree that last nights game with Tex-ND was a BADLY officiated game. I will say I have seen quite a few other games where the refereeing was pretty good-including the Kentucky-UNC game and the LSU-Stanford games last night. It was noted that ND triple teamed Oldacre (due to Taylor Jones getting injured) and they were HACKING at her every time without a call. My fear is the same poor officiating will again occur at ND on Tuesday which protects their thin bench.

Texas is an offensively challenged team to begin with and only has Madison Booker who can shoot. The good news is we have more scorers but the bad news is our guards can't defend the way Texas can. While Harmon is an atrocious shooter, she is a phenomenal defender and Miles and Hidalgo still had great games. I worry about Kaitlyn both guarding one of them and then having Hidalgo guarding her.
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I saw the ends of the Tx-ND and LSU-Stanford games last night. Both games went to overtime and in both games, the losing teams (Tx and Stanford) shot pathetically (2 points I think, for each of them) and the winning teams (ND & LSU) shot lights out. How does that happen?
 
drweo said:
I saw the ends of the Tx-ND and LSU-Stanford games last night. Both games went to overtime and in both games, the losing teams (Tx and Stanford) shot pathetically (2 points I think, for each of them) and the winning teams (ND & LSU) shot lights out. How does that happen?
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Overtime is a mini-game of 5 minutes. Choose at random any 5-minute segment of play and there's a certain likelihood that one team was cold and the other was hot. How often do we see a score midway through 1Q that is not at all indicative of the entire game?
 
cancontent said:
Are we overlooking the fact she's coming back from an ACL? Just because she's not wearing a brace like others, doesn't mean she isn't working on improving her mobility. It still takes some time.

From what I saw, she still had her moments where she was a pest defensively against ND. Both she and Hildalgo had 3 steals last night. If that's how she is at the start of the season, imagine what she'll be like in February and March.
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I didn't see the TX-ND game, but I did see TX play WV on Sunday, and Harmon was wearing a very large brace. Given her relatively diminutive stature, it really stood out. You're right, for not even a year post-injury, she's probably still a work in progress, but an impressive work!
 
Centerstream said:
Joe Vaszily was one of the refs. He seems to have replaced Dee Kantner as an ESPN favorite.
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As you know, the Conference Coordinator picks the refs.

That being said, I'm excited to see all the refs fired. There are PLENTY out there ready to step in to their shoes.
 
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Just.A.Fan said:
Amen to that. I turn 85 in four days and constantly make dumb mistakes even when I have re-read what I planned on posting. But, I too, want to keep on going and posting until Geno retires.
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Not dumb mistakes, just minor errors in proofreading. I found a few in a bestselling novel recently, and I’m quite sure those copy editors get paid, unlike the stalwart Boneyarders!
 
donalddoowop said:
Harmon previously was a good outside shooter but last night she looked nothing like her old self. She used to be as bothersome as Hildago. Also, UConn had a rotation of seven and beat a number of teams with a larger rotation. Not many teams have a rotation of ten.
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Yeah, she had multiple open looks from three and did not shoot!
 
I’m with PacoSwede. It would be very nice if some/all of these vaunted shooters finally found their groove. That would make these next two weeks so much more enjoyable!
 
Alydar said:
On a pre-game blog interview Geno told Bob Joyce that Griffin has participated in full contact drills and continues to improve.
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Fabulous news. Like Azzi, she may make her debut with a lesser opponent. I can see lots of minutes with her at the four and Sara at the five.
 
Boreifs said:
Fabulous news. Like Azzi, she may make her debut with a lesser opponent. I can see lots of minutes with her at the four and Sara at the five.
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Or Sarah at the 4 and Aubrey at the 5.
 
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donalddoowop said:
Agree with everything you said, especially your last sentence. On the subject of this thread, I hope when the month of December is over, UConn will still be on the unbeaten list.
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In many ways our schedule is the reverse of most championship contenders. If we can get thru this tough upcoming stretch, we are in great shape. All the other top contenders are now in super conferences, where they will soon face many serious challenges in their conference. Uconn should breeze thru their conference schedule and the post season tournament.

I don't think any team from a power 4 conference will go undefeated in conference. There are just too many very good teams at the top of each of them. We still will have a threat from Tennessee and of course SC, but within a game or two our record heading into the NCAA tournament is largely determined by what happens in the near future, for other contenders most of their big challenges are still to come.
 
ThisJustIn said:
As you know, the Conference Coordinator picks the refs.

That being said, I'm excited to see all the refs fired. There are PLENTY out there ready to step in to their shoes.
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There seem to be a lot of new names this year. I’ve thought the reffing for UConn games has been quite good, calling only obvious fouls and letting the 50-50 calls go. This benefits the Huskies, who play a physical defense
 
Centerstream said:
Joe Vaszily was one of the refs. He seems to have replaced Dee Kantner as an ESPN favorite. IMO, you never know what to expect from him. But I think you are very likely to see at least one "WT!" call per game.
When I saw the OK vs Louisville box score with 50+ PFs called, I was shocked that Joe wasn't involved.
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Hah! MPG, one of The Bench's long-standing and most reliable posters, files a "Report from the Joyce Center" after every home game and this was from point #2:
"I left having strained my vocal chords yelling for the Irish to play defense and expressing my displeasure with the officiating of one Joseph Vaszily, who has offended my sense of basketball fairness for most of this century."

Let's hope neither Husky or Irish fans see Mr. Vaszily in the Joyce Center next Thursday. (On the other hand, that's not an invitation for Dee Kantner, either ;))
 
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Boreifs said:
Fabulous news. Like Azzi, she may make her debut with a lesser opponent. I can see lots of minutes with her at the four and Sara at the five.
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Do you think the Gtown or Providence game for an Aubrey debut?
 
ND guards are really good and they play hard on defense as a team. If UConn tries to defend Hildago with anyone other that KK she will score as many points as she wants in the game. UConn has Paige but if Citron can keep her somewhat contained UConn will struggle with them. No if UConn goes to a bigger line up with Jana and Ice (replacing Chen) in the starting lineup then ND will be forced to adjust to them. This is where I really expect Geno to play a little chess.

I think college basketball at the highest level comes down to matchups and ND matches up great with the current starting lineup but UConn has so many weapons that they can adjust, it will come down to if Geno wants to in the game. Either way I am excited to see how UConn responds to playing really the first test of the year.
 
oldude said:
I beg to differ. TX tried to force feed their Big, Oldacre, in the low post over and over, often when she was double and triple teamed, leading to a bunch of turnovers. ND continued to pack in their zone, practically daring TX to shoot 3’s. Harmon in particular was left all alone at the top of the key.

While it will never happen, I would love to see ND run that same packed in zone against UConn next week. Can you imagine giving Paige that much room to shoot at the top of the zone? :)
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Hah. No chance they run zone against the Huskies. Much like my Cardinal against LSU, it was a brilliant scheme for a team that's loathe to shoot the three ball.
 
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Notre Dame guards are simply too good. Texas was also beaten in the paint, despite the monsters they have in there. Too many turnovers and too many " missed bunnies." ND forced Texas to not play well. It is amazing the game went down to the wire. So Texas is pretty good, despite a poor showing.
 
Next 12 said:
Thank You. I am 91 years old and I make some dumb mistakes. I knew it was Alabama, but when I wrote the post Oklahoma came to my mind. Thank you for correcting me.
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You were probably influenced by the wind that came sweeping down the plain and the waving wheat that sure smells sweet.
 
oldude said:
Iowa is big, slow and overrated.
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I agree. Their win streak was not of the highest quality. But,
Lucy Olsen is doing a fine job for the Hawkeyes (IMHO). She
even had a smile on her face after getting literally floored by
the "big" lady from Tennesse. No upgrade... but she made the
free throws! TOUGH COOKIE!
 
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