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UCweCONN said:
I started a thread a couple of months back that showed how our program is in decline and I stand by that.
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You stand by a statement that said a team will be in decline from having won it all? Wow. You're a regular Nostradamus...
 
Let me go on record by saying the Giants will likely not repeat as the NFL champs next year. There. I said it. If it happens, I'm a genius...
 
UCweCONN said:
I disagree. Not giving the due credit for the Kemba ride last year would be a stupid post. I started a thread a couple of months back that showed how our program is in decline and I stand by that. I love people that cling to that crazy run last season as a sign of the health of the program. To me, those are stupid posts.
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Thank you. I've been saying the same and it's a hard argument to win but aside from a crazy 11 game stretch largely dominated by one player it's been a rough 3 years.
 
benjordan said:
Thank you. I've been saying the same and it's a hard argument to win but aside from a crazy 11 game stretch largely dominated by one player it's been a rough 3 years.
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I dunno ... that's doomsday crap to me.

09-10 felt like an aberration.

Last year wasn't just an 11 game stretch ... they dominated OOC. Struggled for a stretch while the pups figured out their role in the system.

This year the expectations were just too high. Unbelievably young team that lost its clear leader and didn't establish one early enough.
 
benjordan said:
Thank you. I've been saying the same and it's a hard argument to win but aside from a crazy 11 game stretch largely dominated by one player it's been a rough 3 years.
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You mean it's been a rough 3 years after our Final Four appearance? A rough 3 years despite winning a Championship during those 3 years?

There might be a reason that's a hard argument to win.
 
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The Boneyard is very entertaining after a disappointing loss. It's always the same thing.

1/2 of the posters start threads and critize players and question their heart.

then the other 1/2 of posters calling out the people who are critizing the team/players and how "entitled" they think the are.


Guess what? People react differently when frustrated. If they want to be critical about their team and vent their frustrations how things went, then who gives a S*hit
 
UofCT2009 said:
What's wrong with having high expectations and being disappointed when the team fails? What is wrong with getting on a player when he shows no heart and no sense of urgency in a tournament game?
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I don't get this 'no heart' thing. Did this team have no heart last season? Or did it magically go away?
 
TopDog18 said:
The Boneyard is very entertaining after a disappointing loss. It's always the same thing.

1/2 of the posters start threads and critize players and question their heart.

then the other 1/2 of posters calling out the people who are critizing the team/players and how "entitled" they think the are.


Guess what? People react differently when frustrated. If they want to be critical about their team and vent their frustrations how things went, then who gives a S*hit
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A: The other 1/2.
 
Marty Jackson said:
I'm pretty sure Dyson and Sticks took the same amount of crap that Drummond and Lamb are going to take. Only difference is that Lamb and Drummond could be potential lottery picks.
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Exactly. A team coming off a national championship that returns every key player exept one (completely irreplaceable player) and has 2 lottery picks should do better than get completely blown out in the first round of the tournament.
 
Most of the people who are criticizing the "entitlement" are criticizing the people who are bitching about the players themselves. How they suck or how they should leave. They aren't being "critical about their team"....they're just being babies.
 
zls44 said:
When you argument is built on a foundation of "excluding the National Championship last year" it's a STUPID ARGUMENT.
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This is it. "Well, sure they won a national championship last year ..." No. National titles are never a "yeah, but."
This year was awful in a lot of ways. In the scheme of things, it happens. You think Kansas and Kentucky wouldn't kill for a "yeah, but" national title?
 
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Inyatkin said:
This is it. "Well, sure they won a national championship last year ..." No. National titles are never a "yeah, but."
This year was awful in a lot of ways. In the scheme of things, it happens. You think Kansas and Kentucky wouldn't kill for a "yeah, but" national title?
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Kentucky's been in the NCAA's the last three years and would trade places with UConn in a nanosecond.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Most of the people who are criticizing the "entitlement" are criticizing the people who are bitching about the players themselves. How they suck or how they should leave. They aren't being "critical about their team"....they're just being babies.
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Exactly. I don't think people ate understanding.

The team played poorly. They played poorly often. Some players more than others. We're all likely disappointed.

But there's a difference between that and just straight up being a .
 
Rico444 said:
I don't get this 'no heart' thing. Did this team have no heart last season? Or did it magically go away?
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The team last year didnt come out in the tournament and walk around for 15 minutes. We didnt move faster than a jog until five minutes to go in the first half. Not sure if its no heart but it certaily is a lack of focus or whatever you want to call it. This team just played relaxed all year. I think thats the best way to describe it. Its not a fantasy. This happened.
 
I read on CBS Sports that since the inception of the 64+ team tourney field, only Dook has been more successful than Uconn. 48 tourney wins, 3 National titles and 4 Final Fours. They also mentioned that no team other than Butler has performed better in terms of its seeding among teams with 10 or more appearances over that stretch. The facts are the facts though many here don't like to see that.
 
TopDog18 said:
The Boneyard is very entertaining after a disappointing loss. It's always the same thing.

1/2 of the posters start threads and critize players and question their heart.

then the other 1/2 of posters calling out the people who are critizing the team/players and how "entitled" they think the are.


Guess what? People react differently when frustrated. If they want to be critical about their team and vent their frustrations how things went, then who gives a S*hit
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False equivalence, no?

2/2 of the fan base is upset that the team lost.

1/2 of the fan base is upset that they lost, and when critical of the team and coaching, looks at plays or moments or whatever, and criticizes the plays.

1/2 of the fan base starts calling out the character of kids on the team, kids they've never met and know little-to-nothing about, in a public space, where all can read.

Look, we all vent. Some of the things posted here are things we've probably all yelled at a TV screen. But it's a private moment; upon reflection we know a lot of this is not accurate or is over the top. Making it public is a problem. You're venting to people you don't know for what reason? To hear yourself bitch? At least when the first 1/2 talks about plays, they can get feedback, reflections, all the things that a community gets together for.

Most ironically, when a good kid like Tyler Olander uses social media (and a message board is a form of this) to publicly call out the fans the way many of them have publicly called him out, these same fans get all pissy about saying things in public. The only difference is that he has a name attached and they're anonymous. Frankly, I have more respect for the kid with his name on the line.

And, of course, Tyler O was right. So many of the people in this public forum--forums we know in the past have been read by coaches, players, journalists, etc.--are fake fans.
 
Would you rather make the tourney every year and flame out in the sweet sixteen every year, or have these results over a 4 year stretch: final four, nit appearance, national championship, early exit from NCAA tourney?

I'll take the latter. Why some others of you wouldn't is just something I don't understand.
 
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specialisthusky said:
Ucon isn't Duke UNC UK or KU in my opinion. Maybe we will get there some day. There is a major difference in recruiting with those programs. We get great kids and JC usually maximizes there potential but if you look on a list of most McDonald's All Americans you will find those 4 at the top and UConn nowhere near it.

We had a young team that couldn't figure "it" out this year. That does not mean next year they won't be right back to the level of those 4 teams you mentioned but for us to expect to a "blue blood" we have more work to be done.
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And hopefully we never will be (excluding Kansas) Duke and UNC are far and away the best teams in a weak ACC. An ACC so weak, they had to take two of the BE better programs. Too top it off both those teams (especially Duke) are given home games in the first two rounds of the NCAAs so they get extra help to succeed. Kentucky has eschewed every last bit of integrity in an effort to give Calipari a championship. Let UConn be UConn. That's good enough for me.
 
UCweCONN said:
I disagree. Not giving the due credit for the Kemba ride last year would be a stupid post. I started a thread a couple of months back that showed how our program is in decline and I stand by that. I love people that cling to that crazy run last season as a sign of the health of the program. To me, those are stupid posts.
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I just love this post. You would need a shoehorn to fit any more idiocy onto this board, so it's really hard for a single post to really make an impression, and then you just come up with a masterpiece and you make it look so easy. You "showed how are program is in decline"! Outstanding!

"In my study empirically demonstrating UConn's decline, I controlled for variables that might mask actual decline, for example MAKING THE FINAL FOUR TWICE IN THREE YEARS AND WINNING THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, which some stupid people will misread based on a mistaken notion that ACHIEVING THOSE THINGS ARE THE WHOLE goshdarn POINT OF THE ENTERPRISE. I would like to thank my Uncle Larry (institutionalzed =/= crazy), the guy with the eyepatch at the package store and my dog Nantambu, whose valuable contributions helped make this study impenetrable."
 
zls44 said:
Two FF's and a title in three years. But trash everyone and tell them to get out. SMH.
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This team is a testimony to Kemba. Last year would have been the same or worse without him. This year is proof of that. I really like winning; and, no, we have no right to expect to win everything all of the time. I would guess that most fans are disappointed because, very often(and rebounding stats are a glaring example as was Jeremy's frequent disappearing act), the effort and desire just didn't seem to be there right from the opening tip.

I actually find all this talk about him and Andre being lottery pick rather nauseating. Any GM who drafts them is nuts. One is 3-4 years, at minimum, away from being a contributor; and the other,because of his personality and disposition, can be defended completely out of games with little or no effort at all. The best thing this team could do(NCAA sanctions aside) is to stay together and come back. Show the fans they've got the same backbone as their coach. I agree that this group is extremely likable; but I'm sure they would prefer to be remembered by the fans for more than that.
When I think of last year's Big East and National Championships I don't see them as real "team" wins as I would with so many other teams in the history of this great program. This season certainly underscored that.

GO HUSKIES!!!
 
not sure what a fake fan is... It's only natural that some people are a--holes. That doesn't change when you are on a chat board.
I don't think personal attacks are necessary, nor does questioning one's character after a tough loss become a right. But certainly, commenting on the teams demeanor, the coaches decisions, or the level of effort exhibited are and should be open for discussion.
It's a double-edge sword. You want to play in front of a crowd, and you want to play for a team that has a following. That's Uconn. That comes with expectations and preasure worthy of the best bb program in college. If you want to play for an empty gymnasium and not be part of the discussion play for BC.
 
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I don't know if UNC or Kentucky debates whether they're blue-blood programs or not. I'm not sure why it's a debate on this board whether Uconn is.
We've won 3 National Championships since 1999 and continue to supply the NBA with superstars.
One NC could be considered a fluke. Twice is harder to ignore. But 3 NC's means we've arrived as one of the top programs. Maybe we as fans won't appreciate this because we're still in the middle of Calhoun's run. But look at some other program's history. They look back at one Sweet 16 or Final 4's appearance like the ultimate culimination of a programs success.
We have 3 National Championships!!! And we won the NC last year, not 30 years ago. And we have the nuclues to put together another deep run in the next year or two.
 
specialisthusky said:
Ucon isn't Duke UNC UK or KU in my opinion. Maybe we will get there some day. There is a major difference in recruiting with those programs. We get great kids and JC usually maximizes there potential but if you look on a list of most McDonald's All Americans you will find those 4 at the top and UConn nowhere near it.

We had a young team that couldn't figure "it" out this year. That does not mean next year they won't be right back to the level of those 4 teams you mentioned but for us to expect to a "blue blood" we have more work to be done.
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Not to pick nits, but it might actually surprise you that Kansas has no McDonald's All-Americans on their roster this year. The team Kansas will be facing in the first round (and I refuse to call this the second round) has one.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
If we're truly a blue blood, two years out of 3 without NCAAT wins, even if they come after a Final Four and sandwiched around a championship, is not good enough.

If we don't have these expectations, we're no better than Cincy or Texas.

That said, some of these posts have been ridiculous.
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This is one of the most illogical posts I've ever seen on this board. Of course this season wasn't good enough considering the talent level of this team, but to mention UConn in the same sentence as Cincy and Texas is just senseless. I understand you're only talking about expectations, but if you are unwilling to accept the disappointing seasons with the great ones, maybe your expectations are out of touch.
 
champs99and04 said:
This is one of the most illogical posts I've ever seen on this board. Of course this season wasn't good enough considering the talent level of this team, but to mention UConn in the same sentence as Cincy and Texas is just senseless. I understand you're only talking about expectations, but if you are unwilling to accept the disappointing seasons with the great ones, maybe your expectations are out of touch.
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My point was this:

If we consider ourselves fans of a blue blood program, our expectations should be higher than to be content with a 9-seed and a 1st-round exit.

If our expectations are such that we're content with a season like this, then our expectations are no different than those of fans from any other middle-of-the-road major conference team.

That's all I'm saying. If we're really a blue blood on par with the Dukes and Kentuckys of the world, then it's expected that our fan base should be upset about the season we've had.
 
Agree w/zls on this one. There is no doubt that this year was incredibly frustrating, but frustrating seasons happen. 2009 was great. 2010 was perhaps even more frustrating. 2011 was the most incredible March ride we will ever have as UConn fans. 2012 was perhaps the biggest let down.

No one is happy that they lost, but you can't always win and frankly if there is one lesson that UConn fans should have learned by now it is that the season after a national title is bound to be a disappointing one. I'll take the past 13 years, and so would every single school in the country.
 
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