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cohenzone said:
What is especially hilarious is that except for fir Turner who everyone dumped on, nobody has seen any other QB including Roberson And JF made some really good throws that were not caught. He might not be the second coming, but he wasn’t nearly as horrible as some think against a good D. Give him a few games before jumping to conclusions. Ain’t a QB ever who didn’t make bad throws or pick the wrong target.
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Look, all I said was in my other post was, I hope Roberson gets some snaps in the next game, and people are making a federal case out of it.
 
Got it. Thank you. I don’t think one can assume from that that Roberson was any less physically ready on opening day than Fagnano was, but one is free to assume as they wish.
 
businesslawyer said:
Problem? A number of folks, including you, are hinting that Roberson isn’t 100% physically. I wasn’t trolling you — I just asked you or anyone else a question. You said you hoped he gets well soon. Do you have any reason to think he isn’t well, beyond that Fagnano wasn’t good enough on Thursday?
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Yes, I had heard some things. As I said, I hope he gets some snaps in the next game. I like Fagnano but he isn’t a dual threat, and he isn’t close to the athlete that Roberson is.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Yes, I had heard some things. As I said, I hope he gets some snaps in the next game. I like Fagnano but he isn’t a dual threat, and he isn’t close to the athlete that Roberson is.
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Looked damm good on that run he stepped out of bounds on. He is fast enough. We need to see the WRs gain some separation and catch the ball. The pass 50 yds downfield to Burns hit him in the pads between two defenders. Would have been a great catch, but one you have to make to pull an upset.
 
Do we know Roberson can throw? He can run which is what we needed...If Super Joe tucks the ball just a couple times and picks up a few first downs, I don't think everyone would be so critical of him.
Armstrong ( who had a lot of hype coming from Va and being paired back up with the O.C.) didn't look impressive throwing the ball. Horrible form...had about 80 yds going into the 4th qtr. He ran the ball great...but why we didn't spy him I'm not sure. 4th qtr when he ran it in...I counted 4 missed tackles. We played to be respectful not to win.
Maybe when they drop 8 and there is room for the QB to run, they should of brought in Roberson to keep them honest if Joe can't run.
 
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noeynox said:
Looked damm good on that run he stepped out of bounds on. He is fast enough. We need to see the WRs gain some separation and catch the ball. The pass 50 yds downfield to Burns hit him in the pads between two defenders. Would have been a great catch, but one you have to make to pull an upset.
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Spot on.
 
businesslawyer said:
Got it. Thank you. I don’t think one can assume from that that Roberson was any less physically ready on opening day than Fagnano was, but one is free to assume as they wish.
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Felix Unger disagrees with you on assuming. In a courtroom no less....

 
cohenzone said:
What is especially hilarious is that except for fir Turner who everyone dumped on, nobody has seen any other QB including Roberson And JF made some really good throws that were not caught. He might not be the second coming, but he wasn’t nearly as horrible as some think against a good D. Give him a few games before jumping to conclusions. Ain’t a QB ever who didn’t make bad throws or pick the wrong target.
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I agree 100% He was not terrible one bit. He looked a starting QB with some gitters, starting his first FBS game, at home, against a solid ACC defense. He really didn't make any horrible throws except his last one when they were all trying to force the ball down field. Can't fault him there. If anything, the play calling was conservative and I hope they open it up on Saturday. That will be his real test.
 
businesslawyer said:
Problem? A number of folks, including you, are hinting that Roberson isn’t 100% physically. I wasn’t trolling you — I just asked you or anyone else a question. You said you hoped he gets well soon. Do you have any reason to think he isn’t well, beyond that Fagnano wasn’t good enough on Thursday?
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Why does everyone think JF bore full responsibility? No he wasn't anything special. but it was hardly that awful against what issuppisedly a good D. Half this board wans to trash him after one game against maybe our second beat opponent. Maybe the same fans who were ready to dump Coach Hurley last January. Give him
A game or two more before reaching conclusions.
 
I thought JF looked good from what I saw considering his receivers dropped a lot of passes. The dropped pass right before the half was huge you have to make that catch.
 
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Pretty sure Roberson’s “arm” injury gave Fagnano the starting job. As I said in another thread, Charlton’s praise of Roberson two weeks ago was effusive. He basically said that you just can’t find a fault in his game. Up until I read those quotes, I had been predicting Fagnano would start since he’s a Charlton guy. After that, I thought it was pretty obvious Roberson was the man. Then he tweaked his arm and here we are.
 
cohenzone said:
Why does everyone think JF bore full responsibility? No he wasn't anything special. but it was hardly that awful against what issuppisedly a good D. Half this board wans to trash him after one game against maybe our second beat opponent. Maybe the same fans who were ready to dump Coach Hurley last January. Give him a
game or two more before reaching conclusions.
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Ok I’ll give you that. Let’s see how he does against Georgia State. He’s an ok passer, not great but I think he can get the job done. My criticism of the NC State game is his running ability, if all his receivers are covered he’s got to run with it, and except for that first series, he didn’t. He had 18 yards rushing for the game, almost all on the first series. We can’t beat a team like NC State if their defense knows he’s not much of a running threat.
 
cohenzone said:
What is especially hilarious is that except for fir Turner who everyone dumped on, nobody has seen any other QB including Roberson And JF made some really good throws that were not caught. He might not be the second coming, but he wasn’t nearly as horrible as some think against a good D. Give him a few games before jumping to conclusions. Ain’t a QB ever who didn’t make bad throws or pick the wrong target.
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They’re a really bad habit on the Boneyard to love the backup QB. That is until he plays…….
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Ok I’ll give you that. Let’s see how he does against Georgia State. He’s an ok passer, not great but I think he can get the job done. My criticism of the NC State game is his running ability, if all his receivers are covered he’s got to run with it, and except for that first series, he didn’t. He had 18 yards rushing for the game, almost all on the first series. We can’t beat a team like NC State if their defense knows he’s not much of a running threat.
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Thing is, he might never be a real running threat to where teams have to account for him. Some pretty great QBs fit that bill. The difference of course is that guys like Brady and Rodgers are great passers but also had receivers who get open. Turner seemed not quite as good a passer and not much more of a runner. Supposedly Roberson is a bit more of a dual threat but unless whatever his nick up is is enough to sideline him, the coaches must think JF is enough of a better passer to get the nod. Who knows if they have any intent to use the freshman.

One way or another, I would be surprised if this team often has an even run/pass ratio. Lots of good runners and I think most can catch a pass too. In a close game little things make a difference. JF threw a really good kinda deep sideline pass almost right in front of my section to Houston that was a foot long and Houston visibly slowed a bit for some reason. He catches that and it might have been a touchdown and everyone would be talking about what a great pass that was. My whole section noticed the slow down. Anyway, if he isn’t effective against what appears to be a weak Georgia State pass defense we have a problem.
 
businesslawyer said:
Got it. Thank you. I don’t think one can assume from that that Roberson was any less physically ready on opening day than Fagnano was, but one is free to assume as they wish.
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I agree but somewhere along the way recently I think Mora said Roberson had tweaked something. I’m not sure he ever said it was enough to keep him from playing. Kinda fun having a mystery miracle worker to tout even if the wizard’s curtain is never pulled back. Wouldn’t be the BY.
 
What did I miss about Roberson being injured? Mora said he tweaked his arm...didn't say what arm and it's only a tweak.
Mora also said Joe tweaked his calf....yet he played.
 
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Lippy1 said:
What did I miss about Roberson being injured? Mora said he tweaked his arm...didn't say what arm and it's only a tweak.
Mora also said Joe tweaked his calf....yet he played.
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Just speculation from some of us. I got the impression that Roberson was the leader a couple of weeks ago. Charlton was raving about him. Then we heard Roberson tweaked his arm and 48 hours later, Fagnano was named starter.
 
Would Roberson be listed as the backup if his arm was really injured badly enough to remove him from starting? I don’t think moving the announcement date means anything.
 
Charlton on Roberson two weeks ago:

“He’s an elite passer,” Charlton said. “He can throw the ball second to none. There are not many guys who have the arm talent that he has, especially in that he’s not a 6-4 quarterback. He has (running) skills. I think the game has slowed down quite a bit for him.”

Still, he appears to be ahead of where he was last year when he won the job.

“He’s beyond that, very clearly,” Charlton said. “He sees the game a lot faster now, he’s made a lot of progress in the passing game. He’s a student of the game. In terms of applying those meetings to the field, he’s made a tremendous jump. … I just think his passion for the game and his focus has gone up. You can feel that on the field.”
 
Hoophound said:
Charlton on Roberson two weeks ago:

“He’s an elite passer,” Charlton said. “He can throw the ball second to none. There are not many guys who have the arm talent that he has, especially in that he’s not a 6-4 quarterback. He has (running) skills. I think the game has slowed down quite a bit for him.”

Still, he appears to be ahead of where he was last year when he won the job.

“He’s beyond that, very clearly,” Charlton said. “He sees the game a lot faster now, he’s made a lot of progress in the passing game. He’s a student of the game. In terms of applying those meetings to the field, he’s made a tremendous jump. … I just think his passion for the game and his focus has gone up. You can feel that on the field.”
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These quotes are bizarre after the fact. Guess you really should never take coaches at face value.
 
Hoophound said:
Charlton on Roberson two weeks ago:

“He’s an elite passer,” Charlton said. “He can throw the ball second to none. There are not many guys who have the arm talent that he has, especially in that he’s not a 6-4 quarterback. He has (running) skills. I think the game has slowed down quite a bit for him.”

Still, he appears to be ahead of where he was last year when he won the job.

“He’s beyond that, very clearly,” Charlton said. “He sees the game a lot faster now, he’s made a lot of progress in the passing game. He’s a student of the game. In terms of applying those meetings to the field, he’s made a tremendous jump. … I just think his passion for the game and his focus has gone up. You can feel that on the field.”
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I would have gone with the only QB in the comp during this time that can throw.
 
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Hoophound said:
Charlton on Roberson two weeks ago:

“He’s an elite passer,” Charlton said. “He can throw the ball second to none. There are not many guys who have the arm talent that he has, especially in that he’s not a 6-4 quarterback. He has (running) skills. I think the game has slowed down quite a bit for him.”

Still, he appears to be ahead of where he was last year when he won the job.

“He’s beyond that, very clearly,” Charlton said. “He sees the game a lot faster now, he’s made a lot of progress in the passing game. He’s a student of the game. In terms of applying those meetings to the field, he’s made a tremendous jump. … I just think his passion for the game and his focus has gone up. You can feel that on the field.”
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Huskyforlife said:
Would Roberson be listed as the backup if his arm was really injured badly enough to remove him from starting? I don’t think moving the announcement date means anything.
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Here's my thought on it. Pure speculation.

Camp ended and all three QB's had some issues. ZT was clearly #3. Between Fagnano and Roberson it was whomever got healed first and could take snaps every day as they implemented and practiced game plan for NC St. Fagnano got healthy first.

I'm beginning to think there is the ole best ability is availability/dependability aspect to the QB room.

Coaches need to know their starter is available every day for game prep.

Pure speculation but there is a dissonance between Charlton's comments on the record about Roberson and Fagnano being named starter less than a week later.
 
UConn now has film on GAST. Didn’t really have for NCST whose offense probably resembled Cuse of last year. Hope they can adjust and succeed.
 
Bongo Fury said:
UConn now has film on GAST. Didn’t really have for NCST whose offense probably resembled Cuse of last year. Hope they can adjust and succeed.
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They had plenty of film of both NC St from last year and Syracuse from last year.
All the plays, formations and styles should have been easy to access and evaluate.
 
Speaking of, I don't know if they've been mentioned in this thread but neither of Uconn's former top WR's, Marion or Turner had killer games at their new schools. Keelan 1 catch / 3 yds, while AT was a little better @ 3 recs. for 14 yds. (but did have 1 TD of Cincy's 66 pts vs. an FCS team )
 
Hoophound said:
Charlton on Roberson two weeks ago:

“He’s an elite passer,” Charlton said. “He can throw the ball second to none. There are not many guys who have the arm talent that he has, especially in that he’s not a 6-4 quarterback. He has (running) skills. I think the game has slowed down quite a bit for him.”

Still, he appears to be ahead of where he was last year when he won the job.

“He’s beyond that, very clearly,” Charlton said. “He sees the game a lot faster now, he’s made a lot of progress in the passing game. He’s a student of the game. In terms of applying those meetings to the field, he’s made a tremendous jump. … I just think his passion for the game and his focus has gone up. You can feel that on the field.”
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Yea but at the same time both charlton and mora talked up all 3 guys quite a bit too.

And if we believe everything the coaches say Roberson barely beat out zion in camp last year so to say he’s beyond where he was isn’t necessarily raving about his performance.
 
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