This is what UConn football has become?

[jbdphi]

Just absolutely pathetic. This has to be another of too many low points. PP is tired and old and has to go. Warde Manuel from the powerhouse Buffalo ain't the key to bringing us to the next level and is another half ass hire along with the other clown over her head, Herbst. UConn is just not serious about this program and it shows. Small thinkers, hiring small people, accepting mediocrity. Totally sick of this crap.

I'd like to highlight this post as being almost the perfect combination of arrogance and ignorance. We have a Head Coach, a AD and a President but of course we were destined for greatness if we had only followed your plan for success. Well done sir. You are the winner.

 

[alexrgct]

Gus Malzahn? My only concern about him is how well our defense would hold up under him. Defense is a tradition of ours.

That and his wife is batsh!t crazy.

 

[UConnDan97]

Well you necessarily don't need the best recruits, but decent recruiting will do wonders with great coaching. Calhoun did it in basketball from 1986-2012.

Right. So again, I'm going to ask you the question I asked before, which is, "What recruits do you think we missed on that we should have landed?" Because your post is suggesting that we don't have the talent in the clubhouse currently to beat Western Michigan. I don't happen to believe that, personally, so I'd just like to hear who you think we should have had instead.

 

[UConnDan97]

By the way, Calhoun did it with players like Phil Gamble, Cliff Robinson, Tate George, etc. It wasn't even until Chris Smith that we landed a recruit that was coveted by other big squads (he chose to stay home in CT), and we had already won the NIT by then. In fact, if you really want to look at it fairly, Donyell Marshall was probably our first true big-time recruit, and that was 6 years after Calhoun took the job!!

 

[huskysupporter]

Are you serious??? We have plenty of talent here... Do you know anything about football? every post you write seems like you lack football IQ... The coaches job is to utilize the talent and put them in the position to execute... DeLeone hasn't done that...

The O-Line is talented, but DeLeone system is to complex for the O-Line

Look at ULM we have better talent than them, but there coach has put them in a position to execute... They did pretty good against SEC teams and Baylor with ok talent

No, I know nothing about football. Read my posts, I am clueless. I am actually a big cricket fan. But the cricket boards aren't really interesting, so I come to this board to post about a sport I know nothing about. I just found out yesterday that there are 3 point scores in this game. When did that happen? Field goals? Interesting stuff.

You obviously know a ton about football. Probably the most intelligent poster on this board. My new plan is just to read your posts so that I can catch up on this new, wonderful sport. You seem to have a realistic view of this team, and your suggestions for benching and promotions should be pinned to the top of the board. Many would say suggesting a freshman all american running back get less playing time would be crazy talk, but I am going with you there. Oh, and wanting a coach who is currently 0-3 for a Conference USA team? Some might think that is odd. Me? Smartest thing I have read on the internet.

I promise you, I will think long and hard before I offer my opinions on what I see on the field and in the offseason. I don't want anyone here to be turned off by my woeful lack of understanding of the game.

 

[CTBasketball]

By the way, Calhoun did it with players like Phil Gamble, Cliff Robinson, Tate George, etc. It wasn't even until Chris Smith that we landed a recruit that was coveted by other big squads (he chose to stay home in CT), and we had already won the NIT by then. In fact, if you really want to look at it fairly, Donyell Marshall was probably our first true big-time recruit, and that was 6 years after Calhoun took the job!!

Robinson was already at UConn when Calhoun took the job. But still, Calhoun won the NIT in his 2nd year on the job. He had some good players, yes, but not spectacular (you could debate Cliff). I just don't see PP doing that in football. He doesn't seem to have a connection with his players and he obviously is having trouble moving the ball on offense.

But we can't compare Calhoun to PP. It's like comparing a hot, fresh apple pie to a stale Hostess pastry.

 

[uchusky32]

HCPP couldn't win at cuse but recruited well. Why would Hathaway believe he could coach now. We hired a coach who should be collecting Social Security. I say that understanding coach Calhoun is old but we didn't hire him when he was old. When we hired him did we think he was going to be our coach for the next 10 years.

We have a big problem. We need to get into a major conference. But all this realignment is based off of football. We have no history of big time football and i say that having played 84-88. We suck right now so not even showing we belong today.

We have to show we have the will to be a BCS program. Paying a quality coach what he is worth is what we must do. We went the route of PP because we could get him for the cheap. We didn't want to pay. The administration must show that they will do what it takes to be a decent program worthy of major conference affiliation. That starts with hiring a coach that can coach and recruit and you must pay to get one.

 

[CTBasketball]

HCPP couldn't win at cuse but recruited well. Why would Hathaway believe he could coach now. We hired a coach who should be collecting Social Security. I say that understanding coach Calhoun is old but we didn't hire him when he was old. When we hired him did we think he was going to be our coach for the next 10 years.

We have a big problem. We need to get into a major conference. But all this realignment is based off of football. We have no history of big time football and i say that having played 84-88. We suck right now so not even showing we belong today.

We have to show we have the will to be a BCS program. Paying a quality coach what he is worth is what we must do. We went the route of PP because we could get him for the cheap. We didn't want to pay. The administration must show that they will do what it takes to be a decent program worthy of major conference affiliation. That starts with hiring a coach that can coach and recruit and you must pay to get one.

Amen.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Name them... (and please don't start w/ Mike Leach and R-Rod as they were too radioactive @ the time). Remember the time frame we are talking about.

Precisely why we may have had a chance. Unless,odd course, you're not into winning.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

HCPP couldn't win at cuse but recruited well. Why would Hathaway believe he could coach now. We hired a coach who should be collecting Social Security. I say that understanding coach Calhoun is old but we didn't hire him when he was old. When we hired him did we think he was going to be our coach for the next 10 years.

We have a big problem. We need to get into a major conference. But all this realignment is based off of football. We have no history of big time football and i say that having played
84-88. We suck right now so not even showing we belong today.

We have to show we have the will to be a BCS program. Paying a quality coach what he is worth is what we must do. We went the route of PP because we could get him for the cheap. We didn't want to pay. The administration must show that they will do what it takes to be a decent program worthy of major conference affiliation. That starts with hiring a coach that can coach and recruit and you must pay to get one.

That is an absolutely astute post. Either we act big time or go back to the CAA.

 

[UConnDan97]

But we can't compare Calhoun to PP.

So then why did you??? And for the record, I'm well aware that Cliff was there. I said Calhoun "did it" with those players...

 

[UConnDan97]

HCPP couldn't win at cuse but recruited well.

I think some of the Boneyarders have lost their minds now. I know that was a maddening loss, but let's get real for a second here! The man couldn't win at cuse??? He is the winningest coach in Big East history, and the vast majority of those wins were at cuse!!!

1991 - 10-2 Won Hall of Fame
1992 - 10-2 Won Fiesta
1993 - 6-4-1
1994 - 7-4
1995 - 9-3 Won Gator
1996 - 9-3 Won Liberty
1997 - 9-4 Lost Fiesta
1998 - 8-4 Lost Orange
1999 - 7-5 Won Music City
2000 - 6-5
2001 - 10-3 Won Insight
2002 - 4-8
2003 - 6-6
2004 - 6-6 Lost Champs

Total 107-59-1

And to think that someon said "Amen" to your comment means that the loss today has sent multiple Boneyarders haywire...

 

[Duncan Idaho]

P finished in the polls half the time he was there. Even sdhusky would take that.

 

[uconnflyer88]

I wonder what people are going to say when we finish the year 10 - 2.....I can't wait, it is going to be hilarious

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Butchy said: ↑
Gus Malzahn? My only concern about him is how well our defense would hold up under him. Defense is a tradition of ours.

Maybe winning should be a tradition of ours.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Your like somebody that only goes outdoors when it raining, then complains about the weather.

 

[uchusky32]

I think some of the Boneyarders have lost their minds now. I know that was a maddening loss, but let's get real for a second here! The man couldn't win at cuse??? He is the winningest coach in Big East history, and the vast majority of those wins were at cuse!!!

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1992 Syracuse 10–2 6–1 ‡ W Fiesta

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1993 Syracuse 6–4–1 3–4 5th

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1994 Syracuse 7–4 4–3 T–3rd

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1995 Syracuse 9–3 5–2 3rd W Gator

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1996 Syracuse 9–3 6–1 T–1st W Liberty

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1997 Syracuse 9–4 6–1 1st L Fiesta

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1998 Syracuse 8–4 6–1 1st L Orange†

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1999 Syracuse 7–5 3–4 T–3rd W Music City

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2000 Syracuse 6–5 4–3 T–3rd

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2001 Syracuse 10–3 6–1 2nd W Insight.com

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2002 Syracuse 4–8 2–5 T–6th

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2003 Syracuse 6–6 2–5 T–6th

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2004 Syracuse 6–6 4–2 T–1st L Champs Sports

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107–59–1 73–34 ‡ The Big East did not begin full round–robin play until 1993

And to think that someon said "Amen" to your comment means that the loss today has sent multiple Boneyarders haywire...

Obviously your right about the win and losses. My point is we hired a guy on the downside of his career. 2002 to now his record is what? Do you think he will be coaching 3 years from now?

 

[UConnDan97]

Obviously your right about the win and losses. My point is we hired a guy on the downside of his career. 2002 to now his record is what? Do you think he will be coaching 3 years from now?

Yeah, he was so far on the downside of his career that he was being asked to coach by the Cowboys and the Dolphins. This guy must suck!!!

As for whether or not he's coaching in three years at UConn, I would say that if he doesn't go 9-3 or better, he's going to be in trouble based on the way this fanbase behaves...

 

[ruskin]

I wonder what people are going to say when we finish the year 10 - 2.....I can't wait, it is going to be hilarious

First, Flyer, thank you very much for your service. Second, if we win 9 in a row and end up in a decent bowl I will happily pick up a REASONABLE one-night bar tab. Don't see us winning 4 BE road games w/this coaching staff.

 

[uchusky32]

Yeah, he was so far on the downside of his career that he was being asked to coach by the Cowboys and the Dolphins. This guy must suck!!!

As for whether or not he's coaching in three years at UConn, I would say that if he doesn't go 9-3 or better, he's going to be in trouble based on the way this fanbase behaves...

Guys he's right. There's no problem. We have them right were we want them. Underestimating us. We will sneak up on them. We will run the wildcat and run to fool them. Look what our offense can do against WMU. We should put up at least 24 against everyone else. Hell WMU is better than everyone left on our schedule. I can sleep soundly knowing that next week we will be a different team. We will run the table and represent the big east.

 

[uchusky32]

Hip
Hip
haray for HCPP!

 

[whaler11]

Yeah, he was so far on the downside of his career that he was being asked to coach by the Cowboys and the Dolphins. This guy must suck!!!

As for whether or not he's coaching in three years at UConn, I would say that if he doesn't go 9-3 or better, he's going to be in trouble based on the way this fanbase behaves...

The Dolphins also asked him to leave. I imagine more politely than this board would ask right now... but he did get canned.

The Cowboys had him coaching tight ends then linebackers. He was interim defensive coordinator for a 6-10 team in 2010.

I'm not quite sure what in that means he can be a head coach in a BCS conference in 2012 - but people seem to think it matters?

 

[UConnDan97]

Guys he's right. There's no problem. We have them right were we want them. Underestimating us. We will sneak up on them. We will run the wildcat and run to fool them. Look what our offense can do against WMU. We should put up at least 24 against everyone else. Hell WMU is better than everyone left on our schedule. I can sleep soundly knowing that next week we will be a different team. We will run the table and represent the big east.

You will never find a bigger opponent of the wildcat than I am. It is a ridiculous play and breaks the rhythym of the starting QB and OLine. But look what the coaching staff finally figured out late in the third quarter? To give the damned thing up! And finally, our offense looked competent again. Let's hope that Coach P has learned his lesson, even if DeLeone didn't, and we don't see the wildcat very much any more. With our defense being capable of what I know they are capable of (which they didn't show today, let's be honest), and with the offense being capable of what I know they are capable of (which they only started to show in the last two quarters today), then I think we are going to go to a bowl game.

How's this; if we don't go bowling this year, feel free to mock me as much as you want. Cool?

 

[BlueDogs]

I'd like to highlight this post as being almost the perfect combination of arrogance and ignorance. We have a ****ty Head Coach, a ****ty AD and a ****ty President but of course we were destined for greatness if we had only followed your plan for success. Well done sir. You are the winner.

Great point, except that the facts speak otherwise in spades. Herbst as been schooled ten times over, lacks command and the leadership to solve a fundamental issue. A basic understanding of finance and investment likely solves the conference problem, but requires some vision and leadership- none of which Herbst has. Hiring Warde Manuel was pathetic. Big talker out of Buffalo. Has no juice and brings nothing to the table. You don't hire down. You hire up and pay up.

This program is going nowhere and for good reason. There is no burning commitment to excellence. Just lip service.

 

[UConnDan97]

The Dolphins also asked him to leave. I imagine more politely than this board would ask right now... but he did get canned.

The other poster was asking about Pasqualoni after 2002. Clearly the Dolphins hired him after 2002.

 

[whaler11]

Great point, except that the facts speak otherwise in spades. Herbst as been schooled ten times over, lacks command and the leadership to solve a fundamental issue. A basic understanding of finance and investment likely solves the conference problem, but requires some vision and leadership- none of which Herbst has. Hiring Warde Manuel was pathetic. Big talker out of Buffalo. Has no juice and brings nothing to the table. You don't hire down. You hire up and pay up.

This program is going nowhere and for good reason. There is no burning commitment to excellence. Just lip service.

I get that PP shouldn't be coaching this team, I was on that bandwagon from Day 1. I'm not quite sure how anyone could have decided that Manuel is a bad hire yet - because the coach the last guy hired sucks?

 

[whaler11]

How's this; if we don't go bowling this year, feel free to mock me as much as you want. Cool?

If the standard is going bowling, when you can win 6 games by beating UMass, Maryland, Buffalo, Temple and Syracuse and winning 1 other game out of 7... that's a pretty low standard.

 

[BlueDogs]

Yeah, he was so far on the downside of his career that he was being asked to coach by the Cowboys and the Dolphins. This guy must suck!!!

As for whether or not he's coaching in three years at UConn, I would say that if he doesn't go 9-3 or better, he's going to be in trouble based on the way this fanbase behaves...

Don't blame fans for a complete debacle, and don't expect unwavering support in the face of at best long term mediocrity. I'd you can beat MAC teams, you're going nowhere. This was an absolute disgrace.

 

[UConnDan97]

If the standard is going bowling, when you can win 6 games by beating UMass, Maryland, Buffalo, Temple and Syracuse and winning 1 other game out of 7... that's a pretty low standard.

I didn't say they would end up 6-6. I said they were going bowling. Would anyone on the board be shocked if they went 8-4 from here? In fact, I remember many on the board predicting that before we ever played a down this year.

 

[UConnDan97]

Don't blame fans for a complete debacle, and don't expect unwavering support in the face of at best long term mediocrity. I'd you can beat MAC teams, you're going nowhere. This was an absolute disgrace.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. I suck, UConn sucks, Warde Manuel sucks, Susan Herbst sucks, Pasqualoni sucks, and Connecticut sucks. Thanks...