Top 10 List for Lieberman Award. Guess Who.

[eebmg]

Yup., Paige Bueckers selected as one of 10 candidates for the 2021 Nancy Lieberman Award Geez. I think she is the favorite.

Destiny Slocum	Arkansas
DiDi Richards	Baylor
Dyaisha Fair	Buffalo
Paige Bueckers	Connecticut
Ali Patberg	Indiana
Hailey Van Lith	Louisville
Myah Taylor	Mississippi State
Raina Perez	NC State
Diamond Johnson	Rutgers
Tiana Mangakahia	Syracuse

 

[Sched234]

Yup., Paige Bueckers selected as one of 10 candidates for the 2021 Nancy Lieberman Award Geez. I think she is the favorite.

Destiny Slocum	Arkansas
DiDi Richards	Baylor
Dyaisha Fair	Buffalo
Paige Bueckers	Connecticut
Ali Patberg	Indiana
Hailey Van Lith	Louisville
Myah Taylor	Mississippi State
Raina Perez	NC State
Diamond Johnson	Rutgers
Tiana Mangakahia	Syracuse

I agree Bueckers is the favorite.

Questionable list overall. Where is Destanni Henderson?

 

[ScottCT]

I'm kinda surprised that caitlyn Clarke isn't on the list. She does play point guard right?

 

[bballnut90]

Yup., Paige Bueckers selected as one of 10 candidates for the 2021 Nancy Lieberman Award Geez. I think she is the favorite.

Destiny Slocum	Arkansas
DiDi Richards	Baylor
Dyaisha Fair	Buffalo
Paige Bueckers	Connecticut
Ali Patberg	Indiana
Hailey Van Lith	Louisville
Myah Taylor	Mississippi State
Raina Perez	NC State
Diamond Johnson	Rutgers
Tiana Mangakahia	Syracuse

Surprised no inclusion of Caitlin Clark or Destanni Henderson, both of whom are having far better seasons than most on this list.

 

[eebmg]

I'm kinda surprised that caitlyn Clarke isn't on the list.

More of a shooting guard I think.

 

[bluedevil]

Who could possibly beat her?

 

[ucbart]

So, on what planet is Dana Evans not the PG at Louisville?

These lists are always just such comedy.

The top 4 candidates are:

Bueckers
Clark
Evans
Henderson

 

[eebmg]

So, on what planet is Dana Evans not the PG at Louisville?

These lists are always just such comedy.

The top 4 candidates are:

Bueckers
Clark
Evans
Henderson

Yup. Evans would probably be the toughest for Paige to beat out.

 

[hart2hart]

PIMP - Ha, Paige is my Pick, Hands-Down!

 

[DaBball]

Dana Evans, Ashley Owusu, and Aari McDonald are all on the shooting guard list for those wondering.

 

[eebmg]

Dana Evans, Ashley Owusu, and Aari McDonald are all on the shooting guard list for those wondering.

Did they release the top 10?

 

[HuskyFan1125]

These lists are a joke honestly....

yes...

Evans (Louisville)
Henderson (South Carolina)
McDonald (Arizona)
Clark (Iowa)
Hayes (MTSU)
Burton (Northwestern)

And absolute no disrespect to Diamond Johnson but Rutgers has played how many games??

 

[bballnut90]

Dana Evans, Ashley Owusu, and Aari McDonald are all on the shooting guard list for those wondering.

These lists are a joke if those players as classified as SG. PG is arguably the only position where you can clearly tell if someone is a PG or not, yet they somehow classify these 3 as shooting guards when they are clearly PGs.

 

[CocoHusky]

So, on what planet is Dana Evans not the PG at Louisville?

Earth mostly.

 

[CocoHusky]

These lists are a joke honestly....

yes...

Evans (Louisville)
Henderson (South Carolina)
McDonald (Arizona)
Magakahia (Syracuse)
Clark (Iowa)
Hayes (MTSU)
Burton (Northwestern)

And absolute no disrespect to Diamond Johnson but Rutgers has played how many games??

It not a joke actually well thought out down selection. They are not sudenly going to add people to the list.
Here are the names from the preseason list. This is also WBCA controlled meaning that it's up to the coach to nominate a player for these awards if they feel strongly enough.

2021 Nancy Lieberman Point Guard of the Year Award Candidates*

Destiny Slocum	Arkansas
DiDi Richards	Baylor
Dyaisha Fair	Buffalo
Micaela Kelly	Central Michigan
Paige Bueckers	Connecticut
Tiana England	Florida State
Ali Patberg	Indiana
Tra-'Dayja Smith	Longwood
Hailey Van Lith	Louisville
Amy Dilk	Michigan
Myah Taylor	Mississippi State
Raina Perez	NC State
Cece Hooks	Ohio
Diamond Johnson	Rutgers
Nevena Dimitrijevic	St. Francis - Brooklyn
Tiana Mangakahia	Syracuse
Lauren Heard	TCU
Kyra Lambert	Texas
Dru Glyten	Utah
Katia Gallegos	UTEP

 

[CocoHusky]

These lists are a joke if those players as classified as SG. PG is arguably the only position where you can clearly tell if someone is a PG or not, yet they somehow classify these 3 as shooting guards when they are clearly PGs.

This is a WBCA award coaches get to nominate their players for these awards.

 

[Bigboote]

Dana Evans, Ashley Owusu, and Aari McDonald are all on the shooting guard list for those wondering.

And van Lith on the point guard list. You gotta wonder whether the folks who make up the lists pay any attention to WBB.

 

[HuskyFan1125]

It not a joke actually well thought out down selection. They are not sudenly going to add people to the list.
Here are the names from the preseason list. This is also WBCA controlled meaning that it's up to the coach to nominate a player for these awards if they feel strongly enough.

2021 Nancy Lieberman Point Guard of the Year Award Candidates*

Destiny Slocum	Arkansas
DiDi Richards	Baylor
Dyaisha Fair	Buffalo
Micaela Kelly	Central Michigan
Paige Bueckers	Connecticut
Tiana England	Florida State
Ali Patberg	Indiana
Tra-'Dayja Smith	Longwood
Hailey Van Lith	Louisville
Amy Dilk	Michigan
Myah Taylor	Mississippi State
Raina Perez	NC State
Cece Hooks	Ohio
Diamond Johnson	Rutgers
Nevena Dimitrijevic	St. Francis - Brooklyn
Tiana Mangakahia	Syracuse
Lauren Heard	TCU
Kyra Lambert	Texas
Dru Glyten	Utah
Katia Gallegos	UTEP

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[CocoHusky]

And van Lith on the point guard list. You gotta wonder whether the folks who make up the lists pay any attention to WBB.

The folks that make up the list and get to nominate players are WBCA coaches they pay attention.

 

[KY Card Fan]

The folks that make up the list and get to nominate players are WBCA coaches they pay attention.

Regardless of how much attention they pay --- I've seen every minute that Van Lith has played. She is in no way a point guard this season. She will likely be the PG next season when Evans is gone. The Louisville offense runs through Evans. She initiates it and the ball is in her hands almost all the time at the end of possessions, especially in close games.

 

[da60]

DUH..................This kid could be the best ever. How about calling her a female Pistol Pete Maravich....Point guard Royalty...I have never seen a young lady with such attributes. Go Paige...Go girls!

 

[CocoHusky]

There has been a lot of misinformation within the last couple of post regarding how the WBCA positions work.
Here are the facts: WBCA sponsors (5) position awards 1) Nancy Lieberman Point Guard Award 2) Ann Meyers Drysdale Shooting Guard Award 3) Cheryl Miller Small Forward Award 4) Katrina McClain Power Forward Award and 5) Lisa Leslie Center Award.
At the beginning of the season a watch list of 20 players is created by nominations from the coaches. A player CANNOT appear on more than 1 watch list at a time. Through the season the list is narrowed down first 10 then to 5 ? before a winner for each award is selected. Very unlikely that a player plays their way on to the list but it does happen. The key to nominations are the coaches advocating for their players-not fan, not the press, not some AD-Just Coaches. An example of good advocacy is Kim Mulkey this season. When Kim realized that Didi Richards was going to be her starting PG she petitioned for Didi to be added to the Liberman watch list and Kim was successful. Now You know and I know that Didi is not a PG but that not the point. The point is to win one of these awards you need your coach to first nominate you and then advocate by getting some other coaches to vote for you. Yes you read that correctly-Not only do coaches nominate the COACHES ALSO VOTE on these awards.

Naismith Starting 5

In 2018, the WBCA partnered with the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame to present five awards, named after Basketball Hall of Fame greats, to the top college women's basketball players in the country each season at the five positions.

wbca.org

 

[CocoHusky]

Regardless of how much attention they pay --- I've seen every minute that Van Lith has played. She is in no way a point guard this season. She will likely be the PG next season when Evans is gone. The Louisville offense runs through Evans. She initiates it and the ball is in her hands almost all the time at the end of possessions, especially in close games.

Please read my last post and then go take it up with Jeff. Jeff or someone close to him chose to put Dana Evans on the SG list and Hailey on the PG list-COACHES NOMINATE and VOTE.

 

[Glenn]

Thanks Coco for describing the nomination process. Here are some stats for the top 10. Buekers' numbers look pretty good

	Assists	TO	Assists/TO	Scoring	shooting %	rebounds	games
Mangakahia	7.8	5.0	1.6	10.4	39	3.8	11
Richards	6.5	2.0	3.3	7.8	45	2.5	13
Buekers	5.7	2.5	2.3	18.5	55	5.6	11
Fair	5.3	3.0	1.8	24.4	38	6.7	14
Perez	4.8	1.8	2.6	9.8	47	4.0	12
Taylor	4.3	1.5	2.8	8.5	41	2.5	13
Patberg	3.6	1.6	2.2	12.1	40	3.9	14
Slocum	3.6	1.5	2.4	14.6	46	3.6	19
Van Lith	2.1	1.6	1.4	12.3	44	5.8	16
Johnson	2.0	1.9	1.1	17.8	53	3.9	8

 

[SCspur]

Henderson and SC is only after one goal! Besides the Dawn Staley Award is the only one that matters to her!

 

[CocoHusky]

Henderson and SC is only after one goal! Besides the Dawn Staley Award is the only one that matters to her!

 

[KY Card Fan]

Please read my last post and then go take it up with Jeff. Jeff or someone close to him chose to put Dana Evans on the SG list and Hailey on the PG list-COACHES NOMINATE and VOTE.

Aha - I've got it now. Thanks.

 

[CTtoSanDiego]

Screw the Lieberman.... Paige is the only Frosh on the late season Wooden Award list! (20 names, including, to my amazement, ONO)

UConn Huskies' Paige Bueckers lone freshman on Wooden Award top 20 list for women's college basketball

Paige Bueckers is one of 20 players on the Wooden Award late-season top 20 list, which was released Monday.

www.espn.com

 

[CocoHusky]

Thanks Coco for describing the nomination process. Here are some stats for the top 10. Buekers' numbers look pretty good

	Assists	TO	Assists/TO	Scoring	shooting %	rebounds	games
Mangakahia	7.8	5.0	1.6	10.4	39	3.8	11
Richards	6.5	2.0	3.3	7.8	45	2.5	13
Buekers	5.7	2.5	2.3	18.5	55	5.6	11
Fair	5.3	3.0	1.8	24.4	38	6.7	14
Perez	4.8	1.8	2.6	9.8	47	4.0	12
Taylor	4.3	1.5	2.8	8.5	41	2.5	13
Patberg	3.6	1.6	2.2	12.1	40	3.9	14
Slocum	3.6	1.5	2.4	14.6	46	3.6	19
Van Lith	2.1	1.6	1.4	12.3	44	5.8	16
Johnson	2.0	1.9	1.1	17.8	53	3.9	8

Yes! Paige is indeed on track to win this award.

 

[WBBSUperFan]

Surprised no inclusion of Caitlin Clark or Destanni Henderson, both of whom are having far better seasons than most on this list.

Clark will likely show up on the Drysdale list, which I would agree with. She has little chance of winning the Lieberman award with a Assist/TO ratio of 1.25. I honestly think she is more of shooting guard than PG. She has a lot of assists, but that doesn't mean she is a true PG. Iowa normally shoots the ball after only 1 or 2 passes, not that its a negative, just an observation.

I do think Destanni Henderson should be there instead of Didi Richards. High assist don't always mean facilitator of offense.