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[HuskyNan]

I like C. Clark, she is a scoring machine. But Swoopes, not my favorite person, has a point. The record is in 4 years not 6. If it is 6 put a huge * after it. The shame in Womens Basketball is: Top players (including DT) were/are beat up (UTenn did a job) Clark deserves credit for not slugging every person that elbows, bumps, pushes, hold, pulls her down.
I like evaluating banana's with banana's, to watermellons.
Paige and Kitley (VaTech) feel the wrath of player who can't compete with talent

“If you’re going to break a record, to me, if it’s legitimate, you have to break that record in the same amount of time that that player set it. Right. So, if Kelsey Plum set that record in four years, well, Caitlin should have broken that record in four years,” Swoope said. “But because there’s a COVID year, and then there’s another year, you know what I mean? She’s already had an extra year to break that record. So is it truly a broken record?”

Don’t worry Ms. Swoopes. Since you don’t know the answer, and didn’t bother doing a quick Google search before going off on your tangent, I’ll provide the answer. Caitlin Clark only just turned 22, and she’s only in her fourth year at Iowa. That’s the same four years that were afforded to Kelsey Plum when she set the record.

Swoops was wrong.

Social media cries foul on Sheryl Swoopes' misinformation campaign around Caitlin Clark

Social media made sure Sheryl Swoopes’ inaccurate remarks about Caitlin Clark and the all-time scoring record didn’t go unnoticed.

hawkeyeswire.usatoday.com

 

[The deacon]

A lot of people here are purists - they want aesthetically beautiful, below the rim basketball. They don’t like dunking (it’s showboating) or playing to the crowd. Most of these folks watched or played 40-50 years ago.

People need to understand that college basketball, like the NBA, is entertainment. Caitlin Clark has done something great while entertaining the fans. Those that don’t like it should go to TwitterX and see that women’s basketball is trending - everyone is talking about the record and women’s hoops. Viewership is up, attendance is up at all levels of women’s hoops and those fans aren’t going to see pretty passing, they want to be entertained. The UConn crowd below loved Paige’s fire and showmanship; they wouldn’t respond the same way for a nice pass.

While I’m at it, celebrating Caitlin does nothing to diminish UConn, it’s players, or it’s myriad accomplishments so I don’t get the classless clowns on Twitter that put Caitlin down. She’s been nothing but classy in every interview I’ve seen this year.

It's bizarre the hate she gets.

Caitlin Clark should be celebrated for her accomplishments and celebrated for bringing people to the game who never watched before.

Well said by both of you, SuperJohn and Nan.

One note I'd add to what I've written on other threads about Caitlin: her passing acumen is remarkable, as exciting or maybe even more so to me as any of her scoring exploits.

Jay Bilas wrote a piece for ESPN that's published today. I'd suggest you all read it. Here are two sentences that stand out to me as tribute to Caitlin Clark and her exceptional career:

'She is not the Pete Maravich or Steph Curry of women's basketball, she is a singular star in American culture, having cut her own trailblazing path along with the likes of Ann Meyers, Nancy Lieberman, Cynthia Cooper-Dyke and others.

'Appreciate her. Enjoy Caitlin Clark. Another might score more points in the future, but we will never see the likes of her again. Ever. She is -- and has been -- that significant to the game of basketball.'

 

[fomalhaut]

Speaking of records. Francis Marion is Division II but it’s still a record for all divisions

Interesting that Pearl Moore played there and Lauryn Taylor plays there now. Pretty remarkable accomplishments for one school.

 

[fomalhaut]

Swoopes' wild misinformation aside, I can't think why Clark shouldn't do well in the WNBA, considering probably the two most similar recent players, Plum and Ionescu, have.

 

[superjohn]

I like C. Clark, she is a scoring machine. But Swoopes, not my favorite person, has a point. The record is in 4 years not 6. If it is 6 put a huge * after it. The shame in Womens Basketball is: Top players (including DT) were/are beat up (UTenn did a job) Clark deserves credit for not slugging every person that elbows, bumps, pushes, hold, pulls her down.
I like evaluating banana's with banana's, to watermellons.
Paige and Kitley (VaTech) feel the wrath of player who can't compete with talent

Everything Sheryl Swoopes said about Clark is a lie. She said Clark is 25, Clark is 22. She said it took Clark 5 seasons and it should be a 4 year record. Clark is in her 4th season. She said Clark shoots it 40 times per game, she shoots it 20 times per game. Clark broke the record in way less games than it took Plum.

 

[cancontent]

Swoopes' wild misinformation aside, I can't think why Clark shouldn't do well in the WNBA, considering probably the two most similar recent players, Plum and Ionescu, have.

What I've noticed is there are two "camps" from what I've seen on social meida.

One camp believes she'll continue to do what she's doing now, upon arrival in the WNBA and don't take kindly to those who don't immediately agree.

The other believes she'll do well, but it will happen over time, similar to Ionescu and Plum. I'm of this mindset, myself. Let's see what happens when she does get there.

 

[fomalhaut]

What I've noticed is there are two "camps" from what I've seen on social meida.

One camp believes she'll continue to do what she's doing now, upon arrival in the WNBA and don't take kindly to those who don't immediately agree.

The other believes she'll do well, but it will happen over time, similar to Ionescu and Plum. I'm of this mindset, myself. Let's see what happens when she does get there.

Oh, I don't think she's going to score 30 points a game, but I think she'll be a very good player.

 

[cancontent]

Oh, I don't think she's going to score 30 points a game, but I think she'll be a very good player.

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And that's the point some have made but in how it's framed it didn't/doesn't come across that way. The problem is that some, like Swoopes, have used lazy and inaccurate talking points instead of actual facts.

Now mind you, there are those who plain just don't like her and it is what it is. No different than any sport where one person seems to dominate a la Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, LeBron James, etc. That's a part of sports that takes away from the fun of watching an unbelievable talent compete in my opinion.

 

[Puppy Love]

My guess is that she will be a good player but not a great one and that it will take time. In games where Iowa struggled this year, Caitlyn was the high scorer by a large margin. In games where Iowa wins, the scoring is much more evenly distributed. That could mean that the talent discrepancy between Caitlyn and the rest of the team is much bigger than I would suspect. It could also mean that she is not an effective point guard under pressure. Most teams in the WNBA are going to provide good competition so Caitlyn’s play may look more like the games where Iowa lost. The difference will be that WNBA players will expect for the ball to be shared and the scoring to be more evenly distributed. I don’t think they’re going to be willing to accept that one player should be taking a disproportionate number of the shots. We’re going to find out really quickly if she’s a good point guard if she has better teammates.

 

[cancontent]

My guess is that she will be a good player but not a great one and that it will take time. In games where Iowa struggled this year, Caitlyn was the high scorer by a large margin. In games where Iowa wins, the scoring is much more evenly distributed. That could mean that the talent discrepancy between Caitlyn and the rest of the team is much bigger than I would suspect. It could also mean that she is not an effective point guard under pressure. Most teams in the WNBA are going to provide good competition so Caitlyn’s play may look more like the games where Iowa lost. The difference will be that WNBA players will expect for the ball to be shared and the scoring to be more evenly distributed. I don’t think they’re going to be willing to accept that one player should be taking a disproportionate number of the shots. We’re going to find out really quickly if she’s a good point guard if she has better teammates.

Re shot selection, here's a rhetorical question. Why does it seem to some that Clark would expect to be taking that many shots at the next level?

The impression I get from her is that she'll play to whatever style the coach has in mind for their offence. It's more about the team who drafts her making sure she fits their system or they find ways to tweak it where it makes sense.

 

[VA Huskie]

I personally do not care for Caitlin Clark’s style of play. She is an amazing talent and obviously a prolific scorer. Not caring for her style of play is not ‘hating’, just a preference and opinion. I don’t think a ‘logo three’ is a good shot. Maybe end of game, shot clock winding down but not the first option. That’s my opinion. just because I can jack some shots up doesn’t mean they are the ‘best’ shots available. Maybe this is why some fans ‘hate’ on CC.

The growth in the women’s game is great. I just don’t lose sight of the history and impact and importance of educating people on this.

I think I read at some point that her shooting percentage for logo 3’s was higher than for other 3’s. So not necessarily a bad shot. I’d guess that typically she’s more open at the logo.