The Wide Receivers

[CONN78SEJ]

Yea but at the same time both charlton and mora talked up all 3 guys quite a bit too.

And if we believe everything the coaches say Roberson barely beat out zion in camp last year so to say he’s beyond where he was isn’t necessarily raving about his performance.

My guess is they were puffing up Zion in comparison to Roberson. The kid was a 4 star recruit (ESPN and Rivals) coming out of high school in New Jersey. As a junior in New Jersey he ran for almost 1000 yards and threw for around 2500 yards. He was the 11th rated recruit in the state that year. He’s not the bum you’re trying to portray.

 

[kemba]

My guess is they were puffing up Zion in comparison to Roberson. The kid was a 4 star recruit (ESPN and Rivals) coming out of high school in New Jersey. As a junior in New Jersey he ran for almost 1000 yards and threw for around 2500 yards. He was the 11th rated recruit in the state that year. He’s not the bum you’re trying to portray.

I didn’t say he was a bum but what he did in high school isn’t relevant anymore.

They very well might have been puffing up zion but that’s my whole point they do that with all of them

 

[CONN78SEJ]

I didn’t say he was a bum but what he did in high school isn’t relevant anymore.

They very well might have been puffing up zion but that’s my whole point they do that with all of them

So when they say “Roberson barely beat out Zion last year”, I take that to mean they’re trying to infer that Zion might be pretty good too, so without it negatively reflecting on Roberson. Now the question is did they (all the coaches) actually believe that before the season started. When Roberson tore his ACL, they had to go with Zion anyway for the remainder of the season.

 

[Nostical]

Fagnano threw a long sideline pass right in front of my section to Houston that was a foot long and Houston visibly slowed a bit for some reason. He catches that and it might have been a touchdown and everyone would be talking about what a great pass that was.

It wasn‘t that Houston slowed. He and Brewton are simply too small to be huge targets on long sideline passes like that. He was fast enough, he needed to be taller. A receiver like Clercius stretches out and catches that ball. Houston (and Brewton) can’t.

 

[Chin Diesel]

It wasn‘t that Houston slowed. He and Brewton are simply too small to be huge targets on long sideline passes like that. He was fast enough, he needed to be taller. A receiver like Clercius stretches out and catches that ball. Houston (and Brewton) can’t.

It's two sides of the same coin. There's no guarantee a larger Clercius has the speed to get open to make that catch.

Fagnano needs to make that pass to the player running that route. Pass was 2 feet too far. Whether you want to blame that on the reciver being too small or blame Fagnano for not putting a bit more air under the pass doesn't change the fact that pass was too far in front of the receiver.

 

[cohenzone]

It wasn‘t that Houston slowed. He and Brewton are simply too small to be huge targets on long sideline passes like that. He was fast enough, he needed to be taller. A receiver like Clercius stretches out and catches that ball. Houston (and Brewton) can’t.

He slowed. Everyone in my section which is right above where he was noticed it. He didn’t stop, he sort of slightly broke stride. Would another 6 inches in height have allowed him to catch it anyway? We will never know. Height helps for sure but he had his guy beaten. One way ir another, there was nothing wrong with the pass.

 

[Nostical]

It's two sides of the same coin.

Not really. We need to be realistic not romantic. JF just isn’t that precise on longer passes. And the four best NC St DB’s are 6’0, 6’3, 6’0 and 6’2. Houston is 5’9’, Brewton is 5’6. Targeting a bigger receiver who can “go get“ a ball that’s thrown a bit too far—or a bit too high— is infinitely smarter than trying to precisely hit a smaller target who’s defended by a bigger DB a long way downfield. Receivers like Houston and Brewton are better equipped for screens.

 

[cohenzone]

It's two sides of the same coin. There's no guarantee a larger Clercius has the speed to get open to make that catch.

Fagnano needs to make that pass to the player running that route. Pass was 2 feet too far. Whether you want to blame that on the reciver being too small or blame Fagnano for not putting a bit more air under the pass doesn't change the fact that pass was too far in front of the receiver.

I don’t know about you, but my section had a great view of that play from above. It was not a bad pass. Blaming a QB for a fairly long pass being at worst marginally too far when it’s at least debatable if it really was too far or the receiver slowed slightly is nitpicky. Of all the passes that day, that one is tough to be critical of. Laughy face or not. Happy Labor Day.

 

[Nostical]

Blaming a QB for a fairly long pass being at worst marginally too far when it’s at least debatable if it really was too far or the receiver slowed slightly is nitpicky.

I’m not blaming the QB. The pass was not that far off. I blame the scheme that has small sized Devonte Houston going against a much bigger DB when a bigger receiver likely had a better shot at reaching it. Speed is one thing but size does matter.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

He was gashing them then immediately went 3 short pass plays that didn’t work and punted, wanted to pull my hair out.

Exactly - that's when they should've run a couple deeper pass routes, sigh.