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Today’s Visit from Mora

This is business, not personal. We're not Ole Miss and he's not Lane Kiffin. If an east coast kid wants to pull up stakes for Fort Collins .... his choice. for the time being UConn and the next coach ought to embrace being a Raiders-style "last stop" (eg Plunkett, Hendricks, etc etc). And FWIW uconn and colorado state have the same amount of players in the NFL (6).

Ironically, Wyoming will open next season with Colorado State and end it with UConn. that should be an interesting barometer.
 
businesslawyer said:
I have bad news for everyone. Given our position, whenever a coach comes here and fully succeeds, he will quit for greener pastures after a few years and we will have to rebuild, or a coach won’t succeed, we fire him after 3 or 4 seasons and we have a total rebuild.

That is just our reality unless and until we are in a power conference. It would make it easier on everyone if we accept it and root for the coach who quits because he succeeded as opposed to the coach who we fire because he didn’t.
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It's sad you think Colorado State is greener pastures.
 
EdgewoodNHV said:
This is the case even if you are in a power conference. Good coaches will leave for greener pastures. Being in the SEC didn't protect Ole Miss.

There are like... six jobs which this is not the case. Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Notre Dame.

Everyone else is poachable.
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Exactly right! Kiffen just left a CFP bound Ole Miss. I don't think Mora's leaving had much if anything to do about money. That said, most of these guys want guaranteed money and as much of it as they can get their hands on. The NYT today had a piece on Kiffen's contract with LSU. It's even more rediculous than what Kelly got!
 
businesslawyer said:
I have bad news for everyone. Given our position, whenever a coach comes here and fully succeeds, he will quit for greener pastures after a few years and we will have to rebuild, or a coach won’t succeed, we fire him after 3 or 4 seasons and we have a total rebuild.

That is just our reality unless and until we are in a power conference. It would make it easier on everyone if we accept it and root for the coach who quits because he succeeded as opposed to the coach who we fire because he didn’t.
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Heck, this is happening at most P4 schools these days too. We literally just saw a coach leave a team heading for the playoffs for one that isn’t even top 25. This is the reality everywhere except for maybe 5-10 schools
 
uconndogs said:
Exactly right! Kiffen just left a CFP bound Ole Miss. I don't think Mora's leaving had much if anything to do about money. That said, most of these guys want guaranteed money and as much of it as they can get their hands on. The NYT today had a piece on Kiffen's contract with LSU. It's even more rediculous than what Kelly got!
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I heard Lane talking about his contract and he stated that he wasn’t even aware of the numbers. He told his agent Jimmy Sexton to not disclose that to him. Sounds like total BS.
 
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superjohn said:
Yes and some of our fans love it. That's the crowd who constantly loves getting kicked in the balls.
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If he genuinely just wants to address the team and say goodbye, I'm all for it. But Mora is smart enough to know he can use this to his advantage to improve CSU
 
psilotic said:
This is business, not personal. We're not Ole Miss and he's not Lane Kiffin. If an east coast kid wants to pull up stakes for Fort Collins .... his choice. for the time being UConn and the next coach ought to embrace being a Raiders-style "last stop" (eg Plunkett, Hendricks, etc etc). And FWIW uconn and colorado state have the same amount of players in the NFL (6).

Ironically, Wyoming will open next season with Colorado State and end it with UConn. that should be an interesting barometer.
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Tbf there are way worst places to be in Colorado than Fort Collins. I've read it's an great place to live. Not to convince anyone to move there.
 
HuskiesFan1014 said:
Gonna go out on a limb and say most of us would be OK with you no longer calling Jim "Him." Maybe FHCJM works.
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Yeah, been thinking about that. I don't want to use his name, just keeping it real informal (and petty). I think others have called him VoldeM0r@ and "he who shall not be named". ^_^ I'll meet you halfway and go with "our last HC".
 
businesslawyer said:
I have bad news for everyone. Given our position, whenever a coach comes here and fully succeeds, he will quit for greener pastures after a few years and we will have to rebuild, or a coach won’t succeed, we fire him after 3 or 4 seasons and we have a total rebuild.

That is just our reality unless and until we are in a power conference. It would make it easier on everyone if we accept it and root for the coach who quits because he succeeded as opposed to the coach who we fire because he didn’t.
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Ol’Miss called. VM said being in a P4 doesn’t protect you from losing your coach.
 
ktuck911 said:
We seem to be in a much better spot these days... AD DB just has to get another charisma type guy in here...
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This. Right now the narrative is "Jim Mora is so good he can even succeed at Connecticut". Get a new quality guy in here who succeeds and the narrative is that the "program" continues to improve. In many ways, this is a necessary next step. That doesn't mean that it won't be uncomfortable during the transition.

It's been said multiple times, but we need to get another coach appointed so we can stop the hemorrhaging and get back in the transfer portal game.
 
EdgewoodNHV said:
This is the case even if you are in a power conference. Good coaches will leave for greener pastures. Being in the SEC didn't protect Ole Miss.

There are like... six jobs which this is not the case. Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Notre Dame.

Everyone else is poachable.
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Yes this is true, but in a power conference, lateral/close to lateral moves like much of this fanbase views CSU are less likely to happen. If our coach is being poached by an SEC/ upper echelon B10 team, then something has gone extremely right. It will sting, but there are levels to losing a coach and how that reflects on the program.
 
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AllHusky said:
Yeah, I don’t think it’s ”classy” to give him an opportunity to meet with the team. One person and one person only, Jim Mora wants this. The team doesn’t. They’ve had time to digest over the last week. The good feelings have ebbed and reality has set in. Their Coach is gone, all of the underclass men have to consider their futures, and the Seniors have had their accomplishments overshadowed by Coaching drama. Dave is allowing this so he doesn’t come off as petty. Mora can’t do any more damage than he’s already done, so this is a selfish act. He could’ve handled this via social media and a zoom call the day after the announcement came, and came off as much more gracious than he has. This is damage control for him as he poaches recruits.
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Really. You talked to every player and assistant? They are likely curous about things that effect them. I wouldn't be surprised if most questions are asked of DB (or an AD rep if he isnt there) after the initial bunch of questions directly to JM. It's a business for most of them too. It's not 4 year lettermen folding new freshman into the family. It's likely no different than when your boss leaves. If you only were staying because you liked your boss, you leave after they did. Some like the company and stay regardless of their direct leader(s).
 
I actually have no problem with Mora coming back to leave as long as he's clearly not recruiting players. It's a win for Mora because it makes him look "classy" but it's also a win for UConn if he's still telling people to look out for Bell and Fagnano for post season awards and the draft. I know I am in the minority here. UConn's niche the next couple years has to be "being a bit different". All of those schools who left for greener pasture other than Louisville are complete tire fires. Pitt is pretty good at football (their biggest moment this year though is "who beat them by more, Miami or Notre Dame") but their once great basketball team is in shambles. If we go two more years in this 7-9 win pattern (especially with tougher schedules the next two years), it's only going to shine a new light on us as the program that "did it differently". Maybe the no conference thing works for the next 3-5 years if we keep getting bowl eligible and beat P4 teams. In 5 years, it's going to be the "P2", whatever they want to call the ACC/Big 12, and a bunch of little brothers with the American and Pac 12 pretending they are somehow a third tier around the ACC/Big 12 and better than MAC/Sun Belt and CUSA.
 
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CTBballfan243 said:
The Team has been burned to the ground already. This will be a total rebuild. When the new coach gets the team back on solid ground and we start winning again I'm sure he will get poached as well. Rinse and repeat. We better get use to it. This will not be the last time our coach and players get poached.
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This feels dramatic. We had hardly any high school recruits this season, which has been the MO throughout Mora’s time here. There is always turnover when there is a coaching change. If we make the right hire, we will retain guys, because not everyone came here specifically for Mora (although some did), and we will build in the portal like we have the last four years. Turnover was going to be high this year regardless.

If we manage to somehow retain Sammis, we will keep our O-Line together which will be huge. If we keep Sammis’ hand-picked successor, we might keep many of the O-Line, but we’ll definitely have a strong coach there. Same for the rest of the position coaches. Let this play out.
 
gandydancer said:
If UConn doesn't build an on campus stadium, it will always be viewed as a second rate football school. Until that happens, Mora is right, we will be seen as a basketball school.
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So what? Where is UConn getting $500M to build an on campus stadium, not even factoring in home improvements.
 
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