Absolutely agree
Did you observe how unbelievably slow Mabry Sr. is?
She had at least a quarter of the court lead on Mo's breakaway and still hardly even tried to keep up.
Absolutely agree
Did you observe how unbelievably slow Mabry Sr. is?
She had at least a quarter of the court lead on Mo's breakaway and still hardly even tried to keep up.
I wondered about this as well. My answer: Geno knew after the opening burst that his starters could beat ND. So he brought in the bench players to let them get experience in a high pressure game against a bit time opponent. Did you watch Geno on sidelines. No hands through the hair, no looking at the assistants and asking them "what the hell are you teaching them?" He seemed like he was in control so he let people work through challenges and got valuable tape.
Statistically, Mabrey's been significantly better than the UConn freshmen thus far.
Geno will overlook her shooting IF she makes up for it with defense, rebounding, and movement on offense. If she just waits to launch 3s and isn't making them, well, have a seat.Mabrey looked really good (until she got a face full of Mo), but it must be incredibly difficult for a kid like Lou to go from being the nation's #1 recruit and scoring 30 points a game to coming off the bench for the defending national champs, desperate for playing time, and knowing that the first dumb play she makes will be her last as she immediately gets yanked back to the bench, not knowing if she'll ever get back into the game.
This uncertainty and fear of getting pulled has to be affecting Lou's head and could very well account for her shooting struggles. Lou is obviously an incredibly talented basketball player. I just hope she has the mental toughness to fight her way through.
Mabrey looked really good (until she got a face full of Mo), but it must be incredibly difficult for a kid like Lou to go from being the nation's #1 recruit and scoring 30 points a game to coming off the bench for the defending national champs, desperate for playing time, and knowing that the first dumb play she makes will be her last as she immediately gets yanked back to the bench, not knowing if she'll ever get back into the game.
This uncertainty and fear of getting pulled has to be affecting Lou's head and could very well account for her shooting struggles. Lou is obviously an incredibly talented basketball player. I just hope she has the mental toughness to fight her way through.
So it begins - Stewie is no longer the worst defender on god's green earth, but has passed the torch to the new champion! All hail, Lou!
(he must really like her game and her potential to start riding her this early in the season!)
I love this quote.Mabrey looked really good (until she got a face full of Mo),.
Gabbyfan said:Just think what it would be like if Mo had left last year for the WNBA and both Stewie and Morgan could not play due to injuries.
To your question re lineups - it is a three fold answer:Geno has often said that "if we play our A game, nobody is going to beat us." And we know that he identifies what he believes to be his best starting five, and then he stays with that lineup, barring injury, pretty much through to the tournament. Against DePaul, nobody could have foreseen coach Bruno's unique 5 in/5 out strategy, and the tightness of the game, as I saw it, wasn't a matchup issue but rather one of fatigue and pressure and an opponent's unexpected game plan.
But against ND, I felt it was all about matchups. Geno (and the rest of the free world) knew that Turner would be out and Reimer would be very limited. ND had no choice but to go small, with 4 guards and even a smallish big in Westbeld. They absolutely weren't going to attack in the paint. Geno surely knew their game plan would be to attack from the outside, as DePaul did successfully. And like DePaul, ND shot lights out from the arc, in large part because our perimeter defense was pretty lousy. As were the unfavorable matchups.
So my question - Why must the starting lineup be written in stone? Can't it be tweaked just a bit every once in a while without harming team chemistry or in order to create more favorable matchups for us? I think it can. Even though Morgan had very good numbers against both DePaul and ND, the pace of both games was clearly not to her liking. I suspect that contributed to the unusually high number of 'easy' shots she missed and turnovers she committed. She was exhausted, and she gave up too many points on the other end to quicker, fresher players. Gabby, too. The last two games have been played at a speed neither player seemed too comfortable with. And that caused problems which might have been foreseen and addressed before the tipoff by making adjustments to the starting lineup. Or shortly after ND's rather predictable strategy unfolded. For just one game, would it hurt? Might it help?
You can't argue with Geno's success, but why not look at the other team's starting lineup once in a while and acknowledge that a few changes on our part could be a good thing rather than just say 'we are who we are, you can't beat us.' I love who we are, and while we are always going to score plenty of points, I think one of the greatest strengths of this team is its great defense. Aside from Moriah and Stewie, I thought the defense last night kind of stunk. Obviously, running out the same lineup every game builds familiarity, consistency and teamwork. Geno makes in-game adjustments all the time, but for unique game situations like yesterday, when you know the other team's two best big kids are going to be out, would changing the starting lineup to one that could better defend a 4-guard opponent's obvious outside game strategy be a bad idea?

Fun stat for ND as a whole, but I particularly liked Arike's stats in the same vein:ND had one of the strangest stat lines I've ever seen: 3's 13 of 20 65%, FT's 6 of 10 60%, 2's 10 of 43 41.8% . Overall 31 of 63 49.2%. How do you shoot better on 3's than free throws??
)So, give ND their average shooting % and its now a 25 point loss.However, unlike DePaul's "prayers" and their 29% 3pt shooting coming into the UConn game, most of the ND 3s were in the flow of the offense (Mabrey Jr's step-back in the first half perhaps excepted), close to the 3pt line, with varying degrees of close-out by UConn, shot by a team that was averaging 41% from 3 before this game.
Ok, ok, maybe I was a little harsh, because winning is everything....right? When I made my very first post on the boneyard a few months ago, l felt that team chemistry was Geno's biggest challenge. This team is loaded to the gills with talent and deserves to be referred to as perhaps the best ever team in WBB. However, I think Geno is still struggling with this chemistry thing....yes they have won all their games and have demolished most of their opponents, but Geno's substitution pattern seems to reflect a search for the right combination of players for the various game situations he faces. It is still early in the season, so we should give him some time. Just remember this chemistry issue is going to get even more complicated when Natalie comes into the picture. Natalie's presence in the lineup should alter the offensive schemes as well. So let's wait to see what happens there.
I give Muffet credit for her team's performance . Just think what it would be like if Mo had left last year for the WNBA and both Stewie and Morgan could not play due to injuries.
In the last two games, when opponents have put the "crunch" in "crunch time," it's been Samuelson that's been on the floor. Not only that, but she's contributed significantly to those wins at the end of the game. There's little doubt in my mind that KLS is inching toward a starting role. When or what Butler does are the questions to be answered.... Geno may decide to move KLS into the starting lineup. ...
McGraw said after the game that this year's UConn team is better than last year's.
Guys, this is sounding really VolNation-like. Maybe everyone should take a deep breath...
2. Kia - Anyone ever hear of the sophomore slump? Last year, some unknown came down from Canada and surprised opponents. Besides, back then opponents were worried about Mo and KML, not the freshman (ahem). This year, Kia is a known quantity and opponents are actually targeting her for a lot of attention. Ditto the Energizer Bunny, Gabby. Kia gets more attention because, as a guard, she has the ball in her hands a lot more but also, forwards on the other teams are worried about the kid with the steely gaze and 7'2" wing span.
3. ND shot 65% from the arc. A team shooting, say, 40-45% is considered to be a really good three point shooting team. Again, much credit goes to the Irish for making those shots but, c'mon, it's unrealistic to think that teams are going to do that with any regularity.
4. Geno outcoached the last two games - LOL. Anyone notice a difference between the first and second half of each game? Geno may be the best at in-game adjustments in WBB. How many points did Marina Mabrey have in the second half? 2.
5. Defense - As fans of other teams like to point out, it's still early. Last night was UConn's 6th game and Geno has been giving Lou and Napheesa a lot of playing time. I'm actually pretty impressed with Napheesa's D most games but last night, well, she was a bit over her head. I feel badly for her in the short term but know, because Geno LOOKS for players like this - she's going to be pissed at her D last night and will double her efforts in practice. I predict that kid will have some great games in a UConn uni.
7. (added this one on edit) DePaul and ND - if there are two coaches that know Geno and know how his teams play, it's Doug Bruno and Muffet McGraw. The teams have only played a thousand times and these three good coaches were going at it with guns blazing and the results were entertaining and energetic basketball games - and one more painful reminder that the Big East was the best women's basketball league ever.
How do I know that she is not fibbing?
2. Kia - I hope this is the sophomore slump. I hate to regard the best of provincial basketball as a remembrance of things past.
With Kiah at center last year, Stewie was able cheat off the forwards and help on the perimeter. This year, she's got to stay in the paint while a couple of freshmen help on the perimeter. Give them a little time.3. ND shot 65% from the arc - DePaul also shot very well from long range. It is a legitimate question to ask why we did not defend well. To say that Bruno and Muffet know Geno and his team does not cut it. Our team had no answer to this (strange considering that 4 starters + Chong & Ekmark returned). I hope they will make up for this in practice.
Still trying to figure how people are extrapolating next year's results after only 6 games this season or why anyone would think a Geno Auriemma coached team would look the same in March as it would in December. Curious minds want to know.Before the game yesterday I wanted to know how good our guards are. Not MoJeff. Do we have a Conlon, a Swanier, a Hayes, a Faris or a Montgomery in the making? If MoJeff is injured, do we have the personnel to replace her. And what about next year (I know that Dangerfield and Bent will be here)?
McBride left it on the court, Turner was in street clothes (well warm-ups I think)... lil difference in the reason for emotionsI must admit to being surprised to see Brianna smiling and even laughing on the Irish bench in the last quarter. Kayla McBride would have been through two boxes of tissues by then . . .
How do I know that she is not fibbing?
2. Kia - I hope this is the sophomore slump. I hate to regard the best of provincial basketball as a remembrance of things past.
3. ND shot 65% from the arc - DePaul also shot very well from long range. It is a legitimate question to ask why we did not defend well. To say that Bruno and Muffet know Geno and his team does not cut it. Our team had no answer to this (strange considering that 4 starters + Chong & Ekmark returned). I hope they will make up for this in practice.
Before the game yesterday I wanted to know how good our guards are. Not MoJeff. Do we have a Conlon, a Swanier, a Hayes, a Faris or a Montgomery in the making? If MoJeff is injured, do we have the personnel to replace her. And what about next year (I know that Dangerfield and Bent will be here)?
McBride left it on the court, Turner was in street clothes (well warm-ups I think)... lil difference in the reason for emotions
Who made up that rule?If KLS is going to be great, she has to emulate Stewie. That means rebounding, posting up, blocking shots, and doing all those other things Stewie does besides drain 3s like it's her job. KLS is still in that mindset of being the best player on the court and not having to "get dirty." Stewie learned and so shall KLS if she wants to make a mark on this vaunted WCBB program.
Mabrey looked really good (until she got a face full of Mo), but it must be incredibly difficult for a kid like Lou to go from being the nation's #1 recruit and scoring 30 points a game to coming off the bench for the defending national champs, desperate for playing time, and knowing that the first dumb play she makes will be her last as she immediately gets yanked back to the bench, not knowing if she'll ever get back into the game.
This uncertainty and fear of getting pulled has to be affecting Lou's head and could very well account for her shooting struggles. Lou is obviously an incredibly talented basketball player. I just hope she has the mental toughness to fight her way through.
Mabrey looked really good (until she got a face full of Mo), but it must be incredibly difficult for a kid like Lou to go from being the nation's #1 recruit and scoring 30 points a game to coming off the bench for the defending national champs, desperate for playing time, and knowing that the first dumb play she makes will be her last as she immediately gets yanked back to the bench, not knowing if she'll ever get back into the game.
This uncertainty and fear of getting pulled has to be affecting Lou's head and could very well account for her shooting struggles. Lou is obviously an incredibly talented basketball player. I just hope she has the mental toughness to fight her way through.
Now that is the one statement that you have made on this thread that I agree with! It is a thought-provoking analogy.
Indeed, what if Moriah was gone and Stewie and Tuck were injured, and UConn had to play ND with its full complement of people including Turner and Reimer? What odds would you give on the outcome of that game? If KLS had an amazing game for a freshman and UConn managed to shoot 65% on 3's because of it, making 13 threes, could UConn stay within 10 points of ND in South Bend?
As to how the ND team will react to the loss, I don't think they will say, "Sheesh! We made 13 3's and we still lost??" Instead, I think they will say, "We stayed within 10 points of them on their home floor despite playing without our All-American center and another very good forward. On a neutral court, with both teams at full strength, our chances to win should be very good."
And they would be right about that.
Who made up that rule?
This is NOT true. She stated she knew what it would not be easy as a freshman and did not expect to start. She said she would do whatever it takes to be the kind of player Geno expects her to be. She does not get pulled after making one dumb play. She has a lot to learn and maybe that is affecting the way she is playing but I think the excuses you just made are just that, excuses. Her shots will start falling after more playing experience, imo.
Now that is the one statement that you have made on this thread that I agree with! It is a thought-provoking analogy.
Indeed, what if Moriah was gone and Stewie and Tuck were injured, and UConn had to play ND with its full complement of people including Turner and Reimer? What odds would you give on the outcome of that game? If KLS had an amazing game for a freshman and UConn managed to shoot 65% on 3's because of it, making 13 threes, could UConn stay within 10 points of ND in South Bend?
As to how the ND team will react to the loss, I don't think they will say, "Sheesh! We made 13 3's and we still lost??" Instead, I think they will say, "We stayed within 10 points of them on their home floor despite playing without our All-American center and another very good forward. On a neutral court, with both teams at full strength, our chances to win should be very good."
And they would be right about that.
I think the Uconn coaches are very clear in their communications with the players - in practice, in private meetings, pre-game, in-game, and post-game. I don't think there is a lot of guess work involved for the players in terms of what they did well, what they did not do well, and what the general plan is for each game.Every year it seems we have to hear how Geno is messing / ruining kids with his substitution patters. Just more noise.
I think the Uconn coaches are very clear in their communications with the players - in practice, in private meetings, pre-game, in-game, and post-game. I don't think there is a lot of guess work involved for the players in terms of what they did well, what they did not do well, and what the general plan is for each game.
No sugar coating in this program!
