If true, and Memphis and Cincinnati are off to the B12, this could open up a spot in the AAC for Umass.
If Umass is added, it becomes an annual AAC game, and it would be good for both schools as well as good for New England College football too.
Umass football is in its infancy in attempting to move up the college pecking order, and it needs a local rival in football. BC won't ( or can't) fill that role. But Umass could. As a Massachusetts , born and raised, sports fan, I'd like to see these 2 N.E. Public schools in the same football league and playing each other each fall. Its better than watching BC- Wake Forest anyway. So this COULD be good news for those that would like to see a New England College Football rivalry perhaps take form now.. An annual Umass- Uconn football game is WAY better and potentially far more attractive in the future moving forward than an annual Uconn- SMU, or Uconn- Tulane football game, imo.
Get out of my face with this steaming pile of silver lined bullsht.If true, and Memphis and Cincinnati are off to the B12, this could open up a spot in the AAC for Umass.
If Umass is added, it becomes an annual AAC game, and it would be good for both schools as well as good for New England College football too.
Umass football is in its infancy in attempting to move up the college pecking order, and it needs a local rival in football. BC won't ( or can't) fill that role. But Umass could. As a Massachusetts , born and raised, sports fan, I'd like to see these 2 N.E. Public schools in the same football league and playing each other each fall. Its better than watching BC- Wake Forest anyway. So this COULD be good news for those that would like to see a New England College Football rivalry perhaps take form now.. An annual Umass- Uconn football game is WAY better and potentially far more attractive in the future moving forward than an annual Uconn- SMU, or Uconn- Tulane football game, imo.
Are you implying that Memphis Football is competent and UCONN Football is not? If so, then you must believe one or two years defines a program.It is an interesting rumor - it would surprise me, but not completely shock me. It's at least in the plausible category (unlike those old rumors of the Big 12 going after Florida State). The threshold question for me is whether the Big 12 wants to expand at all in the first place.
To be sure, football still does matter here. You have to look at the whole football-related picture just like Rutgers. Rutgers certainly doesn't have a great on-the-field football history. However, the state of New Jersey was the largest non-Sun Belt/Southern football recruiting base (which, along with TV markets, is what commissioners like Jim Delany is really referring to when they talk about "demographics") that wasn't already in the Big Ten. #2 on that list was the state of Maryland. Those certainly weren't the ONLY factors involved (as the TV markets were the number one consideration for the B1G), but they were big ones that university presidents and ADs have actually been very open about. So, it was still a football-driven expansion for the Big Ten even if marquee football programs weren't necessarily added.
In the same vein, the Memphis area is also one of the strongest per capita football recruiting regions in the country. In fact, both Memphis and Cincinnati would instantly be the two best football recruiting areas in the Big 12 outside of the state of Texas.
At the same time, Memphis has shown to be at least football *competent* this year. Any school with a great hoops fan base (which includes UConn, Memphis, UNLV, New Mexico, San Diego State, etc.) combined with competent football becomes more intriguing in conference realignment. The football program just can't be down in the dumps horrific or else even the greatest basketball in the world can't compensate for that. Too many schools that I've listed above have the great hoops fan base, but not the competent football.
If true, and Memphis and Cincinnati are off to the B12, this could open up a spot in the AAC for Umass.
If Umass is added, it becomes an annual AAC game, and it would be good for both schools as well as good for New England College football too.
How does this benefit us? All it does is force the AAC to add 2 more schools to get back to 12.
I agree with PJ that it's unlikely the B12 would go past 12 & if they did it is doubtful UConn is on the list.
Get ready for Aresco to announce Umass & ODU joining the AAC
I will probably pick up voodoo and spend my days needling at Swofford and every BC alumni/administrator I can individually identify.
If true, and Memphis and Cincinnati are off to the B12, this could open up a spot in the AAC for Umass.
If Umass is added, it becomes an annual AAC game, and it would be good for both schools as well as good for New England College football too.
Umass football is in its infancy in attempting to move up the college pecking order, and it needs a local rival in football. BC won't ( or can't) fill that role. But Umass could. As a Massachusetts , born and raised, sports fan, I'd like to see these 2 N.E. Public schools in the same football league and playing each other each fall. Its better than watching BC- Wake Forest anyway. So this COULD be good news for those that would like to see a New England College Football rivalry perhaps take form now.. An annual Umass- Uconn football game is WAY better and potentially far more attractive in the future moving forward than an annual Uconn- SMU, or Uconn- Tulane football game, imo.
It is an interesting rumor - it would surprise me, but not completely shock me. It's at least in the plausible category (unlike those old rumors of the Big 12 going after Florida State). The threshold question for me is whether the Big 12 wants to expand at all in the first place.
To be sure, football still does matter here. You have to look at the whole football-related picture just like Rutgers. Rutgers certainly doesn't have a great on-the-field football history. However, the state of New Jersey was the largest non-Sun Belt/Southern football recruiting base (which, along with TV markets, is what commissioners like Jim Delany is really referring to when they talk about "demographics") that wasn't already in the Big Ten. #2 on that list was the state of Maryland. Those certainly weren't the ONLY factors involved (as the TV markets were the number one consideration for the B1G), but they were big ones that university presidents and ADs have actually been very open about. So, it was still a football-driven expansion for the Big Ten even if marquee football programs weren't necessarily added.
In the same vein, the Memphis area is also one of the strongest per capita football recruiting regions in the country. In fact, both Memphis and Cincinnati would instantly be the two best football recruiting areas in the Big 12 outside of the state of Texas.
At the same time, Memphis has shown to be at least football *competent* this year. Any school with a great hoops fan base (which includes UConn, Memphis, UNLV, New Mexico, San Diego State, etc.) combined with competent football becomes more intriguing in conference realignment. The football program just can't be down in the dumps horrific or else even the greatest basketball in the world can't compensate for that. Too many schools that I've listed above have the great hoops fan base, but not the competent football.
If true, and Memphis and Cincinnati are off to the B12, this could open up a spot in the AAC for Umass.
If Umass is added, it becomes an annual AAC game, and it would be good for both schools as well as good for New England College football too.
Umass football is in its infancy in attempting to move up the college pecking order, and it needs a local rival in football. BC won't ( or can't) fill that role. But Umass could. As a Massachusetts , born and raised, sports fan, I'd like to see these 2 N.E. Public schools in the same football league and playing each other each fall. Its better than watching BC- Wake Forest anyway. So this COULD be good news for those that would like to see a New England College Football rivalry perhaps take form now.. An annual Umass- Uconn football game is WAY better and potentially far more attractive in the future moving forward than an annual Uconn- SMU, or Uconn- Tulane football game, imo.
Don't hold your breath, because you won't get anything other than "stay the course" / "monitoring the situation" type comments - the chances UConn will could receive a BXII invite are close to zero. And that would still be true even if we cloned twenty Tom Jurich's and had them all running the UConn AD, board of trustees, president's office and got them elected as CT's governor and lieutenant governor. Our only hope to get in that conference would be a big expansion going for the East Coast with Temple/Cincy/ECU, which I would put at 0.01%.If this gains more traction and end of March Madness is expected announcement date, it gives Warden and Susan plenty of time to show they can be competent. Whether it's getting us in some P5 or leapfrog Memphis like Louisville did to us 2 years ago, the clock will be ticking. Any stay the course comments are failures in my book.
Will wait to see if this gains any more legs before truly worrying anymore.
All the FedEx money in the world couldn't get Memphis into the BE until it went up in flames, it won't make a difference to the B12.Why are people saying that FedEx is backing the Memphis move? If that's the case do we have any backers to help get us out of this godforsaken conference? Or is Burton it? From what I understand JC's son is president of converse (sub of Nike). Why can't we have nice things!
In addition, and if true, could this move open up a new series of realignment? Thoughts?
I believe the four bell cows are Cincinnati, Houston, Temple, and UConn.If this happens ESPN probably also comes back to renegotiate the AAC's crappy contract downward to make it even crappier. My recollection is that there are four "bell cow?" schools designated in the contract and if one or more leaves the conference, ESPN will come back in to add insult to injury. Cincy was one (along with us). I don't remember the others. Good times!
Look I hear ya but being picked over for Memphis....a school that never got a shot in a BCS conference like Cincy or Louisville did to pump up it's image and such is a real shot in the heart. It truly makes it painful to be a UConn fan and have any hope that this would ever change. Plus, you're now looking at basically playing in C-USA. So you're sports teams have gone from being in the PREMIER bball conference and a BCS football conference to a conference that is a complete joke and worse off than C-USA was when we were still playing in the BE. Sorry but it's hard to swallow this one if true.And to all the UConn fans who suddenly turn into nelsonmuntz at the drop of a rumor. MAN THE duck* UP. Did all the positive arguments for UConn being a P5 school suddenly evaporate? Did our gains in fundraising suddenly turn out to be worthless like a pile of of hedge fund derivatives? HELL NO. Our leadership will fight (behind the scenes) on as long as they can. Who knows, maybe that's only ten years or but the minute we give up, we've closed the door on being a big boy school. Perhaps the door is only open a crack right now and hope is fading we can keep it open. But we have to try.
Utah had little beyond "one or two years" (Urban Meyer) before their Pac-12 invitation from my perspective/recollection. To lesser degrees, "great improvement recently" also helped TCU, Louisville, and Rutgers.Are you implying that Memphis Football is competent and UCONN Football is not? If so, then you must believe one or two years defines a program.
The AAC is a subpar league. That was true in 2012, it's true now and it'll be true in 2018+. Look, UConn was going to have to hold out for at least ~2020 for an ACC/B1G invite anyway. Those are the only P5 possibilities. Maybe in ten years the AAC will be untenable. But you have to put off that decision as long as possible.Look I hear ya but being picked over for Memphis....a school that never got a shot in a BCS conference like Cincy or Louisville did to pump up it's image and such is a real shot in the heart. It truly makes it painful to be a UConn fan and have any hope that this would ever change. Plus, you're now looking at basically playing in C-USA. So you're sports teams have gone from being in the PREMIER bball conference and a BCS football conference to a conference that is a complete joke and worse off than C-USA was when we were still playing in the BE. Sorry but it's hard to swallow this one if true.
While its true that " 1 or 2 years ( of success ) should never define a football program", I don't understand the hostility to the thought that Umass could not be a good replacement for the AAC if Memphis and Cincinnati left the ACC.Are you implying that Memphis Football is competent and UCONN Football is not? If so, then you must believe one or two years defines a program.