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Transfer period changing (this is good)

Nice job NCAA, a victory for common sense 😁 . Now lets put on the thinking cap and be more proactive and collaborative and utilize the resources that are in the game--namely the legendary coaches who know a thing or two about the game and care a lot about the student athletes. Its not like the coaches are trying to explain quantum entanglement to you (NCAA). Lets make more progress. Some things that come to mind:

  • The eligibility quagmire where 26-year-old pivots are playing against teenagers, and coaches are left guessing if a player with professional G-League experience is eligible until weeks into the season. The NCAA’s response? Silence, followed by confusing memos, followed by lawsuits. Please see Coach Cal's rant video and Hurley has opined on this. How does this make any sense?
  • Wild Wild West of NIL. Instead of establishing a proactive framework for Name, Image, and Likeness years ago, the NCAA dug its heels in, lost in the Supreme Court, and then threw up its hands, leaving us with a disjointed, unregulated marketplace that forces coaches to be general managers without a salary cap. This is why our legendary coaches are retiring and will continue to retire.
  • Arbitrary enforcement is baffling. Moving with lightning speed to punish minor infractions or deny hardship waivers for family illnesses, yet take years to adjudicate major scandals or clarify rules that impact the competitive integrity of the sport. More transparency on how these decisions are made or lets please bring in some smart people to fix it completely with establishing an independent enforcement body (outsourced arbitration), a sentencing matrix or chart that's clear and logical, and having the NCAA be one not both as a NCCA event planner and the regulator. There may be better ideas, these a few that come to mind.
 
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Not sure how the “immediate effectiveness” impacts mid-year transfers as there has already been some. Unless they grandfather the players who have already transferred, there will be lawsuits against the NCAA, and the NCAA’s record on eligibility lawsuits is pretty pathetic.
 
HuskyNan said:
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Good for several reasons. The portal 'free agency' period should not be active while teams are still playing. Those teams should be able to concentrate on their upcoming games, not splitting their attention with portal recruiting. Further those teams still in the tournament don't even know what their returning roster will be.

After the last game they may find out they have a roster spot they were not anticipating etc. There also could be top players being recruited by teams out of the tournament that get verbal locks before that player even learns if the teams left in the tournament had any interest in them or available slots for them.

This is good and more fair overall, particularly for teams that go far in the tournament. The existing rules put teams succeeding in the tournament at a competitive disadvantage that this change addresses.

I think limiting the portal use to one time would also be a plus if they change that down the road.
 
I think there is a legal problem with limiting portal use to one time with the current NIL landscape. It won't hold up in court in my opinion because it interferes with a player's right to pursue income.
 
The only fair solution to the NIL nightmare is contracts. Both the college and the athlete then gets the best deal possible with early exit clauses that protect the school. Now an athlete (mostly in football and some basketball) can get huge money with no accountability. That makes no sense. If you want to be treated like a professional then find out what that entails.
 
I think that this is a good move too. A similar thread was posted last night on the General Board and I was shocked 😲 that different opinions (ie their changes) would be posted, other than the number of days to enter was open. But then, I remembered, it's the Boneyard.
 
oldhusky said:
The portal 'free agency' period should not be active while teams are still playing. Those teams should be able to concentrate on their upcoming games, not splitting their attention with portal recruiting.
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I said in another thread on the General board just the opposite, that the window should be midseason, perhaps as early as January. Yes, it would be disruptive for teams, but it would also discourage transfer offer shopping by players and poaching by other coaches. And don't worry, I realize my idea is going nowhere. I just think it's worth thinking 'outside the box' every once in a while, even if it yields no immediately practical proposals.
 
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Well, this clears up the spring timeline a bit, although the dates for declaring for the WNBA draft and the draft itself haven't been officially set. The portal and spring signing now only overlap six days, unlike last year and before the new rule change (would have been 30 days ish, I think)

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BRS24 said:
Well, this clears up the spring timeline a bit, although the dates for declaring for the WNBA draft and the draft itself haven't been officially set. The portal and spring signing now only overlap six days, unlike last year and before the new rule change (would have been 30 days ish, I think)

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Excellent graphic. I wonder how this maps onto the high school recruiting calendar.
 
cohenzone said:
Exactly.
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I have seen a number of people on X (twitter) proposing a limitation on the number of transfers and I often add that I would include an additional exception for coaching change so I'm happy to see this
 
Matters not. Once they allowed players to not have to sit a year it became.the wild west. Players can, and do, play for 3 or 4 different schools; there is no loyalty. And the students and fans are the ones that, ultimately, suffer. UConn fans have been fortunate to have not been hit hard by this.
 
oldude said:
Not sure how the “immediate effectiveness” impacts mid-year transfers as there has already been some. Unless they grandfather the players who have already transferred, there will be lawsuits against the NCAA, and the NCAA’s record on eligibility lawsuits is pretty pathetic.
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Does this mean (perhaps it’s always been this way) that coaches cannot have any contact (personal or through intermediaries) with any portal student until after Finals? Are there penalties involved? Yes, I know the portal does not open until after the Finals but are there penalties if someone “heard” so and so wants to leave X and go to Y. If they get caught making predeals with a player, what happens?
 
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I think this entire transfer portal and NIL will eventually ruin college sports.

It's worse in College football too.

It's outrageous that these "college kids" are getting paid millions of dollars at this level.

For instance, I happen to be a LONG time Miami Hurricane football fan. They are literally setting aside $6.5 million dollars to PAY next year's Quarterback..

They are basically going to steal the Quarterback from another school....

This will be the third year in a roll that Miami has bought and paid for another teams Quarterback.

It's no wonder why Saban retired and left Alabama. He was sick and tired of this nonsense...

I will bet Geno is too because he has a similar old fashioned attitude as Saban..

Just my thoughts.
 
Cuango said:
Does this mean (perhaps it’s always been this way) that coaches cannot have any contact (personal or through intermediaries) with any portal student until after Finals? Are there penalties involved? Yes, I know the portal does not open until after the Finals but are there penalties if someone “heard” so and so wants to leave X and go to Y. If they get caught making predeals with a player, what happens?
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There are all kinds of agents and middlemen out there who are contacting coaches and players, regardless of the rules.
 
Back in my college days I had and English professor who opined that college athletics had nothing to do with the mission of the university and that schools should have a "team in residence" to represent them if they wanted to have a team for exposure and marketing. That is essentially what we are getting to for football and basketball (the revenue sports) at least. It's getting that way in softball as well. I'm sure there are others (possibly baseball, soccer, volleyball) but I am not as plugged into those sports.
 
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You can't stop players from announcing "I will transfer."

I guess schools/coaches can't contact the players directly until the window opens, but I assume some under the table stuff will happen.

Also you can't really stop an assistant from saying "hey XX, I hear that your old AAU teammate is transferring. if you happen to talk with her, let her know we have scholarships available ...."
 
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Does this take effect immediately? In other words, are mid-year transfers already off the table or does it start next year?
 
Woof said:
Does this take effect immediately? In other words, are mid-year transfers already off the table or does it start next year?
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I asked that question and it’s unclear, because there have been several mid-year transfers.
 
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Coaches seem to be largely Meh on this. Don’t think it will do much.

USAT article this week
 
ABCDFE said:
Nice job NCAA, a victory for common sense 😁 . Now lets put on the thinking cap and be more proactive and collaborative and utilize the resources that are in the game--namely the legendary coaches who know a thing or two about the game and care a lot about the student athletes. Its not like the coaches are trying to explain quantum entanglement to you (NCAA). Lets make more progress. Some things that come to mind:

  • The eligibility quagmire where 26-year-old pivots are playing against teenagers, and coaches are left guessing if a player with professional G-League experience is eligible until weeks into the season. The NCAA’s response? Silence, followed by confusing memos, followed by lawsuits. Please see Coach Cal's rant video and Hurley has opined on this. How does this make any sense?
  • Wild Wild West of NIL. Instead of establishing a proactive framework for Name, Image, and Likeness years ago, the NCAA dug its heels in, lost in the Supreme Court, and then threw up its hands, leaving us with a disjointed, unregulated marketplace that forces coaches to be general managers without a salary cap. This is why our legendary coaches are retiring and will continue to retire.
  • Arbitrary enforcement is baffling. Moving with lightning speed to punish minor infractions or deny hardship waivers for family illnesses, yet take years to adjudicate major scandals or clarify rules that impact the competitive integrity of the sport. More transparency on how these decisions are made or lets please bring in some smart people to fix it completely with establishing an independent enforcement body (outsourced arbitration), a sentencing matrix or chart that's clear and logical, and having the NCAA be one not both as a NCCA event planner and the regulator. There may be better ideas, these a few that come to mind.
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Excellent ideas. Come back on this ABCDFE will you when you have more thoughts because they all make great sense. The lack of leaderswship on NIL and more by the NCAA executive office including inability to reach out to those like HOF coaches who have a stake in seeing that commonsense rules are established and enforced is more than disappointing. Hopefully, this latest move will set the stage for more innovative thinking.
 
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