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i am slightly biased but i think Harrison will be the best overall center. i think she will be the top post player picked in the WNBA draft. she is so athletic and her skill set on the offensive side of the ball is very impressive. if you had asked me 4 years ago, when williams did not pick TN, i would have said she was the top post player. she has had injuries but her growth at Duke is basically non-existent. she is super athletic but plays the same as she did as a freshman.
 
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Speaking of the LVs, does Mercedes Russell take a step or leap forward? There's some potential there, obviously.

Man, this topic is so frustrating we've got posters taking the name of The Lord in vain. :)
 

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i am slightly biased but i think Harrison will be the best overall center. i think she will be the top post player picked in the WNBA draft. she is so athletic and her skill set on the offensive side of the ball is very impressive. if you had asked me 4 years ago, when williams did not pick TN, i would have said she was the top post player. she has had injuries but her growth at Duke is basically non-existent. she is super athletic but plays the same as she did as a freshman.
Slightly?

Williams was terrific as a freshman. Her assist/to ratio improved every year. Her shooting percentage increase every year. She blocked 100+ shots every season.

Harrison is a very good player. But is certainly not clearly better than Williams. Her assist to ratio is horrid 35/96 and she only blocked 36 shots. She was in foul trouble often and it appeared to me she let her emotions impact her performance in a negative way when things didn't go well for her.

Williams is also a 3 time AA. Harrison was honorable mention once.
 
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I really think Kiah is going to have a breakout season! Her Defense, rebounding and blocks are already top rate, she just has to add a 10'-12' jump shot and she'll be one of the top C's in the country!
 
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Speaking of the LVs, does Mercedes Russell take a step or leap forward? There's some potential there, obviously.

Man, this topic is so frustrating we've got posters taking the name of The Lord in vain. :)
Sometimes, frankly, I don't know how I sleep at night.
 

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Slightly?

Williams was terrific as a freshman. Her assist/to ratio improved every year. Her shooting percentage increase every year. She blocked 100+ shots every season.

Harrison is a very good player. But is certainly not clearly better than Williams. Her assist to ratio is horrid 35/96 and she only blocked 36 shots. She was in foul trouble often and it appeared to me she let her emotions impact her performance in a negative way when things didn't go well for her.

Williams is also a 3 time AA. Harrison was honorable mention once.
DD- I am going to respectfully disagree. I think E Williams will turn out to be almost a non entity in the pros. I think next year any of the highly talented sophomore power forwards/posts will be able to nullify her in big games. I think she is one of the big disappointments as far as B Ball growth since HS. She appears to be a phenomenal person and obviously highly intelligent. I don't see her as a superstar for sure. Solid really really good player. If she is the big gun, Final Four will be difficult. I would rather have , B Turner, Ariel Atkins, or that powerhouse going to Fl State next yr vs Williams- those three players by March/April will be as good as Williams. Or almost as Gd by then. Although Duke is getting new post/ P Forward Belton- she really impressed me in HS All Amer Game. She may help in paint and free up Williams to be more versatile around the hoop. I can't believe with all her training, she looks so horrible taking a jump shot or foul shot. That floors me.
 

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We all pretty much know about Harrison, Williams and Stokes, but what other centers should round out the top 5 next year? Coates from SC, I would think? Who else? Maybe Hamby from Wake? Alleyne from Oregon (or is she more of a forward?)...

And yeah I know Stewie can play in the post, but she's really more of a 4 even tho she can pretty much play anywhere... She'll be at the top of my list of best forwards next season...

UConn fans may know Stokes, but most of the nation doesn't. In three years she has never averaged more than 4.5ppg or 18mpg. Yes, she was playing behind Dolson, but even UConn fans will say that wasn't the only reason she wasn't more effective. She will get a chance to prove herself next year, but she has a lot to prove as a starter (far more than say, Coates from USC, who averaged about the same amount of minutes off the bench but almost tripled Stokes' scoring.)
 

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There are very few centers in WCBB.

With the lack of patience, why would anyone want to play in the post? A post player gets fewer opportunities to be involved in the offense, yet is expected to develop at the same rate. A post player gets blamed for missed shots because they appear easy, whereas guards are rarely blamed for missing jump shots. Guards cannot pass the ball into the post, yet somehow that gets blamed on the post player too.

Being a post player becomes a thankless job, and one which few coaches can appreciate fully because they never played the position.

http://developyourbballiq.com/there-is-no-mystery-in-the-decline-of-post-play-in-basketball/

The above link was posted on the UCLA Forum in response to a quote by CD of this:

"From a recruiting standpoint there are no big kids who want to be in the lane. Everybody thinks they want to shoot threes. In the future it's probably gonna be more remarkable that somebody like Stefanie can dominate inside the way she does."
 
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We shouldn't be discussing Kiah's Mom's religion- or lack there of! This thread is probably over! :)
Do you know what a anes
Kiah's mother is an anesthesiologist. Does she want to be a doc too?
I am sure you know what an anesthesiologist is so why would you mention Kiah's Mom's religion. She is not an atheist.
 

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With the lack of patience, why would anyone want to play in the post? A post player gets fewer opportunities to be involved in the offense, yet is expected to develop at the same rate. A post player gets blamed for missed shots because they appear easy, whereas guards are rarely blamed for missing jump shots. Guards cannot pass the ball into the post, yet somehow that gets blamed on the post player too.

Being a post player becomes a thankless job, and one which few coaches can appreciate fully because they never played the position.

http://developyourbballiq.com/there-is-no-mystery-in-the-decline-of-post-play-in-basketball/

The above link was posted on the UCLA Forum in response to a quote by CD of this:

"From a recruiting standpoint there are no big kids who want to be in the lane. Everybody thinks they want to shoot threes. In the future it's probably gonna be more remarkable that somebody like Stefanie can dominate inside the way she does."

That's not true of all coaches. While in Auriemma's system the post player is often the "worst in America," it's the point guard who is held responsible for whatever goes wrong, as Rizzotti and Bird famously lamented.
 

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Digger, I would say playfully lamented. I don't think either wanted it any other way.
 

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Do you know what a anes

I am sure you know what an anesthesiologist is so why would you mention Kiah's Mom's religion. She is not an atheist.
Just weird.
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DD- I am going to respectfully disagree. I think E Williams will turn out to be almost a non entity in the pros. I think next year any of the highly talented sophomore power forwards/posts will be able to nullify her in big games. I think she is one of the big disappointments as far as B Ball growth since HS. She appears to be a phenomenal person and obviously highly intelligent. I don't see her as a superstar for sure. Solid really really good player. If she is the big gun, Final Four will be difficult. I would rather have , B Turner, Ariel Atkins, or that powerhouse going to Fl State next yr vs Williams- those three players by March/April will be as good as Williams. Or almost as Gd by then. Although Duke is getting new post/ P Forward Belton- she really impressed me in HS All Amer Game. She may help in paint and free up Williams to be more versatile around the hoop. I can't believe with all her training, she looks so horrible taking a jump shot or foul shot. That floors me.

Williams pro potential is an interesting question to me. She might not be a starter but a backup post who can protect the paint has a lot of value. If she wants to, I bet she stay on a WNBA roster for a long time. Her offense is disappointing and it's surprising that her free throw shooting is getting worse. However, her resume is still incredible at this point in her career and she's a true defensive force at the college level
 

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Williams pro potential is an interesting question to me. She might not be a starter but a backup post who can protect the paint has a lot of value. If she wants to, I bet she stay on a WNBA roster for a long time. Her offense is disappointing and it's surprising that her free throw shooting is getting worse. However, her resume is still incredible at this point in her career and she's a true defensive force at the college level
My point really was- there was real hype about her- big time! #1 pick and more. She is not much more than a really good player. I was comparing her to what everyone thought she would be I guess.
 
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