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This might sound ridiculous but if we're going to move it we should do it live from the campus of ESPN. They have our TV contract and I don't know the details of it but I'd love for us to in the next contract negotiate some sort of deal for our media days that ensures a live broadcast of it on ESPNU. We agree to do it from the ESPN studios, our coaches are already on campus so we get them in to do a "carwash" type deal that the other conferences are doing, and we get more exposure for not only UConn but for the conference itself.

This is the kind of thinking we have to do (outside the box type thinking) in order to maintain relevancy. Relevancy has many components, and even though we won't make 40 million+ per team we can be creative in how we get games on TV and contracts going and things like that.


Edit: The AAC could even continue to do the first day in Newport and just do the media portion from ESPN in Bristol the following day.
 
whaler11 said:
No they wouldn't. The same media that goes to Newport would just go to NYC.

The vast majority of the national media isn't sitting in NYC waiting to cover whoever rolls into town. They are all over the country and travel to where the stories are. If you are a college football writer the last place you'd live is NYC. There is nothing college football related happening there.
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So, in your opinion, events in Newport are covered exactly the same amount as events in NYC? Do I have that right? I don't think that is supportable.

The reason is because reporters have to go to Newport to cover an event. If you hold a large event in NYC, you can spread your folks out, visit all kinds of TV and radio shows that don't exist in Newport? This includes both local and national shows. You can do the kind of outreach not available in Newport. You can "work" the city. You can talk to many times the number of reporters that go to Newport. You can produce multiples of earned media you could attract in Newport.

I'm sure any public relations professional in the city would back up my position. In fact, I can't imagine why anyone would argue with this obvious truth.

As to my contention that Texas would be a better venue. The event would be something new in Texas. Just its novelty would make it a bigger story.

Finally, the B-B-Q in Memphis is very good. I like the dry rub at Corky's but there are many excellent choices.
 
There is entirely way too much energy being put into a thread about where a friggin' media day should be located. We are in the AAC for now. They could hold it in the International Space Station and it wouldn't create any buzz about the conference.
 
Palatine said:
So, in your opinion, events in Newport are covered exactly the same amount as events in NYC? Do I have that right? I don't think that is supportable.

The reason is because reporters have to go to Newport to cover an event. If you hold a large event in NYC, you can spread your folks out, visit all kinds of TV and radio shows that don't exist in Newport? This includes both local and national shows. You can do the kind of outreach not available in Newport. You can "work" the city. You can talk to many times the number of reporters that go to Newport. You can produce multiples of earned media you could attract in Newport.

I'm sure any public relations professional in the city would back up my position. In fact, I can't imagine why anyone would argue with this obvious truth.

As to my contention that Texas would be a better venue. The event would be something new in Texas. Just its novelty would make it a bigger story.

Finally, the B-B-Q in Memphis is very good. I like the dry rub at Corky's but there are many excellent choices.
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Honestly I think more media want to go to Newport than the city. People leave the city in the summer to go places like Newport.

The AAC media days are the AAC media days no matter where they are held. The amount of national interest in the league doesn't change because of where the event is held.

Texas sucks in the summer. The novelty would wear off instantly.

This might be news to you but you can do any show from anywhere in the country. The bigger issue is that national shows have no interest in talking about AAC football. This might come as a surprise to you but only the fans of the individual programs give a damn about it.

If they held CUSA media day in Washington would you pay any attention? Of course not.
 
whaler11 said:
Honestly I think more media want to go to Newport than the city. People leave the city in the summer to go places like Newport.

The AAC media days are the AAC media days no matter where they are held. The amount of national interest in the league doesn't change because of where the event is held.

Texas sucks in the summer. The novelty would wear off instantly.
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It's not a question of where people want to go. It may very well be true that folks prefer to go to Newport.

The question is where can you drum up the most coverage. This event needs to worked. It becomes more important if you are non-entity like the AAC. You need to fish where the fish are. You need to be smart. To make a splash. You need to find news hooks. You need to create stories, to do things that are newsworthy. Put a football field in Times Square. Hold a press conference on top of the Empire State Building. Make people notice you. There a a thousand more opportunities to make contact with media entities than in Newport.

The only media in Newport are the ones who choose to come along. They will go anywhere the event is held.
 
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Regarding Texas for a media event, When George W was president, the media hated it when they had to follow him to his ranch. The media loved George H.W. when he vacationed in Kennebunkport. They also loved Clinton & Obama as they vacation in Martha's Vineyard.
It's summertime. The media loves vacation spots. Newport is ideal, even though Rogues Island sucks the other 10 months of the year.
 
This is Palatine.

Palatine said:
Why the heck is the media day stuck in that media backwater? It shouldn't have been there in the BE days. To put it there for the AAC is freaking ridiculous.
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He is in a "media" related field. But ... I come back to watching this for 15 years: the MEDIA love Newport. They do. You get people going to the Big East Media Day because its in Newport & they like the lobster/clams. They like playing dinky golf & the atmosphere with these coaches.

I expect the "American" changes this ... but I think it makes sense to run these "Contra" Media events. Everyone of the others does a Florida thing (except the Chicago or SF). Newport has contrast and it sets the table. (as best as it could be)
 
I'd love a list of specific media members who would cover NYC but not Newport. This should be good.
 
On second thought, if we had it in Memphis we could read tweets from Ed D and John Silver complaining about the heat. That might be entertaining.
 
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The media has options in Newport that they can't get elsewhere; Tennis Hall of Fame (is Pat Summerrall enshrined?), polo matches, hob nobbing with vacationing yacht moguls. (They've also been brainwashed to think that the America's Cup is still put on off the Newport coastline).

I Kid, I Kid: Newport is a very accommodating vacation spot as others have mentioned. The media love it, especially those from other areas of the country. I don't mind it as a getaway destination. The Providence Conference headquarters, however, are another story. It screams minor league, & I'm beyond disbelief that the Conference
honchos & the member administrators can't or won't grasp that concept. Oh, wait.
 
Pudge said:
Tuberville is narrow-minded workaholic. (and like Palatine) He misses the bigger picture. Having continuity works ... at least at this moment. I can't imagine this being better in Memphis - yuck.
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Or Cinncinati
 
Let's do it in Saratoga ...

Add betting on horses to the lobsters, clams, golf, music.
 
I don't think out matters all that much from the exposure perspective. My issue with it is different. Why contribute to RI economy when their no longer is a member institution there? Rent out Harkness state park for the day. Do your clambake on the lawn and do the media portions in the mansion. Move the offices down to Bristol or buy space near the planned Rockcats ballpark. I'd rather see that money go to Connecticut. Still keeps our Northeast roots and had better access to the media centers in Bristol or NYC.
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that everyone suggesting Norwalk, Hartford, or Waterford has never worked in marketing or event planning.
 
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CL82 said:
I don't think out matters all that much from the exposure perspective. My issue with it is different. Why contribute to RI economy when their no longer is a member institution there? Rent out Harkness state park for the day. Do your clambake on the lawn and do the media portions in the mansion. Move the offices down to Bristol or buy space near the planned Rockcats ballpark. I'd rather see that money go to Connecticut. Still keeps our Northeast roots and had better access to the media centers in Bristol or NYC.
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With that argument... why would it be CT and not PA or FL or TX or OK or LA or NC?

It's 2014 you don't need physical access to anything.

I don't know how many people work at the AAC office, but why uproot all their lives and make them go through the hassle of moving for literally zero benefit beyond Pal and Pal types feeling better about the zip code.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
What does it tell you about the relevance of the media day location when the SEC holds their day in Nowhere, Alabama?
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Like I already said....it doesn't matter where the SEC has media days...they can have it on Waylon's scrotum and everyone would be happy to attend and it would get plenty of exposure.

Tuberville is right. And I hate the answer for why the offices are in RI...because the people are there? Can't get good people to work in the AAC in a city that is part of the conference footprint?

I know everyone wants to say "its just media days"..."it's just a mailing address"....to those people I think you are missing the big picture. UConn needs this conference to be somewhat respected or they will never get out. Crappy TV contracts and conference offices and media days outside of the conference footprint aren't exactly helping to build a quality brand.
 
noeynox said:
@WingU-Conn , the big east results on the field weren't bad 9-7 in bcs bowls with ucf's win last year. Much better than the acc's 5-13, record which includes two wins just last year. For whatever reason, results on the field or court have never mattered when it came to the big east, and I am sure it will be no different in this conference.
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There's more to it than the BCS bowl record, but when you get down to it, most of those BCS wins were between a few teams.....that all left the conference.

The record on the field may not change the perception, but it is far more important than the media days in late July.
 
Pudge said:
This is Palatine.



He is in a "media" related field. But ... I come back to watching this for 15 years: the MEDIA love Newport. They do. You get people going to the Big East Media Day because its in Newport & they like the lobster/clams. They like playing dinky golf & the atmosphere with these coaches.

I expect the "American" changes this ... but I think it makes sense to run these "Contra" Media events. Everyone of the others does a Florida thing (except the Chicago or SF). Newport has contrast and it sets the table. (as best as it could be)
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But only the media who are already following the teams go there. There is no opportunity ot break out. It is SMALL time. And it was only held there because of the Providence mafia that ran the BE delivering a beeny to their home state.

There is not a single good media driven reason to hold an event there.
 
WingU-Conn said:
There's more to it than the BCS bowl record, but when you get down to it, most of those BCS wins were between a few teams.....that all left the conference.

The record on the field may not change the perception, but it is far more important than the media days in late July.
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My point was, even when the big east was intact and winning bcs games, the talk was always that the big east wasn't worthy of bcs bid. You rarely heard that talk about the acc despite having a far inferior bcs bowl or record. The ESPN talking heads never took the acc to task like they did the big east and that helps shape public opinion. The popular narrative now is that any school worth anything was scooped up by an existing p5 league.
 
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The AAC is never going to be a brand. The AAC is never going to be anything beyond what it is.

CUSA existed for decades. It's conference USA plus UConn, Temple and Navy football.

The only thing to worry about is UConn and what UConn does. The country is never going to give a damn about the AAC.

Not a single school other than maybe East Carolina is the most popular school in their market. Some of them are probably 3rd, 4th and 5th. That isn't going to change.

LSU, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Penn St, Florida St, A&M, Ohio St, Mississippi, Oklahoma and others are always going to be more popular in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Memphis, Philadelphia, Orlando, Tampa, Tulsa and Cincinnati.

It's not going to change in our lifetimes. It's not worth worrying about or pretending that moving Media Day from Newport is going to change anything.
 
noeynox said:
My point was, even when the big east was intact and winning bcs games, the talk was always that the big east wasn't worthy of bcs bid. You rarely heard that talk about the acc despite having a far inferior bcs bowl or record. The ESPN talking heads never took the acc to task like they did the big east and that helps shape public opinion. The popular narrative now is that any school worth anything was scooped up by an existing p5 league.
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You can argue about this with yourself.

If you want to talk about the location of the media days on the perception of the league, let me know, otherwise I'm staying on topic.
 
Pudge said:
Tuberville is narrow-minded workaholic. (and like Palatine) He misses the bigger picture. Having continuity works ... at least at this moment. I can't imagine this being better in Memphis - yuck.
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It's not surprising that a place like Newport would be lost on a Tuberville. The use of forks, knives and spoons probably confuse the poor guy.

As it relates to Newport, wouldn't it be reasonable to see which media outlets are represented and what, if any, output they provide? We sometimes complain before we know what we're complaining about. If, for example, SNY, The New York Times and Boston Globe showed up in Newport, the AAC might have done UCONN a favor.

On my list of complaints about UCONN and the AAC, the location of Media Day is probably down around item (complaint) 150, or so.
 
Like Tuberville wants to be at Cincinnati long enough to go to a bunch of media days anyway.
 
whaler11 said:
Like Tuberville wants to be at Cincinnati long enough to go to a bunch of media days anyway.
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his wife's family is from there and they're not getting any younger. I think he stays til he retires.
 
whaler11 said:
With that argument... why would it be CT and not PA or FL or TX or OK or LA or NC?

It's 2014 you don't need physical access to anything.

I don't know how many people work at the AAC office, but why uproot all their lives and make them go through the hassle of moving for literally zero benefit beyond Pal and Pal types feeling better about the zip code.
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Reread the post Whaler. CT is uniquely situated. No other conference member's state is closer to NYC. No other member's state has the headquarters of ESPN located in it. (I suppose I should mention NBC Sports as well but...) Plus, I don't have a rooting interest in the economies of the states of any other AAC school. I do in Connecticut. That said, any of the conference member's states has a better claim that Rhode Island. We should move when it is fiscally convenient absent significant RI incentives to stay.
 
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