Cliff Ellis gets named with all of those legends? Seems like a really good coach that has coached for a long time rather than being in your Rushmore. Three Sweet 16s (although one of his Sweet 16 losses is one of my favorites!). Not attacking you for it. I was just surprised. I'd think there are others that would go ahead of him (Izzo, Sutton jump to mind). Is that a common characterization of Ellis?
No. Dean Smith, Coach K, Cliff Ellis -- that is a first. Even for the Boneyard
As the kids say, STBU(Mass)
If you know anything about the man you would consider him a great coach - he saved a lot of kids who would have ended up in less than desireable situations. - its not exclusive to P5 and well known programs and W/L (even though as I recall his was pretty good). These are not a Mt Rushmore.
Do you even know who he is ???????????????
Gotcha. So it's really who you think of as "great" taking in the totality of your rankings which includes humanitarian factors as much as wins/losses. I have no issue with that. The world needs more people leaving it better than they found it. But then I'd probably remove Rupp if Ellis is being added (and Pitino left off). Even factoring in "times were different" (and I don't want to get into a political debate).
And although I love JC there are probably more than a few people who might think he is not the greatest person….”not a dime back” mostly reporters but he got under others skin as well…
That was your takeaway from not a dime back? The reporters absolutely loved that. It only added to JC's legacy and the Cuse fan Krayeske had to tuck tail after getting dressed down.
My favorite is when he was like “maybe I’d the rest of you did your jobs and reported on this…” to a see of reporters’ groans.
Slick Rick picks up his first transfer. Formerly one of his guys at Iona.
Ok but he was a reporter and JC was not always loved by others….but I get it…more than you think or give me credit for.
Fans of other boards actually REALLY don’t like JC and refer to him as a cheater.
That was the point I was trying to make. He was a hard a…..s. But he was ours and we loved him. But he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Nochimson/Miles, phone calls/texts, APR stuff, plus yeah anybody that got 5*s was probably cheating before NIL (somewhat) legalized it.
Yeah Miles too, another guy that never saw the floor for us.