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Dove said:
I watched maybe half of Talking Dead...if Glenn's face wasn't shown during the Memorium then...
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Glenn !!
 
Dove said:
Glenn !!
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I expected that (as did a million other viewers), but given the number of zombies surrounding him, even the few feet he had to crawl was plenty of exposure to get eaten, plus there was no distraction noted in the plot to get the zombies to disperse. They've shown they'll wait around for a looooong time to eat. If a crowd of them can knock over a tower, surely they can move a dumpster.

Not that there aren't plenty of other plot holes, but still, a pretty weak out.
 
storrsroars said:
I expected that (as did a million other viewers), but given the number of zombies surrounding him, even the few feet he had to crawl was plenty of exposure to get eaten, plus there was no distraction noted in the plot to get the zombies to disperse. They've shown they'll wait around for a looooong time to eat. If a crowd of them can knock over a tower, surely they can move a dumpster.

Not that there aren't plenty of other plot holes, but still, a pretty weak out.
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Agreed. Glad he's still alive. Not real happy with how they did it. I thought it was a cool, ballsy way to take out a character unexpected.

Listening to the Talking Dead I understand what they were going for, they wanted the audience to experience the unknown like the characters do when someone goes out on a run. If they don't come back you (they) don't know if they are alive or dead or zombified or eaten or what. Leaves you (them) anxious and unknowing.

But I still think it was pretty weak way out. (although the new angles on the filming made it a little more palpable.)

I was right in that Enid would find him though. :D Just though she'd find him dead. :oops:
 
Glenn being alive didn't surprise me, but I almost hoped he was dead. I like the character, but that was a bush league move by the show. They spent more time and dramatic music during the original scene then showing his escape. What's next? The whole world was just in the imagination of an autistic boy and his snow globe?

I haven't watched Talking Dead yet, but meyers7's explanation makes me feel a bit better. I do think they could've done that better. Just don't show Glenn and Nicholas. Michonne's crew comes back and tells everyone they got separated from Glenn and Nicholas and that the herd overran the town. Let that linger and maybe find some clues (like the watch and a zombie Nicholas) to make everyone (viewers and characters) worry more. That's the anxiety... not showing him screaming and appearing to be torn apart.

Throughout the episode, we thought Glenn was going die some other way, which would've been in line with the rest of the episode... just when you start to get comfortable (the walls are holding, we see some balloons, all is good), all hell breaks loose.
 
Chuck said:
Throughout the episode, we thought Glenn was going die some other way, which would've been in line with the rest of the episode... just when you start to get comfortable (the walls are holding, we see some balloons, all is good), all hell breaks loose.
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I have no doubt Glenn is a "dead man walking" now. Since they've "saved" him, he's doomed to die....soon.
 
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meyers7 said:
Agreed. Glad he's still alive. Not real happy with how they did it. I thought it was a cool, ballsy way to take out a character unexpected.

Listening to the Talking Dead I understand what they were going for, they wanted the audience to experience the unknown like the characters do when someone goes out on a run. If they don't come back you (they) don't know if they are alive or dead or zombified or eaten or what. Leaves you (them) anxious and unknowing.
:oops:
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Talking Dead shouldn't matter, you should never need a show to explain a show. It should all be on-screen and if most viewers didn't like it or experience it the way they intended, then they screwed up.

Last night was a horror show, only positive is it was a setup for mid-season finale (is that next?):
1. Glen's escape (they undid their own drama with the stupid post-show & typical character death rituals by not acting as if he was dead) & chasing Enid. He saves others (its for Maggie, its for me)- we get it
2. Umpteenth Glen death troll of their audience by Enid pointing gun at Glen's head then commercial. Glen is dying as soon as Maggie spots him, to me this is now move obvious (99%) & inevitable then Glen's non-death death. 1% chance they kill Maggie instead IF they realize they wrote themselves another plot roadblock with Maggie's pregnancy.
3. Spencer does this stupid high wire act all on his own without consulting anyone, how can Rick be in charge and permit this and if her own son doesn't listen how can Deanna possibly have any authority? AND then she backs her son's reckless gambit?!
4. Deanna hands Rick & Michonne the ridiculous plans, clearly only to be used as pathos in later episodes 'oh what could have been'.
5. Our most savvy survivors Rick & Carl teach the sullen kid who clearly wants to kill them how to shoot. Puhlease.
6. That nitwit is still in charge of guns & canned vegetables. Really no lock & key?!
7. Walls can stop a semi-truck but turn to aluminum foil versus tall building of rotting kindling?!
Wasn't Mr. Deanna teaching architectural class a week or so ago?! He builds part of the wall right next to a tower?!
8. The one cool moment was the balloons & everyone being happy, but then they immediately break the literal wall. I think this essentially describes how Kirkman runs his show & his worldview, namely; "We are all going to die and there is no point, because I was a teenage depressed & lonely geek that was forced to believe everything is futile I want to repeatedly punish the world with this point over and over and over and over."
 
meyers7 said:
I have no doubt Glenn is a "dead man walking" now. Since they've "saved" him, he's doomed to die....soon.
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My thoughts exactly! Fans seemed to see right through Glenn's "death" at the dumpster, the writers string us along for a few episodes and everybody breathes a sigh of relief... setting up the coup de grace.

Or maybe it'll be Sasha or Abraham or (eek) Daryl...
 
storrsroars said:
I expected that (as did a million other viewers), but given the number of zombies surrounding him, even the few feet he had to crawl was plenty of exposure to get eaten, plus there was no distraction noted in the plot to get the zombies to disperse. They've shown they'll wait around for a looooong time to eat. If a crowd of them can knock over a tower, surely they can move a dumpster.

Not that there aren't plenty of other plot holes, but still, a pretty weak out.
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I like Glenn, but I'd preferred if he died. It would add significant pathos and make the show more dramatic.

I need to see some of the core fall to make me actually fear for their lives.
 
Chuck said:
Glenn being alive didn't surprise me, but I almost hoped he was dead. I like the character, but that was a bush league move by the show. They spent more time and dramatic music during the original scene then showing his escape. What's next? The whole world was just in the imagination of an autistic boy and his snow globe?

I haven't watched Talking Dead yet, but meyers7's explanation makes me feel a bit better. I do think they could've done that better. Just don't show Glenn and Nicholas. Michonne's crew comes back and tells everyone they got separated from Glenn and Nicholas and that the herd overran the town. Let that linger and maybe find some clues (like the watch and a zombie Nicholas) to make everyone (viewers and characters) worry more. That's the anxiety... not showing him screaming and appearing to be torn apart.

Throughout the episode, we thought Glenn was going die some other way, which would've been in line with the rest of the episode... just when you start to get comfortable (the walls are holding, we see some balloons, all is good), all hell breaks loose.
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Or don't go back to Glenn until next year. That is anxiety.
 
meyers7 said:
I have no doubt Glenn is a "dead man walking" now. Since they've "saved" him, he's doomed to die....soon.
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Spoiler (read no further if you haven't seen the last episode):



I think it would be interesting for Glenn and the rest outside to save the people being over run inside... Only to have Maggie have been bitten during the battle. That would be dramatic.

Also, you know everything is going to be fine, because Abraham is going to come back and unleash destruction with his newly acquired rocket launcher.
 
Dogdeacon said:
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3. Spencer does this stupid high wire act all on his own without consulting anyone, how can Rick be in charge and permit this and if her own son doesn't listen how can Deanna possibly have any authority? AND then she backs her son's reckless gambit?!
4. Deanna hands Rick & Michonne the ridiculous plans, clearly only to be used as pathos in later episodes 'oh what could have been'.
5. Our most savvy survivors Rick & Carl teach the sullen kid who clearly wants to kill them how to s
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Spencer is dangerous and is a serious risk to all the survivors. New Rick would have recognized this and accidentally let him fall to protect the group.

Hopefully the stupid plan scene portends Deanna's death, because she's annoying.

One correction: I don't find Carl savvy at all. He's like a 10 year old in a 15 year olds body.
 
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intlzncster said:
I like Glenn, but I'd preferred if he died. It would add significant pathos and make the show more dramatic.

I need to see some of the core fall to make me actually fear for their lives.
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Agreed completely. I thought they had done a great job with his death. Sudden, unexpected, dumb mistakes, trusting the wrong person, can happen to anybody at any time......But then they backed out of it. :mad:

However, I do like his character AND it's nice to have a "nice guy" NOT get killed (see Hershal, Tyreese, Bob, etc.). Don't really like what they did, but I'll give them this one. Hopefully they make up for it.
 
meyers7 said:
Agreed completely. I thought they had done a great job with his death. Sudden, unexpected, dumb mistakes, trusting the wrong person, can happen to anybody at any time.But then they backed out of it. :mad:

However, I do like his character AND it's nice to have a "nice guy" NOT get killed (see Hershal, Tyreese, Bob, etc.). Don't really like what they did, but I'll give them this one. Hopefully they make up for it.
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Yep, the show started off well when Shane was killed. The Shane/Rick/Carl dynamic was great.
 
intlzncster said:
I like Glenn, but I'd preferred if he died. It would add significant pathos and make the show more dramatic.
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If he dies it would be so traumatic to Maggie that she would kill herself. She lost her momma, poppa and sister. Add Glenn and she would shoot herself and the thus her baby, too.
intlzncster said:
Or don't go back to Glenn until next year. That is anxiety.
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The producer/directors snipped the anxiety factor by issuing a statement on Talking Dead by stating we would see Glenn again in some way again. They should have just left us hanging. But my point that he was not shown for In Memoriums was telling.
 
Dove said:
The producer/directors snipped the anxiety factor by issuing a statement on Talking Dead by stating we would see Glenn again in some way again. They should have just left us hanging. But my point that he was not shown for In Memoriums was telling.
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That's ridiculous. What a waste. That part of the show is so lame. They should just put out some blog posts with all the interesting factoids, and don't reveal anything.
 
meyers7 said:
I have no doubt Glenn is a "dead man walking" now. Since they've "saved" him, he's doomed to die....soon.
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I don't know. We know Glenn dies in the source material, but the show hasn't been, and doesn't have to be, 100% faithful to that. To tease his death, make the audience wait through 3 episodes to find out he's not really dead, and then kill sometime during the second half of this season would be pretty weak. Not saying they won't do it, but teasing it now will lessen the impact when it actually does happen.

Something from a couple weeks back that bugged me: Michonne and a few Alexandrians are trying to make it back to safety. They're climbing the fence and one of the guys gets pulled back by the walkers and eaten. Michonne and the others stand on the safe side of the fence and watch, horrified. - Why didn't anyone help the poor guy by killing? He's going to die anyway. Why watch him suffer through being chewed on? Stab or shoot him in the head, grab his note to his wife and get moving.
 
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StoweD210 said:
I don't know. We know Glenn dies in the source material, but the show hasn't been, and doesn't have to be, 100% faithful to that. To tease his death, make the audience wait through 3 episodes to find out he's not really dead, and then kill sometime during the second half of this season would be pretty weak. Not saying they won't do it, but teasing it now will lessen the impact when it actually does happen.

Something from a couple weeks back that bugged me: Michonne and a few Alexandrians are trying to make it back to safety. They're climbing the fence and one of the guys gets pulled back by the walkers and eaten. Michonne and the others stand on the safe side of the fence and watch, horrified. - Why didn't anyone help the poor guy by killing? He's going to die anyway. Why watch him suffer through being chewed on? Stab or shoot him in the head, grab his note to his wife and get moving.
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The show is often just stupidly written, so as always anything like that which puts a little more gore on the screen is acceptable. Gore > logic, common sense etc..
But they are still dumb even when not for violence/action/gore. Last episode Glen is yelling to Enid. Enid chooses to run away RIGHT after Glen asks, 'Is Maggie OK?' just because they need Glen to chase her. They are simply too dense to come up with an actual reason for him to go after her although they compound the audience's pain with stupid ongoing dialogue about saving Enid being what Maggie would have wanted after Glen catches up to Enid.

I'm willing to tolerate all of this and stop whining as long as there is a chance Maggie's baby is a still-born zombie baby and eats her.
 
Dogdeacon said:
I'm willing to tolerate all of this and stop whining as long as there is a chance Maggie's baby is a still-born zombie baby and eats her.
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If this happens, I'm all in. All in.
 
Dogdeacon said:
4. Deanna hands Rick & Michonne the ridiculous plans, clearly only to be used as pathos in later episodes 'oh what could have been'.
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Every time I see those plans I laugh a bit. Definitely takes a genius leader-type to scribble "Crops" on a couple different areas of a map. What would they have done without her?
 
Tommyboy said:
Every time I see those plans I laugh a bit. Definitely takes a genius leader-type to scribble "Crops" on a couple different areas of a map. What would they have done without her?
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It was like a fourth grader's drawings. Also, why didn't the architect/engineer guy design the plans? Is that too much common sense?
 
Tommyboy said:
Every time I see those plans I laugh a bit. Definitely takes a genius leader-type to scribble "Crops" on a couple different areas of a map. What would they have done without her?
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I'm thinking they are trying to show she's not altogether there right now. Did you see the look on Michonne's face when she opened the plans up and looked at them. Kind of a "WTF? Rick, I think we have a problem" look.
 
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meyers7 said:
I'm thinking they are trying to show she's not altogether there right now. Did you see the look on Michonne's face when she opened the plans up and looked at them. Kind of a "WTF? Rick, I think we have a problem" look.
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Not sure on that one. Think you're giving the writers too much credit there.
 
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Tommyboy said:
Not sure on that one. Think you're giving the writers too much credit there.
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Agree, that would mean they are making a point with subtlety. If they wanted to show her losing her grip the plans could have featured stick figures of her lost loved ones screaming HELP or maybe painting bodies on trees to use the Zombies to clear a forest.
 
Dogdeacon said:
Agree, that would mean they are making a point with subtlety. If they wanted to show her losing her grip the plans could have featured stick figures of her lost loved ones screaming HELP or maybe painting bodies on trees to use the Zombies to clear a forest.
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Or sitting in the dark by herself, with a blank stare and drinking whiskey straight from the bottle.
 
Tommyboy said:
Not sure on that one. Think you're giving the writers too much credit there.
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They put all kinds of little things in there. They're sneaky little devils sometimes.
 
Thought the season started great. Then they pulled the jump the shark episode with Carl. Then this horrible midseason finale. Ugh.
 
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