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Top 25 week 2

aburks41 said:
I posted this in my own thread, but if mods want to merge them that's fine

I did this last year each Monday morning and I think it's time to start it up again...
With the first week of games finally being played, we should see some shifting in the polls

Top 25 teams with losses this week:
#11 Tennessee v Colorado
#16 Villanova v Temple
#21 Oregon v UC Irvine

Here are some public AP ballots for week 1: (Last week's rank in parentheses)
Jon Rothstein: 24 (24)
Chris Murray: NR (NR)
Rick Bozich: 20 (22)
C.L. Brown: 22 (NR)
Jerry Carino: 23 (23)
Clayton Collier: 20 (22)
Mark Berman NR (NR)

Non-AP Analytic Sites:
Kenpom: 19 (25)
Barttorvik: 53
Evan Miya: 29
Massey: 30
Team Rankings: 24
Sagarin: 28

This is all I could find for now...Usually Seth Davis and Borges post theirs early, but not sure why they didn't this week.

Prediction: UConn #24
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Rothstein had us at 24 much of last season as well.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Being ranked matters, especially when we're trying to restore the perception of the program.

Viewers see a number next to your name and know you're in contention. They don't see a number there and have no idea if you're #26 or #326 and just assume you're irrelevant.
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Hard to believe there’s people who still don’t understand this.
 
ThabeetDown said:
I think UNC is massively overrated. They seem to me EXACTLY like UCLA last year -- team that got hot for a deep tourney run at a blue blood school, brought everyone back, and will not be able to meet expectations of a top team. There was a reason they weren't that good most of last year (like UCLA 2 years ago) and I see the same thing this year. Are they a top 15 team? Probably. Top 1-2? No.
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North Carolina played well in the 2nd half of the season (12-3 in their last 15 games, but the Pittsburgh loss threw people off their scent). The last month of the season they were a top 15 team by efficiency stats not including the tournament run. UCLA literally lost 4 straight games heading into that their tournament and then got unsustainably hot from midrange (winning 2 games in OT). A top 15 team that played well in March that returns everyone would be a top 5 team most years.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Being ranked matters, especially when we're trying to restore the perception of the program.

Viewers see a number next to your name and know you're in contention. They don't see a number there and have no idea if you're #26 or #326 and just assume you're irrelevant.
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Additionally, ESPN shows game highlights for all ranked teams. Again, helpful for visibility and perception.
 
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aburks41 said:
Oregon is definitely out. Nova might fall out too. We looked like one of the most impressive teams so far and we're missing 2 first round picks. Over half of the top 25 struggled with their cupcake games (look at Creighton, UNC, etc). We won by 31 and 29. We'll be ranked
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I agree with all that. I was just arguing against us getting up to 24. But, splitting hairs of course. Lol
 
auror said:
North Carolina played well in the 2nd half of the season (12-3 in their last 15 games, but the Pittsburgh loss threw people off their scent). The last month of the season they were a top 15 team by efficiency stats not including the tournament run. UCLA literally lost 4 straight games heading into that their tournament and then got unsustainably hot from midrange (winning 2 games in OT). A top 15 team that played well in March that returns everyone would be a top 5 team most years.
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All the teams relying heavily on freshmen are going to have struggles early in the year. Happens all the time, whether Duke, Kentucky, UNC or maybe UConn next year. Some years those players click and get rolling, some years they don't. UK has had some really wild swings at times.

I still don't see how UConn isn't ranked higher but these voters are mostly just a big herd of people who follow the group narrative.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Hard to believe there’s people who still don’t understand this.
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it is? let's try this.
when i hit my ms start page, one highlighted choice is 'sports.'
hit the link, and u get the sports page.
at the very top are further links. here they are in ms' order:
world cup, nfl, nba, mlb, nhl, ncaa fb, golf. then comes the 3 dots to tell u that there is other stuff. it's on the other stuff button that u can find ncaa bk, ncaa wbk, cricket, tennis, soccer, esports, etc. if i didn't mess with their algo heads, it would just show 'UConn Sports' on opening.
people are not dumb, they just may have an opinion of what's important different than yours. sometimes, they are a majority. mostly in november, the only longterm and important result is if someone beat a full strength supertop team, or if a supertop team, full strength, lost to a team of gerbils.
wins are always good. soccer is boring. fb drives the college cash bus.
these people make their living knowing what's important to the majority of us. good on them, except for the part where they never ask for my opinion on soccer. i guess that i don't matter. i'v heard that before. no big. i'll still eat.
 
SoFla Steve said:
Our allies and our non-believers - Week 2

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This is really interesting. It’s nearly 50/50 on NRs vs. Ranked votes. We have some obvious homers ranking us way too high that dragged us up.

Is it usually like this? I feel like teams that get over 20 NR votes shouldn’t also have 7 votes in the top 20 lol
 
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REB1094 said:
This is really interesting. It’s nearly 50/50 on NRs vs. Ranked votes. We have some obvious homers ranking us way too high that dragged us up.

Is it usually like this? I feel like teams that get over 20 NR votes shouldn’t also have 7 votes in the top 20 lol
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Yeah I think so, for the unranked teams in a given week. Once you're in, it's usually a little more consistent about everyone voting for you. It's why it's important for the voting block to be geographically diverse.
 
CTBasketball said:
I’d rather see Oregon be ranked when we play them next week. More hype.
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I'm less concerned about our opponents being ranked. What matters for our opponents is the computer numbers, i.e. Quad 1 wins for our resume.
 
HooperScooper said:
Huskies make it into The Top 25 and 1 CBSSports.com ranking for the first time this season.

www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Michigan State vaults into top five in Top 25 And 1 after win over Kentucky

The Spartans took down the Wildcats in a double-overtime thriller on Tuesday in the Champions Classic
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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Yeah Parrish was essentially doing this during their podcast from last night. Dayton lost live and he said we were up next. Norlander shouted out Newton's triple double as well.
 
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My wife picked up a lindy’s mag @ wegmans today. I told her to pick it up because Andre was on the cover in Philly.

great karma
 
24, 21, 20, and 15 have lost so far. And 15 was unimpressive in other games and has some injuries, so they may drop all the way out. Poised to climb if we can take care of business.
 
I just honestly think the we [UConn] are amongst the best 25 teams right now.

Add Ajax and Hawk together, finally. Reigning BE 1st teamer in Adama. Transfers seem even better than advertised. Truly big bodies to spare. Figure we meet the three future NBA players "rule".

Cup half full
 
Agree - looking at who is ahead of UConn - think this is more of a top 15 team with Hawkins and Jackson back
 
auror said:
24, 21, 20, and 15 have lost so far. And 15 was unimpressive in other games and has some injuries, so they may drop all the way out. Poised to climb if we can take care of business.
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Movin' on up to #24 in the CBSSports.com Top 25 and 1 because of the other teams losing.

www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Creighton holds firm in Top 25 And 1 with Maui Invitational slate ahead

Creighton has the opportunity to pick up some prominent wins during the annual tournament next week
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
 
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CashewCrew said:
#24 A&M is getting absolutely boat raced by Colorado right now, 66-38 with 17 minutes to play
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And Colorado just lost to UMass yesterday. The topsy turvy results of college basketball.
 
CashewCrew said:
#24 A&M is getting absolutely boat raced by Colorado right now, 66-38 with 17 minutes to play
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Is getting boat raced a good thing, bad thing, or just a thing? Asking for a friend
 
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