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Those of you want big time football at UCONN - help me understand why

jonsmith said:
I have been wondering if the AAC falls apart if there could be a movement to 'revive' Big East football. With schools like UConn, UMass, Temple, Buffalo, Army, Navy, maybe Liberty, etc. The southern AAC schools could join with CUSA or Sunbelt.
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It you can string a decent tv deal and cut down on travel costs then I think it would be appealing. I don’t know if Navy and Army would be interested.
 
Doug98 said:
Hasn't everything been tried over the last decade? Exactly what is the goal now that we appear to have reached the bottom of the barrel.
Why not have a discussion on moving down and joining teams like Holy Cross in the Patriot League. Bring the excitement back to UCONN for the fans. We all know what's going on don't we? The program now is designed to generate big money by being a sacrificial lamb to top national programs. The absolute best season for UCONN is to beat a few teams we can beat and get battered by others we never had a chance to beat going in. It's embarrassing and not in the spirit of college athletics.
This weekend there could be a game that UCONN would play against some of our old New England rivals that we could win and that fans would want to go to. Instead we have a game we were never intended to be competitive in where we are over matched with a interim coach and a new young quarterback hoping no one gets really hurt.
Time to get real UCONN nation and say no to being a perpetual sacrificial lamb in football.
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As I said, when the Whale left, I didn't go to Wolfpack games. I had steak, why would I want horsemeat?

Dropping down to FCS is stupid. It should get you banned from the Boneyard. I've been to Memorial watching New Hampshire , Maine and other Yankee League/CAA games and I been to the Rent when we beat Indiana on opening day. I saw some great football there. You think the state will build a 10000 seat stadium for a FCS team? Think alumni want to see Richmond at Rentschler? Sorry, but the thinking of Connecticut's citizens is crazy. We should drop it, it is too hard...

No, if it was easy, every college would be D1. Here, I have a Super Bowl Champions, back to back Stanley Cup champions and a baseball team that might be be the World Series champs. Connecticut doesn't act like they want to be serious in sports. I mean, the Yard Goats and Hartford AC are both the colors of the Whalers? Did Hartford pass a law that pro teams have to use the Whalers colors. (Saw a Tampa Bay Hartford AC game and they are good, not insulting them but why not red white and blue or orange yellow and black?)

Hope someday I hope to see the Whalers back!!
 
Puppy Love said:
Randy’s first go round was like catching lightning in a bottle. A lot of things went very right and not much went wrong. RE was close in time to the Coughlin years at Syracuse and BC and all those connections were very fresh. As a coach, he was on an upward trajectory. Rentschler was new and added to the excitement around the program. Orlovsky decided to stay home and play at UConn when he could have gone a lot of other places. Winning leads to more winning and helps with recruiting. I point this out to say that it will be a lot harder to rebuild than it was to do it the first time. I think the right head coach would help, but it wouldn’t be a quick turnaround. As to whether it would be worth the effort, maybe. I was lucky enough to have a friend back in the day that had some fabulous seats on the 50 yard line. Went to some games. It was a crazy lot of fun. I just wouldn’t want to stay FBS to be permanently mired at the bottom. That would be worse than dropping out.
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Puppy love, sorry but ever been to a game? Baylor against us at Rentschler RG3 quoting that our fans are great. We still are, but some are bandwagon fans that you hoping the bandwagon when it's great, but get when it gets bad. D3? Why not go to the NAIA? We should do great in it!!:p
 
Doug98 said:
Hasn't everything been tried over the last decade? Exactly what is the goal now that we appear to have reached the bottom of the barrel.
Why not have a discussion on moving down and joining teams like Holy Cross in the Patriot League. Bring the excitement back to UCONN for the fans. We all know what's going on don't we? The program now is designed to generate big money by being a sacrificial lamb to top national programs. The absolute best season for UCONN is to beat a few teams we can beat and get battered by others we never had a chance to beat going in. It's embarrassing and not in the spirit of college athletics.
This weekend there could be a game that UCONN would play against some of our old New England rivals that we could win and that fans would want to go to. Instead we have a game we were never intended to be competitive in where we are over matched with a interim coach and a new young quarterback hoping no one gets really hurt.
Time to get real UCONN nation and say no to being a perpetual sacrificial lamb in football.
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Doug 98, Thank you for your interest, but leave now. A sacrificial lamb? Really? Did you say that when we played Cincinnati, UCF, Temple? I'm hoping UConn will beat Perdue, but I hope SK will play great and I hope Clemson will be good, too. Should we play MAC teams? If you want to play with the big boys, you might get bullied, but with a coach who knows what he's doing and being serious about scheduling (DB is giving us some great schools in FB) we will be back in a bowl game. I guess you'll say, I knew he was a great hire!!
 
HuskyDogArt said:
Puppy love, sorry but ever been to a game? Baylor against us at Rentschler RG3 quoting that our fans are great. We still are, but some are bandwagon fans that you hoping the bandwagon when it's great, but get when it gets bad. D3? Why not go to the NAIA? We should do great in it!!:p
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According to @Puppy Love we should be playing town rec basketball because of the fans dressed as an arena full of empty seats in the past decade.
 
amishboy said:
Yeah, this is exactly what the pessimist in me sees ahead!

I just don't have the optimism needed to dream of a dynamic coaching hire, who can concoct brilliant offensive schemes and creative defenses, and/or recruit well enough to uncover the necessary number of underrated players to raise UConn significantly above the bottom.

We had a lot of luck when we were BE co-champions and played in the Fiesta Bowl; maybe we reached our peak then, never to be repeated or topped.
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It happened. Luck or no luck son. Better to be lucky than good.
 
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HuskyDogArt said:
Doug 98, Thank you for your interest, but leave now. A sacrificial lamb? Really? Did you say that when we played Cincinnati, UCF, Temple? I'm hoping UConn will beat Perdue, but I hope SK will play great and I hope Clemson will be good, too. Should we play MAC teams? If you want to play with the big boys, you might get bullied, but with a coach who knows what he's doing and being serious about scheduling (DB is giving us some great schools in FB) we will be back in a bowl game. I guess you'll say, I knew he was a great hire!!
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For all you BB fans remember the pre-Calhoun years when we were at the bottom of the OLD Big East and the Hartford Civic Center games were filled with the fans of visiting teams! So how many of you were saying let’s go back to the Yankee Conference?
I know many that did but there was no Boneyard back then to debate it.
 
HardFacts said:
For all you BB fans remember the pre-Calhoun years when we were at the bottom of the OLD Big East and the Hartford Civic Center games were filled with the fans of visiting teams! So how many of you were saying let’s go back to the Yankee Conference?
I know many that did but there was no Boneyard back then to debate it.
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It’s one whole lot easier to recruit a few good basketball players than a whole football team!
 
DAC17 said:
It’s one whole lot easier to recruit a few good basketball players than a whole football team!
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Why not drop all sports except men's and women's basketball, then. Yes it is easier, but apples and oranges you need 22 starters (11 defense/11 offense) but only 5 starters in basketball! Stupid comment.
 
Tongue firmly planted in cheek

If D3 is good enough for Calhoun.. it should be good enough for UConn basketball. Let's do it.. embrace academics; shut down the athletic department pour that subsidy into academics and we can merge the administration of the department with the Student Life area. Those who want to play sports will even pay tuition.

I can't believe no other major state university has thought to do this!
 
we're not going fcs. period. it doesn't make sense on any level in the media future. i hear that we bought all the fancy cameras, big foam fingers, and all that good stuff. waste not, want not.
didn't it take the sox like a 100 years to win one?
now, that's yankee grit.
try sum. and, while we wait, cookies for everrone!
 
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HuskyDogArt said:
Didn't it take the Sox 100 years to win one?

Now that took some Yankee grit

No, it took Red Sox grit...:D
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look bub, i agree that bahstan is the center of the universe, but try to remember that yankeeland is bigger than just some salted fish and mark wahlberg. here's a map
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we even have a forcefield. how cool is that? lol.
and our own song!
1905_SM_Yankee_Grit_1.jpg
 
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CTrefugee said:
I have been to many DIV III games between top teams in that division. I find them just as exciting as any other game.
Many of the best Div III schools are also ranked among the top academic colleges.
That's just me. Help me understand why you want UCONN to keep pursuing the big time.

Thanks,
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This is not Wesleyan, Tufts or a Div III school but a state university that is one of the top 25 in the country. Staying in FBS is the only way with all that has been put forth into the program the last 22 years or so or since the trailers.
 
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uconnbill said:
This is not Wesleyan, Tufts or a Div III school but a state university that is one of the top 25 in the country. Staying in FCS is the only way with all that has been put forth into the program the last 22 years or so or since the trailers.
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uconnbill said:
If anyone wants UConn to go FBS, then you need to follow another team for football, because it isn't happening.
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Did I wake up in an alternate universe?
 
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NHRich said:
Does this mean we are actually pretty good?
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'pretty good?'
ahhh, definitamundo no.
'good?' err, also negatory.
'alive?' yeppers, cuz it looks like we can unplug the heart paddles.
baby steps.
next up? free micky d's for the first 5000 thru the turnstiles. hey, ya gotta start somewhere.
 
“This is not Wesleyan, Tufts or a Div III school but a state university that is one of the top 25 in the country. Staying in FCS is the only way with all that has been put forth into the program the last 22 years or so or since the trailers.”

”top 25“ in enrollment? Endowment? Research grants?

So because of what’s already been spent, there’s no end to what we should continue to pour into an FBS football program?

No concern that virtually everyone else in the Northeast is, at best, nibbling at the edges of mediocrity?

All we need are a brilliant coach, upgraded facilities, better players, and a strong conference, and we’ll reach the same heights as…? BC? Syracuse? Pitt? Temple? Rutgers?

Maybe those 40,000 seats at Rentschler won’t be enough, and we should start adding another 10,000.
 
amishboy said:
“This is not Wesleyan, Tufts or a Div III school but a state university that is one of the top 25 in the country. Staying in FCS is the only way with all that has been put forth into the program the last 22 years or so or since the trailers.”

”top 25“ in enrollment? Endowment? Research grants?

So because of what’s already been spent, there’s no end to what we should continue to pour into an FBS football program?

No concern that virtually everyone else in the Northeast is, at best, nibbling at the edges of mediocrity?

All we need are a brilliant coach, upgraded facilities, better players, and a strong conference, and we’ll reach the same heights as…? BC? Syracuse? Pitt? Temple? Rutgers?

Maybe those 40,000 seats at Rentschler won’t be enough, and we should start adding another 10,000.
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It’s really just about coaching. We need a great coach. Joe Moorhead would be worth the investment. I think he could make Indy UConn a Top 25 team and put us back on the map.

Our facilities are better than adequate and our name brand is strong. Publicity will be easy to come by when we start winning. That’s why bashing us is so much fun for the media. The football program may not be relevant right now, but the school and overall athletic department are prominent.
 
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amishboy said:
“This is not Wesleyan, Tufts or a Div III school but a state university that is one of the top 25 in the country. Staying in FCS is the only way with all that has been put forth into the program the last 22 years or so or since the trailers.”

”top 25“ in enrollment? Endowment? Research grants?

So because of what’s already been spent, there’s no end to what we should continue to pour into an FBS football program?

No concern that virtually everyone else in the Northeast is, at best, nibbling at the edges of mediocrity?

All we need are a brilliant coach, upgraded facilities, better players, and a strong conference, and we’ll reach the same heights as…? BC? Syracuse? Pitt? Temple? Rutgers?

Maybe those 40,000 seats at Rentschler won’t be enough, and we should start adding another 10,000.
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You lose money in the lower FCS and at least here UConn can play the Purdue's, Clemson's, NCST's and others. Going back to playing Maine, Rhode Island, and Albany is not my idea of fun or something the university should do
 
You probably lose even more money in all but the very top of FBS:

“In fact, only the programs at the very top of the FBS subdivision generate more money from athletics than they spend. Fewer than one in four of the 97 public FBS athletic departments generated more money than they spent in any given year between 2005 and 2010 (and almost none of the remaining Division I programs were profitable). Even so, about two thirds of these profitable FBS departments still received athletic subsidies in 2010. While it is true that the traditional money-generating sports are more likely to cover their own expenses, more than 40 percent of FBS football and men’s basketball programs were unable to fully support their own programs in 2010; in the remaining Division I schools, only a handful of these programs were self-supporting.”


 
amishboy said:
You probably lose even more money in all but the very top of FBS:

“In fact, only the programs at the very top of the FBS subdivision generate more money from athletics than they spend. Fewer than one in four of the 97 public FBS athletic departments generated more money than they spent in any given year between 2005 and 2010 (and almost none of the remaining Division I programs were profitable). Even so, about two thirds of these profitable FBS departments still received athletic subsidies in 2010. While it is true that the traditional money-generating sports are more likely to cover their own expenses, more than 40 percent of FBS football and men’s basketball programs were unable to fully support their own programs in 2010; in the remaining Division I schools, only a handful of these programs were self-supporting.”


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Then go follow another team. Sorry but the university should not downgrade because of a few fans like yourself. They need to get better and start winning. That would solve so many things. You must not have been around in the 2002-2011 time.
 
uconnbill said:
Then go follow another team. Sorry but the university should not downgrade because of a few fans like yourself. They need to get better and start winning. That would solve so many things. You must not have been around in the 2002-2011 time.
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We never consistently filled Memorial Stadium and when discussions were on to make the move to FBS I personally
never thought we would fill the RENT as quickly as we did!
A descent home schedule and a exciting team competitive team will bring that back! The negativity on the boneyard is absolutely
incredible!
 
HardFacts said:
We never consistently filled Memorial Stadium and when discussions were on to make the move to FBS I personally
never thought we would fill the RENT as quickly as we did!
A descent home schedule and a exciting team competitive team will bring that back! The negativity on the boneyard is absolutely
incredible!
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FYI Women's Basketball had one winning season in it’s first twelve years! Geno was 4-8 in his first year in the Big East!
it took him 5 years to win the conference and make the NCAA
tournament.
 
ClifSpliffy said:
look bub, i agree that bahstan is the center of the universe, but try to remember that yankeeland is bigger than just some salted fish and mark wahlberg. here's a map
main-qimg-f697d6b93249ec10b2bd282921087748

we even have a forcefield. how cool is that? lol.
and our own song!
1905_SM_Yankee_Grit_1.jpg
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What is a whalberg ?
 
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