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This is like the perfect bounce back game for SC. Crooks and Brown will pose a good challenge and Dawn's front court will have to respond to win -- and they're perfectly capable of it if they are on their game.
 

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Dawn Staley was recently interviewed, with her saying that you can only coach so much before players tune you out. During the UCLA game, she was surprisingly quiet, very unlike her usual game presence. I think Dawn was sending a message about this team needing to listen more. I think she has there complete attention now.
 
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I'm currently avoiding the game so I have no idea what is happening right now (it's recording at home while I am having Thanksgiving lunch with the family), but I'd be shocked if this game was close. Crooks is not Betts, and I think the team speed will be too much for Iowa State to handle.
 

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Who thought this was going to be a good matchup for the Holiday? The only women's game on and this is it? Can't call this game threading because you can't call this a game.
 
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SC simply has better athletes. I’m glad to see that their defense has come together. It’s been an impressive effort so far. On offense, it’s less cohesive. About games like this, Geno used to complain that they only show they he’s recruited better athletes, not that they play better basketball. I suspect Dawn would share this sentiment.

One example, Joyce Edwards got a steal on Kenzie Hare and raced down the court. It was an impressive display of her athleticism, her quick hands and her speed down the court. Too much of SC’s offense is about excellent individual plays like this. They’re wonderful to see. But they can become even better as a team than this. And I expect Dawn is going to be working overtime on this for the next few months.
 

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SC simply has better athletes. I’m glad to see that their defense has come together. It’s been an impressive effort so far. On offense, it’s less cohesive. About games like this, Geno used to complain that they only show they he’s recruited better athletes, not that they play better basketball. I suspect Dawn would share this sentiment.

One example, Joyce Edwards got a steal on Kenzie Hare and raced down the court. It was an impressive display of her athleticism, her quick hands and her speed down the court. Too much of SC’s offense is about excellent individual plays like this. They’re wonderful to see. But they can become even better as a team than this. And I expect Dawn is going to be working overtime on this for the next few months.
I feel like that's Dawn's bread and butter though: land great athletes and try and mold them into great basketball players. She seems to prioritize height, length and athleticism above developed basketball skill and players usually develop well during their time at SC. This year the team still looks rough around the edges compared to last season. Players are figuring out their role since last year the team chemistry was through the roof and now they're incorporating more players and have more depth (which isn't always a good thing). Getting embarrassed by UCLA is probably what was needed to get players dialed in. If they stay dialed in, they're one of (if not the) top title favorite/s again this year.
 
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Yeah SC is more athletic but I would’ve hoped that a recent top 10 team would be able to do a better job at knowing how to counter that.
 

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Yikes! Coming into this season, I honestly believed that Iowa State had an outside shot at making the Final Four. They still could, but these last three games of theirs have been quite the revelation. :oops:
 
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Fact 1: South Carolina was significantly more athletic at every position.
Fact 2: Iowa State's "offense" consists of dribbling at least 20 seconds every possession.

Fact 1 + Fact 2 = Iowa State getting almost no shots.

Conclusion: Bill Fennelly was not a good coach today.
 
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Yeah SC is more athletic but I would’ve hoped that a recent top 10 team would be able to do a better job at knowing how to counter that.
But has ISU really shown that they were a top 10 team so far? Personally, I think the press and coaches relied too much on how they overachieved when the initial rankings came out. When compared to Iowa who lost in the championship finals and were ranked lower, it didn't make sense to me.
 

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Iowa St has 3 key pieces back, Crooks and Brown down low, and the guard Ryan. That should be enough to be good, but they are certainly not playing like it.

Iowa thunk the media has nothing but rotation players coming back, and Olson was coming in as an inferior replacement for Clark. Hence the rankings.

Tonight Iowa was without Olson and they just plugged in two of those pesky rotation players, McCabe and Feuerbach, and they won again. Turns out these ladies are more than competent and they now go 9 deep with 3 posts and 6 guards. Plenty of assists, fun to watch.

Iowa State can't really be this bad. They will figure it out, but I think they will be more of a 11-20 team not #8.
 
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Iowa St has 3 key pieces back, Crooks and Brown down low, and the guard Ryan. That should be enough to be good, but they are certainly not playing like it.

Iowa thunk the media has nothing but rotation players coming back, and Olson was coming in as an inferior replacement for Clark. Hence the rankings.

Tonight Iowa was without Olson and they just plugged in two of those pesky rotation players, McCabe and Feuerbach, and they won again. Turns out these ladies are more than competent and they now go 9 deep with 3 posts and 6 guards. Plenty of assists, fun to watch.

Iowa State can't really be this bad. They will figure it out, but I think they will be more of a 11-20 team not #8.
Stuelke was an all-Big10 player and Affolter came close to winning the 6th man award last season. Considering them role players is a stretch to me if we're going to consider Crooks, Brown and Ryan key players for Iowa State. Iowa was also supposed to have a talented sophomore class of players.

If that's the logic the media used, it doesn't make sense to me. On paper, both team's situations to start the season were similar. They both should have been in the 15-20 range.
 
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Stuelke was an all-Big10 player and Affolter came close to winning the 6th man award last season. Considering them role players is a stretch to me if we're going to consider Crooks, Brown and Ryan key players for Iowa State. Iowa was also supposed to have a talented sophomore class of players.

If that's the logic the media used, it doesn't make sense to me. On paper, both team's situations to start the season were similar. They both should have been in the 15-20 range.
Actually it's their freshman class with 4 top 100 players, so still pretty green. Their only sophomore on the roster still is rehabbing after a knee injury.
 

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